Domantas Sabonis Any Questions?

Maybe some1 didnt see - few days ago NBA realeased video with Sabonis and Fox highlights:
30 MIN of De'Aaron Fox & Domantas Sabonis Top Plays So Far! | 2022-23 Season

Have a seat and take a pleasure :)

I forget which talking media outlet I stumbled across yesterday, but they listed their ”top 10 duos in the NBA”.

Fox and the Ox weren’t on it.

IIRC Steph and Klay were #1 and Giannis and Drue #3.

Some other I recall were:

Joel Embiid and James Harden
Jason Tatum and Jaylen Brown
Kyrie and #77
KD and Devin Booker
Kawhi and PG3
LBJ and AD

But …

Donovan Mitchell and Darius Garland?
Jimmy Butler and Bam Adebayo?
 
They were going to do one on the Lakers Lebron and Westbrook before the trade but they gave up on the idea.
They figured nobody would watch 29 1/2 minutes of commercials before getting to the 30 seconds of highlights.
 
Maybe some1 didnt see - few days ago NBA realeased video with Sabonis and Fox highlights:
30 MIN of De'Aaron Fox & Domantas Sabonis Top Plays So Far! | 2022-23 Season

Have a seat and take a pleasure :)

30 minutes, plus (re-winded couple times :) ) i sat and watch it with the happy, sheepish smile on my face.
Fox - it's like generation 5 fighter jet. Just taking from the aircraft carrier, hanging in the air forever and blasting everything ever with precision or with nasty boom. Intercepts everything, assists ground troops.
Domas - like a modern tank. Modern tank is a jet engine inserted into 70 tones of steel. Goes through the obstacles, destroys targets. Assists and protects infantry.
It's good that they both wear the same uniform. They both are wired with the state of the art software.
Enemy fights dirty and doesn't comply with the Geneva convention - big mistake :) That just makes these two machines to operate on the even higher level.
 
The floor for a bad Sabonis game is literally 10, 8 and 3. The guy is just insanely good and consistent.
Great observation. His game is basically bulletproof. Even when he might have a floor game like that - you know that 100% of the time he's setting great screens, making the right passes, not stopping the ball, etc. On his worst nights he's not taking the ship down with him and will generally find ways to get other guys going. That's not the case with certain guard or wing type superstars - when they have a bad night, it can throw a wrench into the whole offense.
 
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I love Sabonis but I’m going to provide a little balance here since kb is gone.

The Sabonis/Jokic archetype of skilled offensive big who has defensive weaknesses has not yet proven to be successful in the playoffs. It will be interesting as both Sabonis and Jokic will be playing.

we shall see what happens…..
 
I love Sabonis but I’m going to provide a little balance here since kb is gone.

The Sabonis/Jokic archetype of skilled offensive big who has defensive weaknesses has not yet proven to be successful in the playoffs. It will be interesting as both Sabonis and Jokic will be playing.

we shall see what happens…..
You can make this same argument about Joel Embiid too, who is one of the best defensive players in the NBA, but has done absolutely nothing in the playoffs. With significantly better supporting casts and not having to get through the Warriors to make the finals. Giannis broke through, but he also has the benefit of sharing the court with one of the best defensive guards (Jrue Holiday) and best defensive bigs (Brook Lopez) next to him on the floor. So while he's an incredible defensive player, he certainly had help to get there.

I think we're going to have to start adjusting our priors a bit on what can win in the NBA with the Warriors finally starting to slow down a bit. They've just had a stranglehold on the NBA for the last 8 years that really no one was able to solve.
 
You can make this same argument about Joel Embiid too, who is one of the best defensive players in the NBA, but has done absolutely nothing in the playoffs. With significantly better supporting casts and not having to get through the Warriors to make the finals. Giannis broke through, but he also has the benefit of sharing the court with one of the best defensive guards (Jrue Holiday) and best defensive bigs (Brook Lopez) next to him on the floor. So while he's an incredible defensive player, he certainly had help to get there.

I think we're going to have to start adjusting our priors a bit on what can win in the NBA with the Warriors finally starting to slow down a bit. They've just had a stranglehold on the NBA for the last 8 years that really no one was able to solve.
we shall see….. lots of smart NBA people give the Kings no chance in the play-offs. A lot of that belief is based on lack of rim protection. I don’t want it to be true but your head is in the sand if you deny it’s there.
 
we shall see….. lots of smart NBA people give the Kings no chance in the play-offs. A lot of that belief is based on lack of rim protection. I don’t want it to be true but your head is in the sand if you deny it’s there.
likewise, lots of "smart" NBA people said the Kings would be lucky if they were competing for a play-in spot this season. Lots of "smart" NBA people said we would fade out by now and give way to the usual western conference powerhouses. We were told we'd fall to the play-in after the trade deadline and have responded going 6-1, while a bunch of other west teams have crumbled around us. I don't think anyone is an absolute lock to win a west playoff series outside of DEN, but we're going to be an incredibly difficult out. This roster has the best ORtg of all-time! We're putting up one of the best offensive seasons ever in NBA history!

The defense is a real issue, but we aren't supposed to be in this spot anyway. We're a year or 2 ahead of schedule and I don't think anyone considers this roster the "final form" of the roster build. The core is all young enough where there's still realistic internal growth possible in addition to Monte making more moves. And just getting more comfortable in Brown's system with another off-season/training camp+ a year of experience playing together.

Basically, before I need to see if/how Domas "struggles" in the playoffs before I just write him off and say he can't do it. Let's get the data points of a playoff series or two before making those assumptions. The Kings have debunked their assumptions all year long and more. At this point, they've earned our benefit of the doubt.
 
we shall see….. lots of smart NBA people give the Kings no chance in the play-offs. A lot of that belief is based on...
With all due respect... nothing rational.

Not saying I have any inside knowledge... but people underestimate the degree to which NBA punditry is like high school. Meaning - going along with the crowd and not wanting to be laughed at. It may seem petty - but it's simple human behavior. Right now, still (but not much longer), there is a strong negative social cost to predicting success for the Kings. So people literally make up reasons why they won't succeed and label it "analysis".

The Kings imo also have a hidden advantage that doesn't show up on stat sheets - the coaching staff. Let's be honest it's been stellar this year, and not just because of the big turnaround. One indication of that is that we are an excellent third quarter team. Another is that we are a great crunch time team. That requires two high level coaching skills: in-game adjustments, and game management (crunch time). These skills become even more important during the playoffs - within a series.

I wouldn't underestimate the Kings (of course) - and I also wouldn't count them out based on just one or two criteria. The game has changed much in just the past five years. My gut says this year will be very unpredictable in terms of who will find success in the playoffs (it already has been during the season) - and there's no reason per se at this point that we can't be one of those teams.

We also have my nonna's LASAGNA. And nobody can compete with that.
 
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I am not going to suggest the Kings are a good defensive team, but we are a top tier end-game defensive team and we have the best clutch player in the league right now.

All the Kings have to do is enter the final 6 minutes or so within ~5 points and I'll take them 7/10 times. Bodes well for a 7 game series too, as we have played extremely well on the backend of those 2 game miniseries thus far. Curious how it would translate over 4+.
 
I love Sabonis but I’m going to provide a little balance here since kb is gone.

The Sabonis/Jokic archetype of skilled offensive big who has defensive weaknesses has not yet proven to be successful in the playoffs. It will be interesting as both Sabonis and Jokic will be playing.

we shall see what happens…..
Our goal this year at best, is probably WCF. Being realistic, if we can make it out of the first round, that'd be a huge win. I don't think Jokic's lack of success has anything to do with Domas' future success. I think it'll be up to Monte McNair to try and bring personnel in to makeup for Sabonis' short comings. Sabonis is our worst defender(lol another user got upset at me saying this) and it's going to be a tough cover. He can't defend the perimeter and he doesn't protect the rim. The funniest thing is that people keep saying someone like Myles Turner would be the perfect fit with Domas... but you can ask any Pacer fan, the pairing never worked. It was like Fox-Haliburton...

I think Sabonis is best at the 5. It means our PF needs to be switchable on the perimeter AND provide rim protection AND be able to shoot 3s. I think PJ Washington could be a good RFA we target.. he kinda checks the boxes and might be the closest attainable piece.