Drew Gooden ..... Yes or No?????

TheJoker

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Would you want to trade for him, i consider himself a upgrade over Magloire Gooden might have critics for being soft but i still think a line-up of

Brad Miller
Drew Gooden
Ron Artest
Kevin Martin
Mike Bibby

Better then

Brad Miller
Kenny Thomas
Ron Artest
Kevin Martin
Mike Bibby

thoughts? you think the Maloofs and Geoff will go for it?
 
Magloire > Gooden.

Gooden's a good rebounder, but he's not an inside presence, not much of a post-defender (from what I've hearrd), not a shotblocker, smaller overall than Magloire, not as good offensively as Magloire, but decent. Gooden's more athletic and quicker. Wants too much money - aka 9-10 million for 5-6 years.

Does little to nothing for our front-court, and only would gives us another bad contract.
 
If we could get him for KT then yes but since Drew wants Nene like contract thenthat idea is unlikely and the answer becomes no. Gooden doesn't exactly address our needs
 
02-03: 12.1PPG
03-04: 13.6PPG
04-05: 12.5PPG
05-06: 10.7PPG

Thats Gooden's numbers compared to Magloires

00-01: 4.6PPG
01-02: 8.5PPG
02-03: 10.3PPG
03-04: 13.6PPG
04-05: 11.7PPG
05-06: 9.2PPG

and Magloire has been in this league more then Gooden now offensively numbers look the same but Drew Gooden seems to have more polished offense and even though he's not the best defender in the world but let's not forget Brad Miller's defense is not the best either.
 
Nah he's not the shotblocker/defender/athlete that we need. Good rebounder but kindof like just a better Jerome Williams(might be remembering the wrong player here, not sure).
 
02-03: 12.1PPG
03-04: 13.6PPG
04-05: 12.5PPG
05-06: 10.7PPG

Thats Gooden's numbers compared to Magloires

00-01: 4.6PPG
01-02: 8.5PPG
02-03: 10.3PPG
03-04: 13.6PPG
04-05: 11.7PPG
05-06: 9.2PPG

and Magloire has been in this league more then Gooden now offensively numbers look the same but Drew Gooden seems to have more polished offense and even though he's not the best defender in the world but let's not forget Brad Miller's defense is not the best either.

More offense in a defensive big right now would be a bonus to us, as we already have plenty of offense in the front-court with Brad and SAR. Hence in Magloire's case, who is a two-way big-man.

What we need is interior defense. Drew Gooden is not an answer to that need, the bold also saying that above. The only thing he'd help us with is rebounding, and we already got a damn good rebounder in KT, and if we trade him, replacing him with Gooden doesn't do much. We wouldn't do that anyways.

Overall, Magloire > Gooden. Magloire's skilled in the post, average quickness, a big body, long, a very good rebounder, a presence in the paint. Gooden's a good rebounder, but he's not an inside defensive presence, not much of a post-defender (from what I've heard), not a shotblocker, smaller overall than Magloire, solid offensively. Gooden's more athletic and quicker.

Besides, Magloire is a center, Gooden's an undersized PF.

Gooden wants too much money - 9-10 million for 5-6 years. Why? Because of Nene and Wilcox's asking price. Gooden does little to nothing for our front-court, and would give us an even worse contract.
 
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Nah he's not the shotblocker/defender/athlete that we need. Good rebounder but kindof like just a better Jerome Williams(might be remembering the wrong player here, not sure).

well they are both bold and they do both wear knee high socks and a headband... hehehe...

not sure if gooden wears the knee high socks these days...
 
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Gooden doesn't help us. He's not good at the things we need somebody to be good at. Another lower level too small PF starter with shaky defense isn;t going to fix anything. Especially at the price he's asking.
 
No to Drew Gooden. Doesn't help us in any of our current problems. Just adds another undersized PF who scores points and grabs rebounds.
 
gooden is an upgrade over SAR and KT... he's younger, bigger and a better rebounder than any big we have now... why do people say he's undersized, he's 6'10, 242lbs... that is pretty good size for a PF.... he may be a little on the soft side, but he is the best big man left on the FA market, since wilcox is resigning in seattle...

i think people are hoping that we just get one player that will solve all of our short commings... unless we get KG, which won't happen, there is no one player that is going to solve all of our deficiencies...

so i would say yes to gooden, because he is younger than our current bigmen and a good rebounder... he would be good trade bait in the future...
 
gooden is an upgrade over SAR and KT... he's younger, bigger and a better rebounder than any big we have now... why do people say he's undersized, he's 6'10, 242lbs... that is pretty good size for a PF.... he may be a little on the soft side, but he is the best big man left on the FA market, since wilcox is resigning in seattle...

i think people are hoping that we just get one player that will solve all of our short commings... unless we get KG, which won't happen, there is no one player that is going to solve all of our deficiencies...

so i would say yes to gooden, because he is younger than our current bigmen and a good rebounder... he would be good trade bait in the future...
well, as long as we havent heard anything concrete on Wilcox yet, I'm still holding out hope that we can somehow get him
 
gooden is an upgrade over SAR and KT... he's younger, bigger and a better rebounder than any big we have now... why do people say he's undersized, he's 6'10, 242lbs... that is pretty good size for a PF.... he may be a little on the soft side, but he is the best big man left on the FA market, since wilcox is resigning in seattle...

i think people are hoping that we just get one player that will solve all of our short commings... unless we get KG, which won't happen, there is no one player that is going to solve all of our deficiencies...

so i would say yes to gooden, because he is younger than our current bigmen and a good rebounder... he would be good trade bait in the future...

He'd cost us 10 million dollars over 5-6 years... he's actually more 6'8"6/9". We already have a good rebounder in KT. Like KT, Gooden's not a defensive presence (though KT can defend in the post), and not a shotblocker. We don't need anymore offense, we need defense. Gooden's not an answer to improving the interior defense, and would be getting way overpaid.

SAR's better than Gooden in that SAR has a post-game on the offensive and defensive side of the ball. Gooden's more athletic and younger, sure, but he doesn't help us defensively. SAR will also be at full strength this coming season, and we only had that SAR for a month or so.
 
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SAR's better than Gooden in that SAR has a post-game on the offensive and defensive side of the ball. Gooden's more athletic and younger, sure, but he doesn't help us defensively. SAR will also be at full strength this coming season, and we only had that SAR for a month or so.

2 months. And we sucked.

No Gooden fan am I, but its because I view him as kind of an unholy amalgram of SAR and KT and sitting right there with them as incomplete -- neither a high level starter, nor a high level roleplayer. We don't need anymore of those, and certianly not with even worse contracts. That Nene deal has really been a disaster for this whole FA period -- agents around the league need some smelling salts and a serious reality check.
 
No. Gooden doesn't seem to bring the chemistry that Petrie likes and his $$ demands up near $10M should put him out of any serious kings thinking. As someone said early, KT for Gooden straight up ok. but not at the $$ he wants.
 
KT > Gooden. KT's tougher and hustles a lot more, and Gooden would be paid 10 million a year.

Getting Gooden wouldn't do anything for us, replacing KT or not. Gooden, like KT, needs a defensive center next to him to make up for his short-comings.
 
Wasn't all or most because of SAR though.

Obviously, but that's not the test. He didn't help. Neither does Gooden.

BTW, Gooden is still probably better than KT, albeit not by enough to jump up and down about -- another solid rebounder/poor defender, but Gooden has more size/bulk and a post game.
 
Indeed, Brick.

Still like KT over Gooden. Simply because of Gooden's contract demands and good possibilities to what he'll get. Ick.
 
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I really don't like Gooden i really think that he is getting all this hype because its a weak f/a class.
 
Why is everyone down on SAR? He is a top 10 PF in the league and he will be starting next year at the PF spot be it if we still have KT or trade for Gooden or whatever. Also why do I always see when people have trade proposals to trade KT they always have the player we bring in starting and have SAR off the bench. He is too good to come off the bench.
 
Why is everyone down on SAR? He is a top 10 PF in the league and he will be starting next year at the PF spot be it if we still have KT or trade for Gooden or whatever. Also why do I always see when people have trade proposals to trade KT they always have the player we bring in starting and have SAR off the bench. He is too good to come off the bench.

Mainly because he doesn't do what the kings need, but i do agree, sar is a above avg Pf and would start on most teams that need a PF.
 
Why is everyone down on SAR? He is a top 10 PF in the league and he will be starting next year at the PF spot be it if we still have KT or trade for Gooden or whatever. Also why do I always see when people have trade proposals to trade KT they always have the player we bring in starting and have SAR off the bench. He is too good to come off the bench.

The problem has always been he's barely a "power" forward at all. And not Top 10 anymore, if he ever was. And now that we've lost Bonzi that deficiency gets even more exposed -- our OG WAS our PF.

KG
Duncan
Dirk
Brand
Amare/Marion (whoever you want to call the PF)
Bosh
Gasol
Howard
J O'Neal
Webber

The question is where does he fall amongst the great mushy 2nd class:

Sheed (most would take)
Okafor (all would take)
Boozer
Gooden
Wilcox
Harrington
Randolph
Okur (actually might be moving to center with Boozer back)
West
Murphy
Martin
Jamison (if you call him a PF)
Odom (assuming he shifts back to PF now that Radmanovic has arrived)

He would be hardpressed to cleanly unseat any of those players, although multiple platoons could develop. Hence the question isn't whether he's Top 10, its whether he's Top 20. He also would not unseat Haslem/Walker in Miami, simply because they won with that balance. He was offered a chance to more or less be Antoine Walker for them and come off the bench behind Haslem, but turned it down. He would be hardpressed to be more than a platoon player with Villanueva or Frye in NY/Mil with talented kids needing to play. Or even here, with the uber-All-Star Kenny Thomas ahead of him. He might be able to start in Chicago, although I think Mr. Intangibles, PJ Brown, might hold him off and make him a 6th man again where he would be competing for minutes with a super rook in Tyrus Thomas. He might be able to get clean heavy minute starts in Boston (although if Jefferson comes on he could get unseated), New Jersey (who should have signed him), Hawks (althoguh doubt they would want him back), and Houston. Other than that? So maybe he's 15th-25th. A walking post game, but where are the "little things"?

In any case, if we decided to slow down the offense to feed Reef, he should still be capable of being a high teen type scorer maybe. But if he doesn't rebound, block shots, clog the middle, how is that any different than Antawn Jamison?
 
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