Even though we sucked today (Mar. 19)...

1kingzfan said:
What is wrong with a coach calling a play every now and then down the stretch to try to change the 1-on-1 mode they see and stimulate ball movement to get a better shot? NOT every play but inject a little coaching to try to change the tempo and get back to the strength of what your TEAM has to offer? Answer: Nothing. It only makes sense.

Do we really want to show our opponents every play we have because our players are not getting it together? If it comes down to the wire and we need a basket than yes you got to draw a play. But to do it every time our players are slacking, what will we have left for the post season?
 
NO ONE said do it every time down the floor. I find it baffling that people are seemingly AGAINST running an unselfish, cohesive offense in late game situations. It's NOT all coaching, obviously. It's execution. A lot of it IS due to the fact that Artest, for one, doesn't even know all the plays yet. (Adelman said so in a radio interview last week) "saving the plays for the play offs" doesn't really work all that well if they aren't even scrimmaging and don't know the plays themselves:D It certainly wouldn't hurt to actually run some once or twice in real game situations.
Bad habits are hard to break, and this team is developing a bad habit of playing too much one on one and taking too many quick shots in crunch time (works great if Bibby and/or Artest is hot, not so good otherwise) Apparently, I was laboring under some misperception that the coaching staff actually had some input/influence over what the guys on the floor are attempting to do. But, alas, those time outs really are just commercial breaks, I guess.
 
NanaKing said:
Sorry For The "late" Post But I Wasn't Near The Computer Yesterday.
Wow!!!! Guess I Really Stirred The Pot With My Post!
I Certainly Didn't Know I Was "ignorant Of The Game", "out Of Touch With Reality" Or Just Plain Didn't "understand."
From Now On I Will Keep My Frustrations Of How The Kings Are Playing To Myself. It Isn't Worth Being Belittled.
[peace]

Hello, you're a GIRL. What do you know?:p
Seriously though, while those comments are cetainly upsetting, I don't think they were directed at you, since you just pointed out the selfish play of late when the going gets tough (a point no one is disputing;) ). I believe they were directed at us feebs who thought coaches sometimes coach at the end of games:D Then again, I could be wrong, I'm a girl too:p
 
Kingsgurl said:
I believe they were directed at us feebs who thought coaches sometimes coach at the end of games.

Yeah, I always wondered why coaches call timeouts with a few seconds left in a close game, too. It's obviously not to COACH, or call a play, or make any adjustments....it must just be so the players can rest...stretch their legs a bit before the taxing final few seconds.

I don't know what came over me to think that it should be any different with, say, 3 or 4 minutes to go in a close game, and the coach sees that his offense is sputtering. And now that I know the revered Larry Brown, Phil Jackson, and other future HOF coaches do exactly the same thing, that must be what coaches do (umm, don't do) in those situations.

I was laboring under the misconception in those situations that a coach could signal his point guard with the play he wanted to run, you know, to change it up a bit and try to get his team OUT of the 1-on-1 death spiral, if it wasn't working. Or, more drastically, call a timeout, if that's what it took.

Silly me.

I guess being part of the "minority opinion" (a label which makes no sense and is ultra-presumptive, BTW) is where I will have to be.
 
1kingzfan said:
Yeah, I always wondered why coaches call timeouts with a few seconds left in a close game, too. It's obviously not to COACH, or call a play, or make any adjustments....it must just be so the players can rest...stretch their legs a bit before the taxing final few seconds.

I don't know what came over me to think that it should be any different with, say, 3 or 4 minutes to go in a close game, and the coach sees that his offense is sputtering. And now that I know the revered Larry Brown, Phil Jackson, and other future HOF coaches do exactly the same thing, that must be what coaches do (umm, don't do) in those situations.

I was laboring under the misconception in those situations that a coach could signal his point guard with the play he wanted to run, you know, to change it up a bit and try to get his team OUT of the 1-on-1 death spiral, if it wasn't working. Or, more drastically, call a timeout, if that's what it took.

Silly me.

I guess being part of the "minority opinion" (a label which makes no sense and is ultra-presumptive, BTW) is where I will have to be.

Is this particular subject really worth this much attitude and self satisfaction?

Really??
 
1kingzfan said:
Yeah, I always wondered why coaches call timeouts with a few seconds left in a close game, too. It's obviously not to COACH, or call a play, or make any adjustments....it must just be so the players can rest...stretch their legs a bit before the taxing final few seconds.

I don't know what came over me to think that it should be any different with, say, 3 or 4 minutes to go in a close game, and the coach sees that his offense is sputtering. And now that I know the revered Larry Brown, Phil Jackson, and other future HOF coaches do exactly the same thing, that must be what coaches do (umm, don't do) in those situations.

I was laboring under the misconception in those situations that a coach could signal his point guard with the play he wanted to run, you know, to change it up a bit and try to get his team OUT of the 1-on-1 death spiral, if it wasn't working. Or, more drastically, call a timeout, if that's what it took.

Silly me.

I guess being part of the "minority opinion" (a label which makes no sense and is ultra-presumptive, BTW) is where I will have to be.
Yeah, didn't you know calling timeout's with 3 minutes to go is just silly when all the team is doing is standing around letting artest bring it up and go one-on-one? :p

Apparently, we're ignorant and fail to understand the game of basketball.
 
1kingzfan said:
Yeah, I always wondered why coaches call timeouts with a few seconds left in a close game, too.

Well maybe because they haven't blown them all earlier at every point a panicked fan goes "I would have called a time out!"?

1kingzfan said:
I don't know what came over me to think that it should be any different with, say, 3 or 4 minutes to go in a close game, and the coach sees that his offense is sputtering. And now that I know the revered Larry Brown, Phil Jackson, and other future HOF coaches do exactly the same thing, that must be what coaches do (umm, don't do) in those situations.

And that right there speaks to the depths of your delusion. If the failure of the winningest coaches of all time to consistently prevent bad decisionmaking in the clutch with their current squads doesn't tell you its a tiny bit harder than you make it seem from the backseat, nothing will. And in your case, its entirely possible that nothing will, nor would you admit it if it would.

1kingzfan said:
I guess being part of the "minority opinion" (a label which makes no sense and is ultra-presumptive, BTW) is where I will have to be.

A whole lot of "I'm so persecuted" self-labeling going on today. If you're of the minority opinion its precisely because you take the obvious point that most/all can agree upon (too much late on on one play) and give it the most unreasonable self-righteous spin possible. As usual.


P.S. Tina, I'd appreciate it if you don't play the sexism card. You of all people know better, and so far as I can recall not a single poster raised that until you did.
 
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NanaKing said:
Sorry For The "late" Post But I Wasn't Near The Computer Yesterday.
Wow!!!! Guess I Really Stirred The Pot With My Post!
I Certainly Didn't Know I Was "ignorant Of The Game", "out Of Touch With Reality" Or Just Plain Didn't "understand."
From Now On I Will Keep My Frustrations Of How The Kings Are Playing To Myself. It Isn't Worth Being Belittled.
[peace]
Hey, ....id . Game after game after game after......... well you understand my point. The shots we take are the best we can get. It is just frustrating trying to figure out how every team we play already knows what we are going to do coming out of a timeout! Bibby brings the ball up hands to Miller at the key miller back to Bibby, Bibby for 3 with 18 seconds on the shot clock its..............? While Miller has been left alone at the key. Artest is in the paint with position, Thomas at the elbow with a good look at it and Kevin or Bonzi in the corner left alone because there man is cheating toward the basket anticipating a rebound. Now, that is the most ignorant thing I have ever said, so, you are off the hook cause now I am the ignorant one!
 
P.S. Tina, I'd appreciate it if you don't play the sexism card. You of all people know better, and so far as I can recall not a single poster raised that until you did.


Pssst, Eric, it was a joke. You know, humor. Just trying to lighten up a situation that had hurt some peoples feelings, although it seems like maybe that just does not matter much.
 
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