Fire Paul Westphal
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Maybe after the season, but he's currently an assistant coach, and as I've mentioned I can't remember an assistant coach abandoning his team midseason for another head coaching gig. Same goes for Frank.
Besides, those things are just wildcards. If we are going to make a midseason move to try to save things, and we don't just go with Elie and try to ride things out, I would think you go for an experienced coach, one fo the more established guys ont he market who will actually come, because you don't want to take a chance and have it go even worse. you want somebody who walks through the door with instant authority and experience on his dies, and can get everybody to buy in immediately.
Besides, those things are just wildcards. If we are going to make a midseason move to try to save things, and we don't just go with Elie and try to ride things out, I would think you go for an experienced coach, one fo the more established guys ont he market who will actually come, because you don't want to take a chance and have it go even worse. you want somebody who walks through the door with instant authority and experience on his dies, and can get everybody to buy in immediately.
The problem is that there is not many of those guys around (if any). There were a few during the off-season but they were all snatched up!
Unless of course Adelman gets the sack in Houston and even then, there is just too much hisotry for us to bring him back. I think he could do a lot of good things with this team. Offence would not be a problem and he has proven that he can have good defensive teams if he has the right personnel. As fluid as Westphal is with his rotations, Adelman is pretty fixed and very rarely does he go more than 9 deep. Its something that this team needs.
Again, chances of getting Adelman are non-existant.
Unless of course Adelman gets the sack in Houston and even then, there is just too much hisotry for us to bring him back. I think he could do a lot of good things with this team. Offence would not be a problem and he has proven that he can have good defensive teams if he has the right personnel. As fluid as Westphal is with his rotations, Adelman is pretty fixed and very rarely does he go more than 9 deep. Its something that this team needs.
Again, chances of getting Adelman are non-existant.
I hear Musselman from time-to-time on radio (national sports feed, ESPN or FOX) as an anoited "NBA expert." I've never understood how a person, no matter how many times fired, disgraced (such as DUI conviction or worse), obvious mediocre coaching talent at best - can endlessly get rewarded, praised, paid for their opinions, as some top expert on anything. Fools booking fools, arranged by booking agent fools it seems - ridiculous!
Big name coaches do not come into a hopeless sitution in middle of an NBA season, so you can forget JVG, Fratetto, Nellie, Silas, Mike Brown, etc. - just doesn't happen. With a lockout looming plus Maloof's apparent money problems, Kings are likely extremely limited in choices - if they were to make a head coaching change. The list would appear to be very small and likelihood of a change on a par with Kenny Natt debacle not something Malooff's want to revist. Make a list anyway if you like but names on it look about like this IMO: Mario Elie, John Wisenhunt, Bill Walton, Geoff Petrie, Kayte Christensen, Slamson.
I'm not a big Westphal supporter by any means, but I don't know what you guys were expecting this season. We were the worst team in the league two years ago and the third from the bottom last year. The only roster additions we made this season were Dalembert and Cousins, neither of whom is setting the world on fire right now. Our record right now is more a reflection of the lack of talent on this team than anything else.
If nothing else, this quote illustrates how important expectations are. Last year, Rambis was lampooned for burying Love and wasting his talent. No one expected much out of that team as a result. Now this year, Love is killing it and Rambis is a genius. I'd prefer to wait and see a bit more with Westphal... Evans might shake off his slump and Cousins could put it together and all of the sudden Westphal will be a genius too.
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I've never seen anything like this in my 25+ years of following NBA basketball. He's made more lineup and rotation changes than any coach in NBA history. He's taken Thompson, Greene, Casspi, and now Head from starters playing big minutes to DNP-CD's literally one game to the next. Only 1 player, Evans, has started every game he's played. It's ridiculous. He's turned them all into basket cases. They have lost faith in him and his stupid offensive and defensive schemes. Once that happens, it's time for a change...
(weak-*** smilies not withstanding)
I liked last nights starting lineup. And it played well together. Actually looked like a team. What I don't get is Westphals love affair with Landry in the 4th quarter. He was obviously struggling and it was just a bad matchup for him. I mean the dude is probably no more than 6'8" in shoes, and he's trying to guard Dirk whose 7'. And at the other end he's not only going up against Dirk, but against Chandler or Haywood, both of whom are good post defenders. I could see his frustration. He was clearly unconfortable out there, and I don't understand why Westphal couldn't see it.
The best part is that he always claims to base his rotations on:
1. Players playing well
2. Matchup advantages
Guess that means that Greene wasn't playing well, Landry was playing well, and Landry clearly had the advantage on Dirk.
What's annoying is how he always claims to stick with the guys doing well, yet clearly shows certain players playing horribly more favouritism. Matchup advantages? How bout starting Garcia with Evans? Or how about not trying to make a 6'9 undersized PF who can't rebound try to defend one of the best 7 footers in the league.
1. Players playing well
2. Matchup advantages
Guess that means that Greene wasn't playing well, Landry was playing well, and Landry clearly had the advantage on Dirk.
What's annoying is how he always claims to stick with the guys doing well, yet clearly shows certain players playing horribly more favouritism. Matchup advantages? How bout starting Garcia with Evans? Or how about not trying to make a 6'9 undersized PF who can't rebound try to defend one of the best 7 footers in the league.
Not that I'm wishing Westphal gets fired, but if he did and the team continued to lose 80% of the time, I wonder what all the people calling for Westphal's head would say then. Would they realize that the problem was more the team than the coach or would they just predictably call for the new coach's head too?
Exactly! I wonder if there was a fan poll which of this long list of Kings head coaches would be voted, "most deserved to be fired" or rank them as such. My order would be in best to least:
Adelman - Should have at least be offered a contract which Rick could have took or rejected since he was technically not fired - just not retained.
Theus - Was in second season of his 3 year deal of which final year was an option. Should have at least been allowed to complete year two since Natt was a total debacle.
Westphal - The jury is still out IMO, so let him continue on for awhile, maybe quite awhile.
Muss - A power point drunken joke barely suited for NBDL where he's now landed.
Natt - Hopeless and why Maloof's didn't anticipate it we'll never know - just like all the other coaching misfires.
Adelman - Should have at least be offered a contract which Rick could have took or rejected since he was technically not fired - just not retained.
Theus - Was in second season of his 3 year deal of which final year was an option. Should have at least been allowed to complete year two since Natt was a total debacle.
Westphal - The jury is still out IMO, so let him continue on for awhile, maybe quite awhile.
Muss - A power point drunken joke barely suited for NBDL where he's now landed.
Natt - Hopeless and why Maloof's didn't anticipate it we'll never know - just like all the other coaching misfires.
On a positive note, I like that he kicked Cousins out of practice, then gave him big minutes and a prominent role, including being a playmaker in the final possession of the Mavs game. His methods make me angry, but I'm willing to wait until the end of the season. The early returns are poor, but it's possible the young guys do improve this year, and that's the most important thing.
Umm, ok. Let's put it this way. Right now, we are loosing game by game and it doesn't look like we're gonna end that streak soon. So if you say that we shouldn't fire PW, it means that this is a process after which we are going to get better? Are we really going to get something out of this losses in the end? I am not saying we won't, just asking..?