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You can look at hoopshype.com and clearly see that starting in 2005-2006, the Maloofs started pulling the purse away. So sad becauae it helped ruin Geoff Petrie.
Please tell me you are not a scientist.
You can look at hoopshype.com and clearly see that starting in 2005-2006, the Maloofs started pulling the purse away. So sad becauae it helped ruin Geoff Petrie.
Trying to remember if he drafted Big Al to Boston too. Those would be nice feathers.
Very interesting, as he has Petrie at 12 with a slightly positive ranking (and the last to achieve such).Bill Simmons GM rankings 2013, surprisingly, Wallace ranked 5th:
http://throwinitoutthere.wordpress.com/2013/03/11/nba-gm-power-rankings-according-to-bill-simmons/
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Pretty sure that was an Ainge pick.
Funny part is Wallace turned out to be right! Wonder if Pop ever ate his crow?
Not exactly, though he's been asked about it a few times, including this year's playoffs where he just rolled his eyes and said, "Please".
But to be honest I don't think he NEEDS to eat crow. The Spurs were the defending champs when the Pau trade happened in 2008 and it set the table for the Lakers to win two more championships. Sure, Marc looks great now, but Pau may have cost Pop another title in 2009 or 2010 had he not been in LA.
Well yeah, but his statement wasn't about the Spurs -- Memphis clearly has no duty to do what's best for the Spurs. His statement is he would have voided the trade because it was terrible for Memphis (and of course great for the Lakers). But in the end it didn't turn out to be terrible for Memphis. Still not sure how much of that Wallace knew was going to happen, but still.
Wallace stuck around in Boston in a diminished role until around 2007. Ainge took over in 2003 after ownership changed. He brought in Bowen during the Pitino years which I thought was a good move - apparently he was in Miami during Wallace's tenure there. He completely blew a 3 first round pick draft as well. Well, he did draft Joe Johnson only to trade him that year. Otherwise he was pretty unremarkable to downright godawful.Yeah, had forgotten when exactly he got canned by the Celtics. Wikipedia claims he was with them for 10 years, which would have been 1997-2007. But hoopshype's transaction record suggests he was out in Boston after 2002-03, then sat out 5 years before taking over the Grizz. If that's true then virtually the only good thing he did in his entire Celtcis tenure was draft Pierce. The rest was just blech, although in the early years that was notoriously Rick Pitono's muddled meddling.
Pop was right and wrong. He was wrong because Marc Gasol is playing much better than Pau. However, Pau helped bring rings to the Lakers, Memphis has zero.
Play fair Brick, you can hardly criticize Wallace in one post for trading recently drafted players like Love who had not performed well, saying Wallace "failed to see the talent" then in the next post fail to give Wallace credit for the guys he traded for saying "I am not sure he saw the talent"No, as it turned out Pop was wrong and wrong. As were most. But Pop went on record saying he wished he could void the deal. Quite obviously as it turned out that would have been completely out of line. It worked out for Memphis and they are better now than they ever were with Pau. Just a question, as I've said, of whether Wallace really deserves credit for planning that result.
2. Drafting ThabeetFor Gasol and Memphis’ Hakim Warrick, the Bulls were willing to part with Andres Nocioni, Tyrus Thomas, Joakim Noah, Thabo Sefolosha, possibly Adrian Griffin and draft picks.
Heisley didn’t offer up those names, but insisted, “Chicago wouldn’t offer us any of their good, core players,” he said.
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Around the league there are those who believe that Wallace was forced to turn the Gasol trade into a salary dump, and there are league officials, including a close friend, who believe, “There is no way that Chris ever would’ve made that trade on his own.”
Play fair Brick, you can hardly criticize Wallace in one post for trading recently drafted players like Love who had not performed well, saying Wallace "failed to see the talent" then in the next post fail to give Wallace credit for the guys he traded for saying "I am not sure he saw the talent"
I would WAY rather have Petrie over Wallace...
I have said this before...I wonder how much of Petrie's horrible job he has done the past years is due to the Maloofs. I would really like to give him the power to do WHATEVER he wants and see where it goes.
I would WAY rather have Petrie over Wallace...
I have said this before...I wonder how much of Petrie's horrible job he has done the past years is due to the Maloofs. I would really like to give him the power to do WHATEVER he wants and see where it goes.
Maybe the plan is for Wallace to be Malone's goffer?Its an awful longshot. Reeks of throwing **** against the wall and hoping something sticks. Then when it does you take it down and parade around saying see? See?
I actually think I am being charitable I admitting the possibility of a plan there. I'm rather more encouraged by the post here suggesting Heisley may have shortcircuited a superior deal with Chicago that included Noah. As we've seen with Petrie, get a meddlesome owner who doesn't know his stuff and it can make anyone look bad (and I say that as someone who generally approves of the right of owners to meddle -- I know when I buy a team that GM is going to be a puppet who brings me coffee and doughnuts in the morning before I shoo him off to dust the trophy room.![]()