[Rumor] Fisher: Kings “expected to gauge trade market” for DeMar DeRozan

dude12 said:
Teams that are or were in the playoffs absolutely will see him as a potential guy to help get them deeper in the playoffs. Several teams who did not have another scorer to go with what they already have will be able to make a solid offer. Teams getting close minded about getting team to the next level in playoffs is not what they will do, they will see an opportunity with DDR who has a decent salary for a walking bucket clutch guy. I can see DDR bringing back role players and possibly a late first. Depends on what’s being given up in regards to the pick. Jacquez out of the rotation. Detroit has some pieces they could deal. Houston has so many guys that Cam and Sheppard didn’t get off the bench in playoffs. Etc, etc
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Some think we could get PJ Washington and Gafford that’s has zero chance of happening
ESP47 said:
I think we're wildly overrating what DDR will bring back in a trade.

Prepare yourself for disappointment if you think we're going to get a first rounder or good players that fit.
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ESP47 said:
I think we're wildly overrating what DDR will bring back in a trade.

Prepare yourself for disappointment if you think we're going to get a first rounder or good players that fit.
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If we’re talking DDR alone and not packaged with other assets, I don’t think anyone’s expecting a lotto pick or a solid starter. But maybe a mid-late 1st or a fringe starter type of guy like a PJ Washington or Bobby Portis.
 
AaronPDX said:
Agree with you 100%. Also hope we are both 100% wrong 😂
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I'm in the same boat as you lol. I'm really hoping to be mildly surprised.

TheMobb said:
If we’re talking DDR alone and not packaged with other assets, I don’t think anyone’s expecting a lotto pick or a solid starter. But maybe a mid-late 1st or a fringe starter type of guy like a PJ Washington or Bobby Portis.
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I'd consider PJ Washington to be a solid starter but I don't think the Kings have any chance of landing him. Portis could maybe be a possibility since he's going to be 30 and has declined a hair. Might depend on what Giannis does. I'm just saying, prepare to be disappointed in what DDR will get us. He can still score but is old and has a lot of warts to his game. I'm not sure how he fits in with most teams. He's a little too good to be a sixth man but not good enough to deal with his warts as a starter. I haven't heard of any fans from other teams wanting to trade for him. I'm just preparing myself for a disappointing return. I'm thinking a LaRavia level player at best but we'll see.
 
I don’t think Dallas would have any interest in DDR……don’t see that. The teams that got bumped from the playoffs because a lack of a secondary scorer would be who I would contact.
 
ESP47 said:
I'm in the same boat as you lol. I'm really hoping to be mildly surprised.



I'd consider PJ Washington to be a solid starter but I don't think the Kings have any chance of landing him. Portis could maybe be a possibility since he's going to be 30 and has declined a hair. Might depend on what Giannis does. I'm just saying, prepare to be disappointed in what DDR will get us. He can still score but is old and has a lot of warts to his game. I'm not sure how he fits in with most teams. He's a little too good to be a sixth man but not good enough to deal with his warts as a starter. I haven't heard of any fans from other teams wanting to trade for him. I'm just preparing myself for a disappointing return. I'm thinking a LaRavia level player at best but we'll see.
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If Sac is going to do a reset but add length as Perry has said….and a PG, I can see DDR being dealt for a LaRavia type and maybe a late first or early second. Houston needs a good go to scorer after watching them vs GS. There are deals to be made with some teams. Perry should be all over those teams now.
 
dude12 said:
If Sac is going to do a reset but add length as Perry has said….and a PG, I can see DDR being dealt for a LaRavia type and maybe a late first or early second. Houston needs a good go to scorer after watching them vs GS. There are deals to be made with some teams. Perry should be all over those teams now.
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If Houston is interested, I'd be down for that for any of their young pieces
 
Tetsujin said:
Dallas doesn’t have enough for KD unless they move the first overall pick this season. That’s literally the one asset they have
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KD is an expiring he’ll go for cheap to the team he picks Gafford, Klay, Martin, and Washington matches his salary and is a good deal for a team that’s retooling
 
Tetsujin said:
The Suns aren’t trading KD without getting a single pick back.
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They can probably get a single fist but they’re not rebuilding getting Gafford and Washington for KD who will walk after the season is a great deal.

dude12 said:
If I’m SA, I’m all over a Giannis offer using 2nd pick and more draft capital and or Castle and matching salaries
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I saw on Reddit that it complicates how they build their team when they have to max out Fox and Giannis next year. Some are against trading for him
 
TheMobb said:
I hear you and I’m not disagreeing with any of this. I’m definitely not advocating for the team to trade all their picks to go for it now. I’ve heard from a few different media outlets that the year 2027 is when we see a lot of money come off the books and we’ll probably see a rebuild at that point. But until then I think we might see a middle ground and the team will try to compete for a playoff spot. We keep hearing about a PG, so I think there’s an internal belief that if Sabonis/LaVine/Keegan had a playmaker out there to set the table they can be an elite offense, and if we use say DeRozan, one or 2 of the exceptions and maybe 1-2 1sts and/or multiple 2nds to upgrade the PG spot and the team defensively the team could make some noise in the west. Then you have guys like Keegan, Devin Carter, Keon, LaRavia where we could see some internal growth. You look at the Pacers they added Siakam and saw some growth from their young guys (plus injuries to other teams at the perfect time) and are now in back to back ECF.
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That's fine and if they stay middle ground and run it back, develop the young guys, keep the cap flexible that's the way because a middle rung PG ain't doing anything that wasn't pretty much already right there, and it might be, we and they don't know yet. Initial results however? Murky. It's important for the Kings to take low risk and low cost swings right now if they take any. MLE level fit moves for depth is another thing that's a key contributing factor as to why this team has stagnated so often. Sign deals or trade for contracts that you KNOW you're getting that value of out of. This is why it was so crazy to me that they held onto Holmes after trading for Domas. No team had that kind of money sitting at backup C by choice. And there went another 1st rounder there. The trick is to simply look at the good franchises and copy them, lol. What does their cap look like, their construction.

And I disagree with their assessments about the PG spot but that's a different story based around Domas not being that "PG" and his value beyond that if he essentially isn't this teams Jokic Jr. Would a true PG help? Probably, but going out and getting a middling PG is probably leading to wins only if this team was already a playoff team. They might be, they might not be. If they want to fill the PG spot with actual money or value? They better be trading Monk IMO. Same deal with Holmes, that train would be coming. If Monk's not playing PG for the team what is he bringing with LaVine here? The Kings can't expect to get better defensively and not actually play the few defenders they have. If Monk ends up getting the short end that contract is going to be an issue if a short term move does look logical earlier than expected. The Kings have to stop stacking rosters from the bench and not expecting to eat it at some point. It's the same things hurting this franchise. They never develop their youth or clear a path for them and always stack paper teams from 6-13 and eat the cost. If they want to be the Spurs or Warriors? Start acting like it. They drafted and developed first and foremost. They didn't turn over first round talent like a second hand store. Sure both teams have done some of that and the Warriors fell in love with the prospects of having top picks when they shouldn't have and probably should have traded them but still. With what we are seeing out of the G league system and development coaching hopefully that has finally been corrected in Sacramento.
 
I'm fairly confident we'll get a useful asset for DDR. Coming off another good year and there were a ton of playoff teams that just simply lacked someone to get buckets. Magic, HOU, DAL, MIA, could all be very good fits.

Won't be some game-breaking player, but I'd be more surprised if it just ended up being a "cap dump" sort of scenario
 
dude12 said:
I mean, they have so many young guys who couldn’t get on the court in the GS series. Their window is kind of now. No one can tell me DDR wouldn’t have made a difference for them
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Yeah I don't think they'd trade Tari for him but Cam Whitmore possibly since he fell out of the rotation.
 
ESP47 said:
Yeah I don't think they'd trade Tari for him but Cam Whitmore possibly since he fell out of the rotation.
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Possibly, but they also just sort of have to make some decisions here. Green and Sengun are locked up, they have 2 more years of Brooks at 20mil-ish per. Amen is still 2 years out, but he's a rookie extension max waiting to happen.

I don't see how they afford to keep both Jabari and Tari long-term. I think it's a pretty reasonable idea to use one of them, who you probably can't pay anyway, to give yourself a better "win-now" window.
 
The_Jamal said:
Possibly, but they also just sort of have to make some decisions here. Green and Sengun are locked up, they have 2 more years of Brooks at 20mil-ish per. Amen is still 2 years out, but he's a rookie extension max waiting to happen.

I don't see how they afford to keep both Jabari and Tari long-term. I think it's a pretty reasonable idea to use one of them, who you probably can't pay anyway, to give yourself a better "win-now" window.
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They’re also hellbent on retaining Fred Van Vleet for some reason so they might be an apron team for the foreseeable future.

To me if I’m the Rockets, I’m keeping Jabari just because he’s a perfect fit next to Sengun as a low usage perimeter big who is also solid at the defensive stuff that Sengun is terrible at, but it’s hard to say that Eason isn’t going to be the better player over their careers.
 
ESP47 said:
Yeah I don't think they'd trade Tari for him but Cam Whitmore possibly since he fell out of the rotation.
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I don’t think they would straight up, but if they can’t afford to keep him packaging DeRozan plus a first round pick could be a deal that helps both teams. Gives the Rockets a guy that can get buckets and get to the line in the halfcourt and crunch time, plus the pick, gives the Kings an athletic plus sized forward to start with Domas and Keegan.
 
Tetsujin said:
They’re also hellbent on retaining Fred Van Vleet for some reason so they might be an apron team for the foreseeable future.

To me if I’m the Rockets, I’m keeping Jabari just because he’s a perfect fit next to Sengun as a low usage perimeter big who is also solid at the defensive stuff that Sengun is terrible at, but it’s hard to say that Eason isn’t going to be the better player over their careers.
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I mean, Tari is THE guy i'd want in the entire NBA to plug next to Domas (that's not like Giannis or AD). Just a break-out waiting to happen with what I think is All-defense type ceiling.

I'd happily attach draft picks to wrangle Tari from them with DDR. Simply couldn't ask for a more dynamic defensive trio (Keon/Tari/Keegan) to make LaVine/Domas work.
 
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