ESPN reporting Casspi to sign one-year deal (updated title)
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Why would it be at the expense of Moreland? Might not have been broadcast, but we know he got a ton of interest. I do think we'd be in the lead for his services though
Don't know that it would have to be. Just if for some reason we didn't want to use an extra roster spot or pay for both.
Bricklayer
Don't Make Me Use The Bat
Chubbs
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He's a fairly average 3 point shooter
Chubbs
Starter
And that's why he's making under a million.
Pineapple
Prospect
http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/11265890/omri-casspi-returning-sacramento-kings-one-year-deal
Guess this makes it official
"Because the Kings let Casspi clear waivers and will now sign him to a new one-year minimum deal, Casspi will only count against the cap for $915,243, which enables the Kings to stay under the tax threshold without being forced to release forward Quincy Acy.
Once the Kings complete the Casspi signing, they will have 14 players under contract while sitting just $61.052 under the tax line."
Guess this makes it official
"Because the Kings let Casspi clear waivers and will now sign him to a new one-year minimum deal, Casspi will only count against the cap for $915,243, which enables the Kings to stay under the tax threshold without being forced to release forward Quincy Acy.
Once the Kings complete the Casspi signing, they will have 14 players under contract while sitting just $61.052 under the tax line."
Outlaw: 6'9" 207lbs $3M per year
17mpg
5.4ppg
0.5apg
2.7rpg
FG: 40%
3pt: 35%
Casspi: 6'9" 225lbs ($900K)
18mpg
6.9ppg
1.2apg
3.7rpg
FG:42%
3pt: 34.7%
2 nearly identical players with casspi being a pain in the ass but for 1/3rd the price...I'll take casspi, trade outlaw and FOR GOD'S SAKE SIGN MORELAND!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I have a feeling that the FO is not going to sign him. We have heard all this nonsense about a player who duplicates the exact skill set of another already on the team for much cheaper, but is a potential locker room cancer that even the community of Sacramento never really embraced and badmouthed the admittedly terrible organization at the time on his way out of town. But we haven't heard a thing about a guy that can be had for dirt cheap, and could be groomed into the exact player that the Kings need next to Cousins (a defensive minded rim protector who doesnt need or even seem to want touches to be effective) and seems to, for some strange reason, WANT TO BE IN SACRAMENTO. Quote of the summer league "“I love the two-hand block; it’s like my signature thing ."
, not to mention PDA stated emphatically one of his goals was to go out and get a rim protector in the off season...well here he is...get of the hamptserwheel and sign him before you get snaked by a smarter non-gerbil GM and have nothing in your hands other than your stones and Omri freaking Casspi.
I can tell you this guy reminds me of a rookie Tyson Chandler (granted slightly there is a talent disparity) who just has a nose for the ball. He is going to definitely be playing in the NBA next year...I just hope its for the Kings but the way this front office is going with not a single average defender except Gay and Collison...i am not holding my breath. There is just no plan or blueprint to this team.
17mpg
5.4ppg
0.5apg
2.7rpg
FG: 40%
3pt: 35%
Casspi: 6'9" 225lbs ($900K)
18mpg
6.9ppg
1.2apg
3.7rpg
FG:42%
3pt: 34.7%
2 nearly identical players with casspi being a pain in the ass but for 1/3rd the price...I'll take casspi, trade outlaw and FOR GOD'S SAKE SIGN MORELAND!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I have a feeling that the FO is not going to sign him. We have heard all this nonsense about a player who duplicates the exact skill set of another already on the team for much cheaper, but is a potential locker room cancer that even the community of Sacramento never really embraced and badmouthed the admittedly terrible organization at the time on his way out of town. But we haven't heard a thing about a guy that can be had for dirt cheap, and could be groomed into the exact player that the Kings need next to Cousins (a defensive minded rim protector who doesnt need or even seem to want touches to be effective) and seems to, for some strange reason, WANT TO BE IN SACRAMENTO. Quote of the summer league "“I love the two-hand block; it’s like my signature thing ."
, not to mention PDA stated emphatically one of his goals was to go out and get a rim protector in the off season...well here he is...get of the hamptserwheel and sign him before you get snaked by a smarter non-gerbil GM and have nothing in your hands other than your stones and Omri freaking Casspi.I can tell you this guy reminds me of a rookie Tyson Chandler (granted slightly there is a talent disparity) who just has a nose for the ball. He is going to definitely be playing in the NBA next year...I just hope its for the Kings but the way this front office is going with not a single average defender except Gay and Collison...i am not holding my breath. There is just no plan or blueprint to this team.
Gotta credits the FO.
ShastaKingsFan
All-Star
It sounded like he was interested in the Kings at least as much as vice versa. Maybe he looked our current roster and new ownership and thought that he would really enjoy playing for us. Some people find more value in an 'ideal' situation for them personally vs making more money in a different situation that they wouldn't enjoy as much.
They already stated that he decided not to persue more money overseas, as a first option. He wants to play in the NBA and he wants to play for the Kings
ParniValjak
All-Star
Well the thing is he is not a 3 and D guy. He is an energy guy a bit like Acy. He brings some intensity, streaky shooting, decent rebounding but not much D.
He is a cheap back up who brings some of the skills we wouldn't mind having but to claim he is anything more than that is just pure homerism. He is an upgrade on Outlaw especially considering the salary but he is not a huge difference maker to our wins column for next season.
I don't mind the signing. There is a huge overreaction to it. Some are angry about it, some think he is a great pick up buts its somewhere in between....a bit of a meh!
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KingMilz
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So this means Acy or Moreland miss out on a spot? If so terrible deal. It also eliminates any chance we get Brooks as well.
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MassachusettsKingsFan
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Remember, the Kings signed Darren Collison to the full MLE minus one minimum contract. They could theoretically use the rest of that MLE on Casspi's deal, or use it on Moreland.
I should also note that Moreland recently followed Cuz on twitter, along with Sacramento local media accounts. Just sayin.
I should also note that Moreland recently followed Cuz on twitter, along with Sacramento local media accounts. Just sayin.
Not as a stretch 4....he becomes better than most, but as a SF, yes his 3 point shooting is very average. For certain matchups ....surrounding Cuz with Collison, Stauskas, Casspi, maybe Gay gives up some 3 point shooters for stretches.....I guess.
whozit
Starter
It wouldn't be on Casspi. The reported reason for leaving that niche was so they could offer a longer than two year contract. Presumably so at the end of the day, they can have RFA on that player when the contract is up (similar to Thomas'). The reports Casspi is either a one or two year minimum.
Link please? I don't think any official announcement has been made.
EDIT: A link to a story saying Casspi was "expected" to sign a one-year deal was posted in #159 above.
The MLE could not be used on Casspi's contract. The amount of the MLE we left over is the minimum salary for a player not drafted in the first round who has never played in the NBA ($507,336). The minimum contracts for veterans (e.g. Casspi, a 5-year vet) are larger. Oddly, since Casspi is on a one-year deal, the difference between his actual minimum salary ($1,063,384) and the two-year veteran's minimum ($915,243) will be reimbursed to the team by the league, and Casspi's cap number will be the latter. The league does this so that teams have incentive to pick up low-level veterans rather than go exclusively with young guys because they are cheaper.
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jdbraver
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Yay we signed a guy no one wanted!!!! Oh wait...
kingsfan101
Starter
Several points being raised. My (long) thoughts on them
- LT: AFAIK, going into LT means that not only does one pay the tax (which would be minimal in our case, even if went over it), the team loses it's share of the tax other teams pay. I personally do think that it's pointless to lose all that money, unless you are really improving the team/getting some assets. Fans don't care because it's not our money, but for owners, even rich owners, a few million dollars, is a reasonable amount of money. Moreover, if they earn now, they might be more willing to spend later, instead of the other way.
- Moreland: I didn't watch the SL, so don't know much about him. I did watch the video of his awesome two handed block multiple times though, and like everyone else, was massively impressed. That said, he (or most anyone in his position), will not make much difference. Even if signed, he would hardly see any floor time. The only reason to sign him would be if the FO thought that they have found a diamond in the rough. Finally, as someone else also mentioned, we have felt similarly excited in the past with Whitside, Justin Williams, Louie Amundson, etc.
- Why Casspi: I was thinking of that. Like Moreland, I don't expect him to see much floor time. I guess he might be a filler in a trade, or play some minutes if some other guy in his position is traded.
- Israel market?: I do wonder if people like Casspi or Sim are picked up/shown interest in, to target Israel/Indian fans. Again, they might see virtually no floor time, but might increase viewership in those countries for our games, which translates to more projection and higher earnings for the team. Again, this is purely speculation from my side, and I don't want to project the ownership/management as being driven solely by the business side. However, I don't think that anyone we sign for that kind of amount (if we get to contender level, we might get Ray Allens, etc. to play for us for that kind of money. Until then) will see much floor time. As long as the guys are not locker room poison, and bring a good attitude, they might let business interests "influence" their BB decisions a little. Again, for a team not many expect to make playoffs (particularly in the West), broadening its exposure is necessary. BB is not big in India, but Sim's signing with us, even if he played just a couple of mins in SL, made some noise.
sterö
Bench
Goodbye Moreland and Brooks...
LPKingsFan
All-Star
Revenue sharing and luxury tax payouts are entirely different things, although they may sometimes receive funds from the same source (at least that's how I read this http://www.cbafaq.com/salarycap.htm#Q22). I think what Vivek was promising was relating to the traditional revenue sharing, i.e. "we know Sacramento is a viable market to support a team, and to put our money where our mouth is we wont accept revenue sharing payments for small-market/non-profitable teams." Now, I think the question of whether that promise is even binding is very legitimate, and I haven't heard much about that promise since it was originally made.
HereWeBoogie
Hall of Famer
I don't like Casspi as a player at all but it's not like he's going to get a major role on the team so whatever. As long as the Kings are working to get rid of some players like Outlaw, JT, etc, this is fine
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