A month ago I had posted that this could be a breakout year for Greene. He always had range. He just needs to calm down and focus better to get his shots to fall. May be too much pressure to show off first 2 years. His jumpers were smooth and seem to all fall in SL so far. He might be our best outside shooter this coming season. I love his game. He's a complete 3. Can shoot treys, mid range jumper, teardrop, bank, drive, and dunk. Sometimes he overdribbles and makes it harder on himself. He needs to better use his 6'11" frame. Hard for other SF to block him. Once he learn to take advantage of his height, he's going to be a beast.
Donte Greene is our shooter!
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sc3252
Bench
Didn't we go over this same crap last year... Every time Caspi or Greene had a good game someone would post a thread about that player being so great locking that starting spot. I just don't think one game makes him a good shooter, I will wait until the regular season to determine that.
I do like Greene a lot, I just think its to soon to start making threads about it.
I do like Greene a lot, I just think its to soon to start making threads about it.
This is not based on one game of SL. I'm making a bold prediction based on potential I see in the guy and seeing his progress over time. You don't find many 6'11" guys around the league who can dribble and shoot like a guard. He's a mismatch nightmare for opposing teams. 3rd year seems to the breakout year for players with big upside (ie KMart).
ParniValjak
All-Star
I do understand the reasoning behind the comment but its not too much of a big call that Donte can be our shooter. He shot 37.7% from behind the arc last season. With more work, its not out of realm of the possibility that Donte shoots 40% or over from behind the arc in his 3rd year. He has always been a good shooter its just that his shot selection has left a lot to be desired.
Couple that with his new found hunger for defence and you have the perfect SF to pair with Reke and Cousins. Casspi's shot is a bit funky but can be very effective. Greene has always been able to shoot from long range. Improving on shot selection and practicing his shooting more should see him become one of the best 3PT shooter in the league especially with his size advatage at SF.
HighFlyingMonkey
Starter
I am fully on the Donte Greene bandwagon.
The guy looks like a 6'11 Tmac out there with his ability to create shots for himself and others off the dribble. I'm very impressed. If he can become a consistent outside shooter (he still appears to be very streaky) we've found Reke's wingman.
The guy looks like a 6'11 Tmac out there with his ability to create shots for himself and others off the dribble. I'm very impressed. If he can become a consistent outside shooter (he still appears to be very streaky) we've found Reke's wingman.
sono
Starter
taller errr... mini Durant?
I just don't see Donte being a main contributor to this team. He doesn't really do anything above average for his height other than shoot 3's. His shooting is extremely streaky and it seems like he can only score in double figures 1 out of every 6 games or so. Can't rebound and should be blocking a lot more shots than he does with the height advantage he has over the guys he guards. He's basically a very very poor mans Durant.
Casspi will turn out to be a lot better. He is a much more refined player that will end this season the way he played in the first half last year.
I hope I'm wrong about Donte but he just hasn't impressed at all outside of a few fluke games here and there.
Casspi will turn out to be a lot better. He is a much more refined player that will end this season the way he played in the first half last year.
I hope I'm wrong about Donte but he just hasn't impressed at all outside of a few fluke games here and there.
nickmcclure
Bench
I love Casspi and am excited to see his 2nd season but he's not as good as Donte plain and simple. Also, Donte's got more upside with his size and speed. Couple that with the fact that he's one of our best defensive players and you have someone that can more than contribute to this team. Again, not a knock on Casspi who I think will prove to be a good player but just like he was drafted, Donte is about a year ahead of Casspi thus far.
Bricklayer
Don't Make Me Use The Bat
Donte has the potential to be a more offensive minded Derrick McKey as long as he keeps it toned down and figures out how to fill in the gaps between Reke and Cousins. Versatile do everything guy, and if he plays within himself that 40% mark as a 3pt shooter should be attainable. Get a block a game or so out fo your SF as well, in addition to surprising ballhandling .for such a big guy. I doubt he's ever goign to be arebounder unfortunately, and seems to be following the Tim Thomas path on that one. But with all the other big board mashers we've suddenly collected that is not the conern it would be otherwise.
And for all that he also fits in as the versatile bench guy behind Casspi, I think Donte playing the high end roleplaying starter next to Reke and Cousins and Omri coming off the bench might be a more natural pairing. Omri seems to get uncomfortable if he is not a main offensive focus, which he's not going to be with Reke and Cousins in town, and those type of guys can make good bench scorers when they come in firing.
And for all that he also fits in as the versatile bench guy behind Casspi, I think Donte playing the high end roleplaying starter next to Reke and Cousins and Omri coming off the bench might be a more natural pairing. Omri seems to get uncomfortable if he is not a main offensive focus, which he's not going to be with Reke and Cousins in town, and those type of guys can make good bench scorers when they come in firing.
Donte continues to be a question for me. He is very talented. He is a mismatch for most everyone in the league. He can really handle the ball, shoot whenever he wants, dribble effectively, move well enough to be able to defend well. I think things have always come so easy for him that he has never been under the gun to develop the basketball IQ, feel and instinct for the game, when to do what and when not to, how to be a useful part of a team effort. We all knew that to start with and we had and have high hopes because it would be such a waste otherwise. I'm hopeful but I guess I'm also a doubter. Go Donte.
I thought Donte's shot was impressive. I only watched the first half last night, so I'll have to go back and watch the rest of the game. But he seemed to have trouble finishing at the rim, and even got blocked a couple of times. I'd like to see my seven foot small forward grab a few rebounds, also.
It's also worth noting that he's out there as a third year player, going against rookies and such. His confidence has to be through the roof. Let's see if that carries over to the regular season when he's playing against tougher competition.
It's also worth noting that he's out there as a third year player, going against rookies and such. His confidence has to be through the roof. Let's see if that carries over to the regular season when he's playing against tougher competition.
Boogie-havoc
Bench
Way too early to tell, I mean I know everyone waits for these summer league games, but being so drastic as in "Ok we can say Donte spot is a given" , or say "Donte is our shooter" after 2 games just isn't right... nor would it be the other way around if it happened.
It's still summer league.. let's wait for Vetrens camp, or more importantly wait to see if guys can produce like this when the real deal starts and then we can try make threads like that..
Donte looking on the right track though, how he roots for the guys when he's on the bench, how he always gives a smile or a tap on the back when someone does good and explain people where to move etc on the court... you gotta love that guy!
It's still summer league.. let's wait for Vetrens camp, or more importantly wait to see if guys can produce like this when the real deal starts and then we can try make threads like that..
Donte looking on the right track though, how he roots for the guys when he's on the bench, how he always gives a smile or a tap on the back when someone does good and explain people where to move etc on the court... you gotta love that guy!
SCKingsfan
Bench
I think it's fairly easy to identify what Donte does well and what he needs to work on at this point. He's full of potential and has improved in a number of areas the last 2 or so years - he became a better defender, but still reaches and leans far too much, fouling even shorter guys who try to draw contract on him. Continues to develop as a shooter, which is great - no complaints there beyond his shot selection sometime, as others have said. He's showing more confidence slashing to the hoop but still has to work on his balance and finish at the rim. Sometime takes the more ackward route to the rim, which showcases his athleticism but it's necessarily the most effective route. He could do more to go over and thorugh defenders, rather than always hanging to try to draw contact, especially at his size at the 3. Needs to protect the ball better when he does postup or get position down low - still gets the ball poked away far too much. Agree that he might never be beyond an adequate (and perhaps underachieving) rebounder for his size. In other words, people rave how he is long at 6'11", but he still needs a lot of work to maximize the return on his size advantage. The guy can run the floor, though, and can be an outstanding role player for us. And he is committed to keep improving his game, which is great. He may be a year or two from his potential still. I like Casspi and Donte sharing time there; they both bring something different on the floor, and I think each's strenghts will serve us at different times.
I'm most excited about having a tall, big lineup out there that can also run the floor. It's going to make for some entertaining b-ball.
iowamcnabb
Hall of Famer
Donte really looked good. He seems more comfortable and played within his game. I would like to see him avoid running in the lane and trying to create mid air. If he gets that close to the basket he is going to have to go up strong and either make the shot or get a foul. I think he is a better fit as a role player in comparison with Omri.
hammystyle
Starter
Derrick McKey is a good name. Or a young Robert Horry. Both guys had worlds of skill and ability to go with their length, and both were considered kind of disapointng in that they were not stars. (Yes Horry was considered kind of a disapointment early in his career before he started hitting big shots in the playoffs every year).
But both of these guys were longstanding playoff stalwarts because series to series they are versatile enough to match up with anyone and/or create their own mismatch. If our team goes where I think its going Donte will spend his playoff career guarding Durant, Carmelo, Kobe, and LeBron. He'll guard 4's when our big guys get in foul trouble. He'll make two or three game changing highlight plays per series be it a dunk, block or big 3. Just the perfect spoke spinning around the Tyreke and Boogie hub.
Of course, I'm not going to be upset if he does fulfill his full potential and becomes a Rashard lewis type offesnve player to go with the all-world defense.
rainmaker
Hall of Famer
Would anyone have touted Donte as our future shooter last Dec when Omri was still shooting close to 50% from 3? Ummm.... no.
Both these guys are inconsistent, and I'm sure we all hope they improve in that department. But given the constant ups and downs young players go through, and both Omri and Donte go through, how would a 2 game stretch in the LVSL prove any kind of consistency?
Now, Donte is taller, a better one on one player, getting better at handling the ball, and is stonger with the ball than Omri, and therefor should be able to get his shot off without much assistance. Donte is also a more natural shooter, all you have to look at is his stroke and arc he puts on the ball. His problem is shooting off balance. But Donte's release is beautiful, he has a lot of arc on his shot, and a high release. My guess is Donte becomes a better shooter than Omri, unless Omri fixes his shot.
Omri is a decent spot up shooter, but there is something goofy about his form. He not only has a low release, and doesn't get much arc on the ball, but he has a little bit of a hitch on his shot. His FT's as well. IMO, until he fixes those things, consistency with FG% will always be an issue,although he wouldn't be the first player to shoot a high % with not so good form. But from a mechanical standpoint, mixed with size and athletic ability, Donte has all the tools at this point to be the better of the two.
Both these guys are inconsistent, and I'm sure we all hope they improve in that department. But given the constant ups and downs young players go through, and both Omri and Donte go through, how would a 2 game stretch in the LVSL prove any kind of consistency?
Now, Donte is taller, a better one on one player, getting better at handling the ball, and is stonger with the ball than Omri, and therefor should be able to get his shot off without much assistance. Donte is also a more natural shooter, all you have to look at is his stroke and arc he puts on the ball. His problem is shooting off balance. But Donte's release is beautiful, he has a lot of arc on his shot, and a high release. My guess is Donte becomes a better shooter than Omri, unless Omri fixes his shot.
Omri is a decent spot up shooter, but there is something goofy about his form. He not only has a low release, and doesn't get much arc on the ball, but he has a little bit of a hitch on his shot. His FT's as well. IMO, until he fixes those things, consistency with FG% will always be an issue,although he wouldn't be the first player to shoot a high % with not so good form. But from a mechanical standpoint, mixed with size and athletic ability, Donte has all the tools at this point to be the better of the two.
