Big Cuz 15
All-Star
lets say in 2-3 years... he decides to give the nba anothr crack. do we still hold his rights? really sucks that he already left.
do we still hold monia's rights if he decides to come back?
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Circa_1985_Fan
All-Star
yes, for the remainder of his contract, at least.
bibbinator
Bench
I was thinking about that too.
It would seem to me that any NBA player can walk away from their contract at just about any time, provided they leave the NBA and give up the money
I would guess he couldn't come back to another team until the contract time
was up, but don't know that for sure.
With the glut at his positions(s) Monia may have figured he was better off getting a starter role in Europe than riding the pine with Sac, or waiting for them to trade him. Bonzi's return would hurt Monia's floor time.
It would seem to me that any NBA player can walk away from their contract at just about any time, provided they leave the NBA and give up the money
I would guess he couldn't come back to another team until the contract time
was up, but don't know that for sure.
With the glut at his positions(s) Monia may have figured he was better off getting a starter role in Europe than riding the pine with Sac, or waiting for them to trade him. Bonzi's return would hurt Monia's floor time.
BigSong
Bench
looks like he signed a multi year contract in july of '05, so if it was for 3 years he could be back next year.maybe.
they should do it like in soccer where you just loan out players and then bring them back.
ockingsfan
Starter
when did monia decide to leave???... a little info here please... and does he come off our salary cap figure???
I heard about it on June 30, and it was pretty much confirmed in a bunch of other threads, too.
http://www.kingsfans.com/forums/showthread.php?t=13650
http://www.kingsfans.com/forums/showthread.php?t=13650
Big Cuz 15
All-Star
yes, i care. young prospect that can be a potential bargaining chip.
"basketball wise id much rather have skinner than potapenko and monia"
well we did give skinner up for him didn't we? we end up with the short end of the stick. gotta figure we'd get something for him.
I care about his contract; are we on the hook to pay it or not?
Bricklayer
Don't Make Me Use The Bat
Monia is a SF, Douby a...well hopefully for his sake a PG. The real minutes problems for Monia are Kevin + Cisco + Bonzi if he returns.
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HndsmCelt
Hall of Famer
This should be not toomuch different than owning draft rights. As long as Monia does NOT play in the NBA the Kings should not have to pay him. IF he should decide to come back and play in the US any team that wanted him would have to buy his contract out from the Kings. I am not sure if that conract would "time out" like draft rigts do after several years.
Well, I know that's how it is if the player *never* plays in the NBA (like Bodiroga), but I'm not sure that's how it works if they have, and are still under contract. I mean, we know that injured players still get paid, even if they don't play a minute of NBA ball that season... Is there any precedent on non-injured players who have already played part of their contract and then sit the rest out?
Bricklayer
Don't Make Me Use The Bat
Well since he would effectively be in violation of his NBA contract I can only assume that he came to the team and asked to be released from it. Not sure what that does to our rights, but I would imagine that means we don't owe him any money -- he basically quit, wasn't fired.
ockingsfan
Starter
does monia salary still count against the kings salary cap, even if he plays in europe?... that would suck, because that would take another million or so off the figure to get under the luxury tax...
maybe the kings are playing with less money in the bonzi situation, since they made it clear they intend to stay under the luxury tax...
maybe the kings are playing with less money in the bonzi situation, since they made it clear they intend to stay under the luxury tax...
whozit
Starter
I think it was posted earlier that he isn't expected back but hasn't been released "yet." I think the Kings may be holding off on releasing him to possibly use that salary in a trade with another team, with the other team being able to shed his salary after receiving a token buyout. It's relatively a small amount in comparisons to normal salaries but it might still be helpful as a added incentive.
Bricklayer
Don't Make Me Use The Bat
It was announced he was waived. He's completely gone.
SacTownKid
Hall of Famer
Good a roster spot for Justin Williams or Amundson just opened up.
Next on the to do list is waive Jason Hart so we can add them both.
Next on the to do list is waive Jason Hart so we can add them both.
Uh, he wasn't taking up a roster sot - he already left to play in Europe.
CruzDude
Senior Member sharing a brew with bajaden
Our current mid-summer roster is 16 slots with 3 non-guaranteed: Amundson, Pooh and Williams. CBA mandates minimum 13 on active roster with maximum 15 including injured and NBDL guys.
Kings mid-summer Roster 28-Jul-06
22 Louis Amundson F 6-9 225 UNLV
93 Ron Artest F/G 6-7 260 St. John’s
8 Quincy Douby G 6-3 175 Rutgers
32 Francisco Garcia G/F 6-7 195 Louisville
44 Eugene “Pooh” Jeter G 5-11 175 Portland
23 Kevin Martin G 6-7 185 Western Carolina
7 Ronnie Price G 6-2 190 Utah Valley State
40 Justin Williams C 6-10 225 Wyoming
3 Shareef Abudur-Rahim F 6-9
10 Mike Bibby G 6-2
5 Jason Hart G 6-3
52 Brad Miller C 7-0
20 Vitaly Potapenko C 6-10
9 Kenny Thomas F 6-7
34 Corliss Willaimson F 6-6
XX John Salmons F 6-6 207 Miami (4th yr)
Kings mid-summer Roster 28-Jul-06
22 Louis Amundson F 6-9 225 UNLV
93 Ron Artest F/G 6-7 260 St. John’s
8 Quincy Douby G 6-3 175 Rutgers
32 Francisco Garcia G/F 6-7 195 Louisville
44 Eugene “Pooh” Jeter G 5-11 175 Portland
23 Kevin Martin G 6-7 185 Western Carolina
7 Ronnie Price G 6-2 190 Utah Valley State
40 Justin Williams C 6-10 225 Wyoming
3 Shareef Abudur-Rahim F 6-9
10 Mike Bibby G 6-2
5 Jason Hart G 6-3
52 Brad Miller C 7-0
20 Vitaly Potapenko C 6-10
9 Kenny Thomas F 6-7
34 Corliss Willaimson F 6-6
XX John Salmons F 6-6 207 Miami (4th yr)
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Bricklayer
Don't Make Me Use The Bat
Which interestingly would put us in the postion of not being able to sign another FA, or to keep the summer league guys, unless we waive or trade some of the random bodies we've got stacked up *** deep to a tall indian.
Sptsjunkie
Starter
They just posted this article on realgm.com, it doesn't completely answer your question, $1 million off the books doesn't necessarily mean off our "salary cap / LT" money, so take it for what it's worth:
Monia is gone -- The Kings requested waivers on small forward Sergei Monia, who decided to play in Europe. The 23-year-old came to Sacramento from Portland in a Feb. 23 trade and played in only three games. His departure will clear about $1 million off the Kings' books.
Sptsjunkie
Starter
We still have spots available, someone like Williams or Pooh could be Developmental League fodder or waived, not all of them have guarenteed contracts for the regular season.
ParniValjak
All-Star
You've got Garcia and Price twice so that would say we have 16 players on the roster ATM.
ParniValjak
All-Star
I can see that trade happening but I can't see it happening before the trade deadline.
Ryle
Starter
I don't think they will be combined together because in order to get that done we would probably have to take a big contract back with a player the other team is probably regretting signing to that contract.....not exactly a good deal.
CruzDude
Senior Member sharing a brew with bajaden
Good eyes. thanks. have corrected. So 16 with 3 non-guaranteed. Does leave some wiggle room.
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