Erased like it never happened?

[VF21]

Okay, if this isn't the best example of ostrich thinking, I don't know what is...

Kings.com now has NOTHING about what's happened the last few days. NOTHING. Go check it out. Look under News, and then Top Stories.

There WAS stuff there before but now it's all gone.

This is ridiculous. I don't know who they're trying to fool. "Don't talk about it. Take it off the website and we'll pretend it didn't happen."

Good lord. If this doesn't PROVE they know it was a major gaffe, I don't know what would.

I'm sending an email to kings@arcoarena.com Someone needs to let them know the news. The Kings don't have a head coach. He was released along with his staff. And they're looking for one who will be more personable OR more defensive minded OR whatever the party line currently is... NOT having any information on the team's website about it isn't going to change the fact. And it sure isn't going to remove all the stuff already out there. Who do they think they're trying to fool?

Once again, someone at Maloofs Sports has made a bone-head decision.

 

[VF21]

Here's the email I sent:

Title: Breaking News

Are you kidding me?

The Kings official website now has NOTHING about Rick Adelman and how he was summarily dismissed by the Maloofs? Not even a nice little fluffy piece full of false compliments and smoke and mirrors?

Hello? Have you missed the news?

Rick Adelman is no longer the coach of the Sacramento Kings. I think that's top news for the website.

Was this done because pretty much the entire world disapproves of how his departure was handled?

The Maloofs own the team but that doesn't make them immune from criticism from the people who spend their hard-earned dollars supporting that team. The fact the website devoted to the team would apparently be so afraid of negative feedback that they don't even talk about the biggest news story about the Kings since Artest's arrival speaks volumes. And they aren't very good volumes.

I love this team. I loved it long before the Maloofs came along. I still love the team. I'm sure not very happy with the shoddy way the Maloofs treated Rick Adelman at the end. He deserved much better treatment than what he was afforded.

This reeks.

(my name)
Kings fan since 1985

IMHO once again the powers that be in one part of Arco just don't get it.

 

[kingkung]

HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAAAHAAHAHAHAHAAHAHAAHAHAA

WTF? Maybe they're just re-editing the page... taking out all the 'mutual's and replacing them with 'singularly'

 

[kingkung]

VF, you should end all of your letters to them with

Moderator, KingsFans.com.

Flex a little muscle, show that you have some sway over their PR, and they'll respond to you quicker.

 

[VF21]

VF, you should end all of your letters to them with

Moderator, KingsFans.com.

Flex a little muscle, show that you have some sway over their PR, and they'll respond to you quicker.

Oh, believe me. This isn't the first email I've sent to them.

 

[Gary]

Usually when companies let someone of major importance go they don't dwell on it for long. It's there, than it's gone.

I have been a victim of downsizing recently and they way they handled it was call me on the phone after I got home from work telling me not to come in tomorrow because myself and 15 others in my dept didn't have the senority.

By the next day everything was back to normal. Half the people didn't even realize we were gone until I AIM'd them at work telling them I was not there.

This is the way corporate world works. As sad as it sounds it's true. As much as I disagree on how it's practiced I have to accept it. The Sacramento Kings are a corporation just like any other large company. When things happen they are swept under a rug.

 

[kingkung]

This is the letter I sent them:

Subject: King-sized Turnaround

Hey Kings.com PR,

Great article!! Great postseason report.

In fact, it's good to know that Rick Adelman is still coach of the
Kings, he's going to lead them to the title next year!!!

-Bunny with a Pancake Hat

 

[VF21]

Gary - But would you erase the articles on the website devoted to the team that talk about it?

Rick Adelman was released as head coach of the Sacramento Kings. That's pretty significant team news, especially since there is no immediate replacement waiting in the wings.

Revisionist history is dangerous, whether it's being done 20 years after the fact or two days later.

Sorry, Gary, but it looks like they're trying to deal with the negative responses to how this was handled by pretending it'll all go away if they just don't have it out there to remind people.

I think they're doing a big disservice to Kings fans. We're not that dumb and our memories are a little better than those of goldfish.

I'm going to remember that we don't have ANY coaching staff, even if someone in MSE has decided to remove any and all mention of it from the website.

 

[kingkung]

I think they're doing a big disservice to Kings fans. We're not that dumb and our memories are a little better than those of goldfish.

We're not goldfish, but we are the 'Gold Standard'!! YEAH!!!

 

[quick dog]

The pancake bunny is even funnier than my dog.

 

[Gary]

VF - How long did you expect them to dwell on it?

When out centers boss was let go a few years back there was about two sentences devoted to him saying he is no longer here, and nobody has been picked yet to replace him. This was a guy that had been with the company for 20+ years. We didn't hang up banners, we didn't devote our companies web page to his exit. When we did hear of the promotion from within we said congrats, and it was business as usual.

Kingsfans.com is the outlet to discuss. Not Kings.com main page...

Of course they shouldn't keep it on the site. Why have something up there to remind us all that Adelman isn't the coach anymore? Why dwell on something that wont make a bit of difference if we did? The Kings PR is aware of this site, they are aware that we are pretty pissed off about this. I think it would pee me off even more if the companies site kept it up there. Removing it imo was a good decision (of course we will never agree on this)

Again, the Kings are a company, Kings.com is their webpage. As with any other major company they will not keep reports up that they fired one of their bosses. It's just not what a company does. Look around though. I am sure you will see new outlets still discussing our situations like they very well should.

We here keep his coaching memory alive. Not them. Maybe one day they will honor him as a pivital point in the Kings era, maybe they wont. (I hope they do)

 

[VF21]

Gary. Whatever.

There are still articles there from when Peja was traded. There are still articles there from when Garcia was drafted.

When a team removes a coach and looks for another one, it's news. But not according to the official website. It's all been removed. But just the part about Adelman.

I am well aware that the Kings are a company. And I'm also still aware that Adelman is the FORMER head coach, having been removed two whole days ago.

The official Kings website is for Kings news. There is a link for news that says TOP STORIES. There is stuff there that goes back quite a while. WHY isn't there anything about Adelman?

We'll simply have to agree to disagree because I am NOT going to buy into the "it's old news" stuff and your experience at your job is in NO WAY comparable to an NBA franchise.

 

[kingkung]

Yup. It's pretty ridiculous.

What's more ridiculous is that they had the news on the website two days ago, and then the moment Adelman tells his side of the story (aka 'the truth'), Kings.com PR, for lack of a better term, '**** a brick', and pulled out their version of the story with no explanation.

 

[VF21]

^^Exactly.

 

[RoyalDiva]

Could it just be a matter of the news not making the website yet, despite it's relevancy? I don't recall either the Kings or Monarch's sites getting updated on a very frequent basis, even when hot news like this happened. That is why I long ago stopped going to those sites for news and info.

 

[Gary]

VF- Yah we disagree. I am at a loss here. You know, my former job website where both a big boss, and myself were let go has news on it too. My job was not a coach of an NBA team, but my job was to lead a group of people under the banner of a real big company. That's where the similarites end.

The whole news section on the site has people we hire, or stuff we are doing with other companies. We can put there how we let go a guy with 20+ years exp in his field because of no reason I can come up with, or how myself and my dept was let go because we were "expendable".

Why on earth would a site like Kings.com mull over NEGATIVE NEWS. It does not make sense. That is our job to be pissed off about this, not the official sites job to keep this in our minds.

This is the stories from the front page..

Sacramento Kings Fans - Recognized in the Top of the NBA
Looking For a Job in Sports?

I used to work at Apple (ok I said it) although not in the news dept but I did help with the web page and worked in conjunction with our other web staff, and we would never EVER post news that is negative to Apple as a company, or any of our affiliates. It's a HUGE no-no. Other peopel that work in the same field should understand about the whole company image thing.

The whol Peja trade is positive news because it brought Artest.

But alas, we are not going to convice each other to swing the other way so its a moot point.

We had headphones for out IPODS that "allegedly" were too loud for children, and people were angry about that. We had a lawsuit brought against our company for that reason. We came up with a IPOD update that would reduce the "max volume" of our IPODS.

My dept posted that update. Did we post news about how everyone was complaining about it? nope, just posted that we had an update that reduced the maximum volume on our IPODS. What would be the point about saying that because of so many people complaining that we are posting this update.

 

[D-Mass]

Could it just be a matter of the news not making the website yet, despite it's relevancy? I don't recall either the Kings or Monarch's sites getting updated on a very frequent basis, even when hot news like this happened. That is why I long ago stopped going to those sites for news and info.

It WAS on there, then was pulled. That's crazy!

At the very least, they could have run a positive story about Rick's contributions to the team, organization, and community. Would a thank you article have killed them?

 

[kingkung]

Why on earth would a site like Kings.com mull over NEGATIVE NEWS. It does not make sense. That is our job to be pissed off about this, not the official sites job to keep this in our minds.

This is not necessarily a negative news story. They could say they're going in a different direction. Hiding the story just makes them look even worse. This is just a slap in the face for Adelman, who they're going 'Farenheit 451' (or 'Da Vinci Code') on.

 

[RoyalDiva]

VF- Yah we disagree. I am at a loss here. You know, my former job website where both a big boss, and myself were let go has news on it too. My job was not a coach of an NBA team, but my job was to lead a group of people under the banner of a real big company. That's where the similarites end.

The whole news section on the site has people we hire, or stuff we are doing with other companies. We can put there how we let go a guy with 20+ years exp in his field because of no reason I can come up with, or how myself and my dept was let go because we were "expendable".

Why on earth would a site like Kings.com mull over NEGATIVE NEWS. It does not make sense. That is our job to be pissed off about this, not the official sites job to keep this in our minds.

This is the stories from the front page..

Sacramento Kings Fans - Recognized in the Top of the NBA
Looking For a Job in Sports?

I used to work at Apple (ok I said it) although not in the news dept but I did help with the web page and worked in conjunction with our other web staff, and we would never EVER post news that is negative to Apple as a company, or any of our affiliates. It's a HUGE no-no. Other peopel that work in the same field should understand about the whole company image thing.

The whol Peja trade is positive news because it brought Artest.

But alas, we are not going to convice each other to swing the other way so its a moot point.

I agree with you completely, Gary. Also-could the lack of news be a legal matter of privacy and liability? Obviously, this Adelman news is by far not private, but in most workplaces, it is never announced when someone gets canned on the company websites because of privacy reasons. Heck, most of the time it is never even announced when someone leaves under better conditions. I think it's just a matter of the company not wanting to share someone's personal news.

 

[Bricklayer]

I agree with you completely, Gary. Also-could the lack of news be a legal matter of privacy and liability? Obviously, this Adelman news is by far not private, but in most workplaces, it is never announced when someone gets canned on the company websites because of privacy reasons.

Not even close.

Adelman is a public figure, and his firing was carriewd on every major news agency across the country.

And these stories are ALWAYS up at team's website. You know, the websites that are supposedly there to tell you waht's going on with your team.

They just, for about the 1000th time in the last couple of years, bungled yet another thing, badly misinterpreted the public reaction, and now would like to just bury it and hope it goes away.

 

[VF21]

I agree with you completely, Gary. Also-could the lack of news be a legal matter of privacy and liability? Obviously, this Adelman news is by far not private, but in most workplaces, it is never announced when someone gets canned on the company websites because of privacy reasons. Heck, most of the time it is never even announced when someone leaves under better conditions. I think it's just a matter of the company not wanting to share someone's personal news.

Hello? It WAS on there. It was removed...completely and utterly. One part of it had the official party line - which we now know to be horse puckey - about Adelman and the Maloofs reaching a mutual decision.

What's going on is spin control. They have to rewrite the article because Adelman didn't stick to the party line. He told it like it was and it exposed the "discrepancies" in the two stories.

 

[RoyalDiva]

Hello? It WAS on there. It was removed...completely and utterly. One part of it had the official party line - which we now know to be horse puckey - about Adelman and the Maloofs reaching a mutual decision.

Did not know at the time of my post that it had been removed.

 

[Revrag]

I just checked the Sonics page (The only other team I could remember to fire a coach recently) and guess what? If you go to the news section there is an article right near the top about Weiss being fired.

“Bob Weiss has been a solid part of the Sonics coaching staff for many years,” said Sund. “He and I agreed that a change needed to be made to serve as a catalyst for elevating the performance of our team, and the timing is right for us today. He is a good man with an outstanding basketball mind and we look forward to his continued association with the organization.”

I just don't get those of you that say you understand why this isn't on the "news" page at the Kings official site. If this isn't Kings news what is?

 

[Revrag]

And the Bucks site:

June 22, 2005 - Terry Porter will not return as head coach of the Milwaukee Bucks for the 2005-2006 season, General Manager Larry Harris announced today. The club will honor the terms of the final year of Porter’s contract. ...

 

[VF21]

VF- Yah we disagree. I am at a loss here. You know, my former job website where both a big boss, and myself were let go has news on it too. My job was not a coach of an NBA team, but my job was to lead a group of people under the banner of a real big company. That's where the similarites end.

Exactly. And yet you continue to compare the two. Stereotypical example of comparing apples and NBA teams.

The whole news section on the site has people we hire, or stuff we are doing with other companies. We can put there how we let go a guy with 20+ years exp in his field because of no reason I can come up with, or how myself and my dept was let go because we were "expendable".

Why on earth would a site like Kings.com mull over NEGATIVE NEWS. It does not make sense. That is our job to be pissed off about this, not the official sites job to keep this in our minds.

It's not about positive or negative. It's about a personnel change that affects the present and future of the franchise. It's just like talking about drafting Garcia, trading Bobby for Bonzi, trading Peja for Artest, etc. It's an integral part of a team's identity and fans should be able to read about it on the team website.

This is the stories from the front page..

Sacramento Kings Fans - Recognized in the Top of the NBA
Looking For a Job in Sports?

I used to work at Apple (ok I said it) although not in the news dept but I did help with the web page and worked in conjunction with our other web staff, and we would never EVER post news that is negative to Apple as a company, or any of our affiliates. It's a HUGE no-no. Other peopel that work in the same field should understand about the whole company image thing.

The whol Peja trade is positive news because it brought Artest.

But alas, we are not going to convice each other to swing the other way so its a moot point.

It's NOT about negative news. It's about events as I've explained above.

We had headphones for out IPODS that "allegedly" were too loud for children, and people were angry about that. We had a lawsuit brought against our company for that reason. We came up with a IPOD update that would reduce the "max volume" of our IPODS.

My dept posted that update. Did we post news about how everyone was complaining about it? nope, just posted that we had an update that reduced the maximum volume on our IPODS. What would be the point about saying that because of so many people complaining that we are posting this update.

You wouldn't post anything about the complaints because that could lead to product liability issues. BIG difference. And you are, once again, totally missing the point.

Hiring or firing a coach is HUGE news for any sports franchise. Go to any NFL, MLB, NHL or OTHER NBA website and check. If there's been a change in the coaching staff, it's reported on the website. If there's a player acquisition, it's on the website. If a player retires, it's on the website. If a trainer comes or goes, it's on the website.

 

[kingkung]

If I weren't a law-abiding citizen, I would encourage one of our members to hack into the web page and write in HUGE LETTERS at the top of the page:
ADELMAN FIRED!!!

 

[Revrag]

Miami

December 12 – The Miami HEAT announced today that Stan Van Gundy has resigned as Head Coach due to personal and family reasons. HEAT President Pat Riley will assume head coaching duties immediately. Van Gundy will remain with the HEAT as an NBA free agent evaluator, while also assisting the team in other projects. ...

Do you need more examples?

 

[kingkung]

Miami

Do you need more examples?

yes, please list out the 26 other teams that fired coaches and listed it on their web sites

 

[Damathon]

For those who missed it on the main page before it was deleted -- still available on Google's cache of the page--
http://72.14.207.104/search?q=cache:TRS21s1R9asJ:www.nba.com/kings/+&hl=en&gl=us&ct=clnk&cd=1

and the media release is still up:
http://www.nba.com/kings/news/Kings_Release_Rick_Adelman.html

 

[D-Mass]

For those who missed it on the main page before it was deleted -- still available on Google's cache of the page--
http://72.14.207.104/search?q=cache:TRS21s1R9asJ:www.nba.com/kings/+&hl=en&gl=us&ct=clnk&cd=1

and the media release is still up:
http://www.nba.com/kings/news/Kings_Release_Rick_Adelman.html

Great links...but the last one is not quite "up"...if you actually go to the NEWS tab and click "media releases", the last one listed is the acquisition of Sergei Monia and Vitaly Potapenko. So, that page is about as "up" as this one.

What a bunch of poop.