Fire Christie
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SacTownKid
Hall of Famer
And the good teams have this thing called development. You know, they do actually factor in their young guys regardless because they could very well be a part of the long term picture. The Kings are Kangzing at a level never seen before and that's saying something.
SacTownKid
Hall of Famer
Nobody asked to be involved in this madness again. We're just stuck in it. Again.
I don’t think that’s the correct question. The question is why did Perry add a Schroder, then a Westbrook,and a Saric if it’s a gap year which is what he’s saying this is. The longer we wait to play these young guys bigger minutes, the more time we waste. Time is important. The gap year should be finding out what Keegan can do in regards to being a 2nd option or even first. Same for Nique. Can Carter’s defense make up for his shooting. Etc, etc, etc
This is going to get real ugly when we get home and they are being blown out. Not sure I’d fire Christie but I don’t think he’s very good. I’m not going to speculate on what he’s supposed to do or not supposed to do. What I see is a swift train wreck full of vets who for the 2nd time in less than a year have quit on a coach.
So can we just consolidate the same conversations? Or do we enjoy saying the same freaking things in different ways across 87 threads? Again, what is being said here is no different. Maybe the board will go down again for a bit and save us all some headache lol
BuddyBuckets
Bench
Lol. Kings fans should boycott, once it hurts his pockets he will cash out his 10x return and go buy a soccer team.
It's a gap year because the first half the year is trash like this to get off these contracts and the second half of the year is youth movement.
Next year will not be a gap year, it will be full on youth movement and another ~25 win season. Y'all still will be mad. Book it.
Doubt that. People are mad because this is a waste of time with very erratic effort.
Play the youth and fans will get behind it. Will be frustrating but they get hope.
There is no hope with this group.
Absolutely not, if we're prioritizing Keegan/Keon/Nique/Maxime etc and their development with the top pick. I dont think a single Kings fan would be mad at a full blown youth movement that wins 25 games.
I will be mad if they try to block those guys with over the hill vets again en route to 25 wins.
Summer League is proof of concept there. Absolute blast watching the young guys try and figure it out. Actually try on defense, something this franchise refuses to do
The NBA pays attention to the minutes these guys play and could strip our pick if we are deemed to be tanking by playing the kids and only giving DeMar 10 minutes a night while he's healthy. I'm not willing to chance that. I'm also not willing to just carry these guys on the roster two more seasons. I want to move them and that means playing them.
I guarantee at least half the fanbase will be mad.
fansinceday1
Starter
I despise Vivek and the rest of the FO for setting up Christie for failure. Vivek set up Vlade to sully his rep and now he’s doing the same for Christie.
I find it incredible that the fans left going to the games haven’t really embarrassed Vivek at all. He’s sitting there courtside asking to be booed.
I find it incredible that the fans left going to the games haven’t really embarrassed Vivek at all. He’s sitting there courtside asking to be booed.
fansinceday1
Starter
I’ll tell you exactly what’s gonna happen. This FO is gonna have to attach 1st round picks to get rid of these veterans. This franchise is just totally screwed for the forseeable future.
Obviously you can't do that but I think we can get off of these guys as they expire. They all play offense and no defense and there is always room for one of those guys on a team, just not 6.
Padrino
All-Star
I don't think there should be any difficulty finding justification for benching 36-year-old DeMar DeRozan, 37-year-old Russell Westbrook, and/or 32-year-old Dennis Schroder, who's been a journeyman for his entire career and is no stranger to the bench.
Zach LaVine is another matter, but with the team sporting an OFFRTG of 108.1 (26th), a DEFRTG of 120.7 (27th), and a NETRTG of -12.6 (27th), I can't imagine any head coach staring down a 3-13 record and coming to the conclusion that it's not worthwhile to engage a meaningful shake-up of their rotation.
If the top of the roster were merely bad, you could get away with stunting the development of the younger players until you moved off some of these veterans. But the top of the roster is not merely bad, is it? It's a nightly embarrassment, and it makes it head-scratching in the extreme that Devin Carter can't even get on the court in the middle of a blowout.
We're 16 games into a very long season when we knew this was going to happen. If things don't change beginning in December when contracts can be moved it is the appropriate time to worry, but I just don't see the point until the deadline comes and we can say definitively that we're stuck with these guys.
BuddyBuckets
Bench
This isn't reality. Silver is not forcing us to play these bums 30mpg for fear of losing a pick.
This team is losing by 30-40pts. It's not like we are winning games and benching vets because we don't want to win. We suck either way.
Padrino
All-Star
I'll believe the second half of the year is a youth movement when I see it. The Kings don't often operate like much smarter franchises do. If they decide to commit to shipping off the vets for whatever draft capital they can get, while prioritizing minutes for their younger players, then I'll give credit everywhere it is due. For now, I'm maintaining a healthy skepticism.
As for next year, I would be elated if the Kings engaged a full-on youth movement that led to a 25-win season. At least there's hope for the future in such a scenario. It would mean the Kings have a long-term plan that recognizes the need for multiple bites at the apple. No more half-measures. No more tiny margins for error. The Fox/Sabonis pairing had potential, but the Kings had so few ways to improve their roster after the Beam Team season because they, like always, tried to shortcut the process.
Give me 2-3 seasons of futility while acquiring additional first rounders wherever possible. They don't have to go Maximum Presti™, but it would be nice if they could really focus on drafting and developing young talent for awhile.
Something like a third of the fanbase was miserable during the golden years. There is no way that at least half the fans are going to be ok with whatever the next 2-3 years do. Perry was able to get Dolan to do a full reset in two years in NY. I trust he can get it done here.
If the team wins with the kids, people will complain. If the team doesn't, people will complain. People are going to complain no matter what. They complained we didn't fire Brown, they complained we did. They tore Fox apart for years, then got mad we traded him.
It's why I'm not watching. I suggest others do the same. That would also send the message.
ShastaKingsFan
Hall of Famer
Lavine, DeRozan, and Monk would all be effective in a 6th man scoring role for the right teams. Obviously nobody wants a 47 million dollar 6th man
Hopefully they will take the other two off our hands. It will solve 90% of our problems.
A huge part of our problem is literally there are 3 guys that all should be SG getting paid like starters. And all the guys we want to play are also SG who can flex up or down.
This is the dumbest roster ever.
Elektrik
Starter
…you mean like gambling?
You must be new here. This is a yearly tradition, much like Elf on a Shelf, or the more popular, Snoop on a Stoop.
Elektrik
Starter
Wellllllllll……I suppose that’s true. However, the league could apply some serious pressure to force him to sell or resign or turn it over to a family member….Angeli heavens no, or whatever her name is.
Elektrik
Starter
STOP THE MADNESS!!!!!!
You have to realize there are at least 10 other teams in the league that feels about their owner how we feel about Vivek.
QWERTYLICIOUS
Starter
On what basis are you assuming the league can apply some serious pressure to force him to sell, resign, or turn it over to a family member?
Joshyjosh31
Starter
Why? Are they used to winning? Were we a winni kg team before if we start tanking
Incompetence isn't a fireable offense when it comes to owners. It would be nice if new owners were handed a DO and DO NOT pamphlet when buying a team, though.
"Vivek, did you not read page 5?" Idk. He fired Malone. He fired Monte, who was decent but not spectacular, he seems to be star-struck by big names and abdicates to them more than managers. But he's not looking to cut ties and move the team to Virginia Beach.
I think he DOES want to win. He just needs to realize that silicon valley shtick doesn't cut it here. How long of a rope did Denver give Malone? Long enough for a parade.
This team needs to be ripped to the studs, and you need to keep the building blocks that make sense. Sacramento, for all its warts, will support guys who try hard over big names who don't. If he understood that ONE, key point, he can turn things around.