Seems like he may go with first pick in second round?Surprising that Filipowski was never selected. He made opponents miserable more often than not. Perhaps NBA scouts do not believe his game will translate?
Before we even get to the wingspan part, Carter’s standing reach + vertical is impressive. That’s what @sactowndog is failing to acknowledge. He likes to use the “6’5” and under league” phrase when perhaps we should start using the “no jump league” in our responses to him.Interesting how it's now standing reach that matters, after telling us how important wingspan is all this time
Before we even get to the wingspan part, Carter’s standing reach + vertical is impressive. That’s what @sactowndog is failing to acknowledge. He likes to use the “6’5” and under league” phrase when perhaps we should start using the “no jump league” in our responses to him.
Is anybody saying “we have found our future starting SF in Carter?” No, I haven’t seen anybody say that. He’s best at guard but can flex up for stretches due to his length, strength, vertical, and his ability to rebound the ball. To make comments like he’s on par with Mitchell (like @sactowndog did) is just disingenuous. He has a much longer wingspan, longer standing reach, is a much better leaper, and is a much better rebounder. Carter is much much more versatile than Mitchell.
Coming back to wingspan, I would argue that wingspan is more important for guards and standing reach becomes more important for forwards/centers. Guards are predominantly defending on the perimeter. A longer wingspan really helps with things like deflections, playing the passing lanes, stripping players, disrupting ball handlers, etc.
I'm somewhat skeptical about Heurter being traded in the near-term. I would think GMs would wait and see on him until that shoulder heals and he's up and running, unless McNair gives him away for chicken feed, which I doubt.
I get this to some degree. It does feel like it would be selling low on Huerter to trade him now, as he could easily bounce back next season. Barnes, on the other hand, seems to be on a steady decline. Yes, the backcourt is crowded at the moment, but I think Huerter can swing to SF just fine. In fact, I think that would be more realistic than the proposals I keep seeing that result in Barnes slotted as backup SF. I don’t trust Brown to play him in that role!I'm somewhat skeptical about Heurter being traded in the near-term. I would think GMs would wait and see on him until that shoulder heals and he's up and running, unless McNair gives him away for chicken feed, which I doubt.
I expect Davion and HB or Huerter to be moved for a starting SF or PF (Kuzma, Hunter, Johnson or Julius Randle?) this off season.
But, if Huerter is still on the team this season, he’s going to have to get his minutes backing up the small forward spot. Our guard rotation looks set with Fox, Monk, Keon and Carter.
I expect Davion and HB or Huerter to be moved for a starting SF or PF (Kuzma, Hunter, Johnson or Julius Randle?) this off season.
But, if Huerter is still on the team this season, he’s going to have to get his minutes backing up the small forward spot. Our guard rotation looks set with Fox, Monk, Keon and Carter.
If I’m not mistaken he also said that about KeeganI find it interesting that his draft analysis of months ago that baja said Carter was his "most favorite player" in the draft, which is also what he said about Murray. That's a good sign.
You’re missing the point I made.
You’re not acknowledging the combination of standing reach + vertical. You’re missing a very important part of that equation.
I would hope that we both can agree that Ellis can handle himself at SG with his abilities and length. Considering their verticals, Carter can contest 3-3.5” higher than Ellis. That’s important to recognize.
Why are you comparing him to Barnes? Barnes is defending PFs with an abysmal 8’5.5” standing reach for his position and a ground bound game. That’s the issue. Nobody is saying we should start Carter at PF. He’s a PG/SG who can flex up to SF when we go small/play 3 guard lineups for small stretches.
I am on the record in the other draft thread saying that I think Carter was a better draft prospect than Mitchell (and McNair got him 4 picks later than where we draft Mitchell). He’s much more versatile than Mitchell (due to his length, athleticism, strength, & rebounding) and his length and athleticism give him the opportunity/potential to develop into a really strong offensive player if he puts in the work.
If I’m not mistaken he also said that about Keegan
You’re missing the point I made.
You’re not acknowledging the combination of standing reach + vertical. You’re missing a very important part of that equation.
I would hope that we both can agree that Ellis can handle himself at SG with his abilities and length. Considering their verticals, Carter can contest 3-3.5” higher than Ellis. That’s important to recognize.
Why are you comparing him to Barnes? Barnes is defending PFs with an abysmal 8’5.5” standing reach for his position and a ground bound game. That’s the issue. Nobody is saying we should start Carter at PF. He’s a PG/SG who can flex up to SF when we go small/play 3 guard lineups for small stretches.
I am on the record in the other draft thread saying that I think Carter was a better draft prospect than Mitchell (and McNair got him 4 picks later than where we draft Mitchell). He’s much more versatile than Mitchell (due to his length, athleticism, strength, & rebounding) and his length and athleticism give him the opportunity/potential to develop into a really strong offensive player if he puts in the work.
Whoops sorry. Meant to say Haliburton haha but same difference. I feel like Baja’s player evaluations match up really well with Monte’s and Baja is usually right.Yep. That's what I said. Baja does his homework on these guys, so I'll defer to him if I haven't seen them play in college (and I didn't see Carter play in college).
Whoops sorry. Meant to say Haliburton haha but same difference. I feel like Baja’s player evaluations match up really well with Monte’s and Baja is usually right.
Interesting how it's now standing reach that matters, after telling us how important wingspan is all this time
No I said length matters. Don’t put words in my mouth. Length is generally standing reach and wingspan. But some players like Barnes and Carter can have very broad shoulders which give them above average wingspan and below average standing reach.
I’m done arguing yet another BPA available to the extreme Monte pick. I’m starting the think he is in the lower echelon of Kings GM’s
If Huerter is still on the team there's also the option of starting him at SF and playing Keegan at PF. It's not my first choice, but it gives you a lot of shooting and movement in the starting lineup.
No I said length matters. Don’t put words in my mouth. Length is generally standing reach and wingspan. But some players like Barnes and Carter can have very broad shoulders which give them above average wingspan and below average standing reach.
I’m done arguing yet another BPA available to the extreme Monte pick. I’m starting the think he is in the lower echelon of Kings GM’s
No, not always. Just watch Carter’s close outs in his film.because when you close out in many cases vertical doesn’t matter. You are standing on the ground with your arms extended straight up. Yes you can jump but that makes you vulnerable to pump fakes and lean in fouls
Who said that about Mitchell? The versatility between Mitchell and Carter is very different. Just looks at the numbers.BS. Nobody is flexing up to small forward with a 8’ 2” standing reach. We heard the same BS on this board when Davion was drafted with an 8’ 0” standing reach and he struggles to guard larger 2’s let alone 3’s.
Carter said he was a point guard for a reason.
love this for Davion and the Raptors
The raptors definitely needed shootingHopefully Sasha finds some burn too