Desert Island Music Album Draft 2013 - draft complete

Should we extend the draft to 25 picks?


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With the two hundred fourteenth pick, Mr. Slim Citrus selects:









Soundgarden, Superunknown (1994)

I've worked out that I have room on my island for one more rock album, and since Löwenherz got me for Tragic Kingdom (and yes, I know it's a little bit of a stretch to refer to TK as a "rock" album; back up off me), I'm going with the next man up. I'd first become aware of this album because of Black Hole Sun, and had a chance to hear it at a listening station at Tower Records. The grunge subgenre isn't really my bag, so I was surprised by how solid I thought the album was, all the way through; it's been holding down the rock portion of my CD collection since the mid-nineties.

The album enjoyed tremendous success, commercially, peaking at Number One on the Billboard 200, and was certified 5x Platinum. It spawned five Top 20 singles (although my personal favorite, Limo Wreck, is not among them), including the chart-topping Black Hole Sun, and went 2-for-4 at the 1995 Grammys, including Best Hard Rock Performance, for Black Hole Sun (cite: Wikipedia).
Now you've done it!!! ...
 

Bricklayer

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Ok, for this pick I'm going to take my second live album in 3 picks, which is rare for me since I typically don't even like live albums. In fact in this case I don't even own this album, but it allows me to stay within the rules while somewhat duplicating a "Best Of" album for this particular artist that I once did play far too much:

Nine Tonight (Live) - Bob Seger & The Silver Bullet Band (1981)



Back during my first semester at Penn when I was torturing my death metal dormmate with 10,000 Maniacs, this was the other album I was driving him up the wall with. Ok, that's not exactly true. I've never owned this album. But I owned a Bob Seger Best of CD with all the same hits as this rather excellent live album (Seger appears to be one of those artists who could really duplicate his studio sound live), and for some reason, maybe just because it was fun pissing him off, I got addicted to it and played it again and again until I knew the songs by heart. As did he. :p Never have quite figured out where Seger fits in the pantheon of classic rock/Americana type artists. He often seems overlooked and may have peaked a couple of years too late and gotten a little too much smooth in his sound to be taken as seriously as some. I may even be uncool for liking his stuff, not sure. But he was a big artist there in the late 70s/early 80s, and one way or another, I still to this day like his stuff both uptempo and down. Lot of soul and a great storyteller.

P.S. I am going to specify the original release of this live album, as a 2011 remastering of it apparently added a single studio "bonus track" which I believe would cause it to fall outside the rules.


Also:
Night Moves: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bqwfaxYAH5o
 
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pdxKingsFan

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According to wikipedia that Bob Seger album was recorded over two performances in Detroit and Boston, I thought that was a deal breaker? Had to be one night only?
 
with he eighth pick in the fourteenth round of the 2013 Desert Island Music Draft, i select...

Fugazi - Repeater (04/19/90):



01 Turnover
02 Repeater
03 Brendan #1
04 Merchandise
05 Blueprint
06 Sieve-Fisted Find
07 Greed
08 Two Beats Off
09 Styrofoam
10 Reprovisional
11 Shut the Door

Genre: post-hardcore, punk, noise rock

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Repeater_(album)


after making a great many obscure picks during the thirteen rounds of this draft, i figured it's time to get a bit more populist up in here. once again, there's not a particularly dramatic personal narrative to accompany this album. it was just another important discovery in a musical journey that has seen me ping pong across a host of compelling genres. i'm not even sure how best to introduce a band like Fugazi. at the outset, they were just noisy kids in the garages of Washington, D.C., but their particular brand of noise would eventually reach a milestone with Repeater. it's the album that solidified the D.C. hardcore scene as a national underground phenomenon. it presaged the kind of alternative rock that Nirvana would bring to the mainstream's attention. but a staunch commitment to their independent label didn't stop Fugazi from selling a couple million copies of this record. their straight edge punk ethos was and continues to be a tremendous influence on artists who make heavy, guitar-driven music. i suggest you just listen to the riff in "Turnover" and decide for yourselves...
 
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Bricklayer

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According to wikipedia that Bob Seger album was recorded over two performances in Detroit and Boston, I thought that was a deal breaker? Had to be one night only?
Hmm, not that I know of. Went back and checked the original draft rules, and wasn't in there. I suppose there could have been a ruling at some point about that, but I don't remember anything off the top of my head. We did have one ruling about a mostly live album with some studio tracks tacked on, which is why I specified the original release of this one to avoid the remastered version's inclusion of a studio track. Don't remember anything about the live being all one night though.
 
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Hmm, not that I know of. Went back and checked the original draft rules, and wasn't in there. I suppose there could have been a ruling at some point about that, but I don't remember anything off the top of my head. We did have one ruling about a mostly live album with some studio tracks tacked on, which is why I specified the original release of this one to avoid the remastered version's inclusion of a studio track. Don't remember anything about the live being all one night though.
Unfortunately, pdxKingsfan is right. I've answered this question via PMs but may not have posted it on the board. I think I actually went back to the original draft to see if the situation had occurred there. I didn't realize this Bob Seger album was recorded at different times. That takes it out of the "Live" category and into the compilation. Sorry.

EDIT: I've added a note2 to the rules to address this issue.
 
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For my next pick I need a fun album, so I will select:

The Aquabats! - Charge!! - 2005

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So, let's see... Do I like Superheroes? Check!
Do I like lots of uptempo fun and funny music? Check!
Do I like it when bands overuse exclamation points? Check!

Check out this album!
"Now, Stand Back for Your Own Safety!"
"Fashion Zombies!" - Awesome song, video below
"Stuck in a Movie!" -A classic
"Tiger Rider vs. the Time Sprinkler!" - Name says it all
"Nerd Alert!" - Hilarity! enjoying the finer points of being a nerd
"Plastic Lips!" - yuck
"Look at Me (I'm a Winner)!" - I will play this song after the voting is over (no doubt)
"Hot Summer Nights (Won't Last Forever)!" A song of teen love and rejection, hilarious!
"Meltdown!" - ahh yeah!
"Mechanical Ape!" who can escape?
"Demolition Rickshaw!"
"Waterslides!" - more people should write songs about waterslides... this is actually, a fantastic track, albeit different than the rest of the album
"Awesome Forces!"


Love this album! Love of fun, you can sing along, outstading...


Also, watch this video, it's funny
 
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Bricklayer

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Unfortunately, pdxKingsfan is right. I've answered this question via PMs but may not have posted it on the board. I think I actually went back to the original draft to see if the situation had occurred there. I didn't realize this Bob Seger album was recorded at different times. That takes it out of the "Live" category and into the compilation. Sorry.

EDIT: I've added a note2 to the rules to address this issue.
Well phooey.

Also BTW something I think that should be maybe revisisted in future -- on a suspicion I just went and checked something at wiki, and just running through the 10 highest rated live albums of all time (by Rolling Stone), 8 of the 10 highest rated live albums of all time were recorded on more than 1 night and would end up disallowed under that rule.

Obviously if others have been disallowed in this draft we can't change the rule midstream, but my general impression (and live albums are not my thing so I could be wrong) is that recording over multiple nights is largely standard.
 

VF21

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Well phooey.

Also BTW something I think that should be maybe revisisted in future -- on a suspicion I just went and checked something at wiki, and just running through the 10 highest rated live albums of all time (by Rolling Stone), 8 of the 10 highest rated live albums of all time were recorded on more than 1 night and would end up disallowed under that rule.

Obviously if others have been disallowed in this draft we can't change the rule midstream, but my general impression (and live albums are not my thing so I could be wrong) is that recording over multiple nights is largely standard.
I actually agree. KG4 and I talked about this while on vacation and I'd like to see the next album draft more encompassing, including pretty much anything pressed on vinyl or released on CD. We talked about limiting things such as box sets or anthologies, but other than that just let it flow. The allowance of live albums is just a way to get around "greatest hits" anyway, so I'd favor removing that particular restriction. I have told three other people via PMs who wanted a ruling ahead of time on their next pick that a live album could not be recorded over multiple nights or events, though, so I have to remain consistent in that regard.

EDIT: The only downside to allowing "greatest hit" albums is that we'd miss out on the opportunity to discover the "deep cuts" of artists whose works we may not really be familiar with.
 
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pdxKingsFan

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I wasn't posting to be a ninny, but actually I really like how greatest hits and boxed sets are not included in these drafts (and we did do a draft of greatest hits and boxed sets as an immediate follow up to the original version of this draft).

ETA: Also - I think the main reason for not including them is so multiple people don't get the same crack at the same material. If I draft Thriller because of Thriller and Beat It, it kind of stinks that someone else could draft a greatest hits album with those two tracks too. Also 4 other people could also take different MJ greatest hits albums that also had those tracks. Pretty soon everyone starts to look the same.
 
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pdxKingsFan

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Obviously if others have been disallowed in this draft we can't change the rule midstream, but my general impression (and live albums are not my thing so I could be wrong) is that recording over multiple nights is largely standard.
Correct - also they are routinely overdubbed in the studio to fix live hiccups. Essentially they are greatest hits albums.
 

Bricklayer

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Okay, so replacing my Seger pick is not a different Seger (like many classic rock types he cranked out a lot of albums in a short period of time, and scattered two or three hits per album, so have to figure if that's worth it). Instead, with that out it definitely makes room for this one:

The End of the Innocence - Don Henley - 1989



I have been trying not to repeat too many of my earlier picks, and so I tagged this album specifically to replace a certain singer/songwriter thread that runs through my musical tastes. Its a flawed album in the way that I find most albums flawed (a handful of strong songs, and then filler), but its flaws work in this setting -- it has 4 GREAT singer/songwriter songs on it IMO, and while I never particularly liked the uptempo attempts filling out the rest of the album, The End of the Innocence/The Last Worthless Evening (favorite)/New York Minute/The Heart of the Matter are still strong rotation songs for me 20 years later.

P.S. Would love to provide a youtube, but Henley appears to be one of those older artists who likes shooting himself in the foot and forgoing the free publicity of having his music out there.

[video]http://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=...F58501DEFFA7CA[/video]
 
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Researching this draft I stumbled upon a youtube clip from a documentary film entitled It Might Get Loud. I am young enough to not remember Jimmy Page for his early works, but I have definitely gained a respectful appreciation for his guitar wizardry over the years. The film is a jam session between Jimmy Page, The Edge (of U2 fame), and this guy...Jack White. In my musical ignorance my first question was, so who is this Jack White guy? Stumbling through his works I discovered his band, the White Stripes, and came to a very important conclusion. I LIKE THE WHITE STRIPES! Awesome punk/grunge rock mixed with melancholy vocal ballads and rhythmic bass lines played from an electric guitar. Really great stuff! Their 4th album is their best selling, and most critically acclaimed, and I'm taking it with me to my island. With my 14th selection, I choose:

The White Stripes - Elephant - 2003




Track List:
1. Seven Nation Army - 3:52
2. Black Math - 3:04
3. There's No Home For You Here - 3:44
4. I Just Don't Know What to Do With Myself - 2:46
5. In the Cold, Cold Night - 2:58
6. I Want to Be the Boy to Warm Your Mother's Heart - 3:21
7. You've Got Her in Your Pocket - 3:40
8. Ball and Biscuit - 7:19
9. The Hardest Button to Button - 3:32
10. Little Acorns - 4:09
11. Hypnotize - 1:48
12. The Air Near My Fingers - 3:40
13. Girl, You Have No Faith in Medicine - 3:18
14. Well It's True That We Love One Another - 2:43

More: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elephant_(album)
 
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I wasn't posting to be a ninny, but actually I really like how greatest hits and boxed sets are not included in these drafts (and we did do a draft of greatest hits and boxed sets as an immediate follow up to the original version of this draft).

ETA: Also - I think the main reason for not including them is so multiple people don't get the same crack at the same material. If I draft Thriller because of Thriller and Beat It, it kind of stinks that someone else could draft a greatest hits album with those two tracks too. Also 4 other people could also take different MJ greatest hits albums that also had those tracks. Pretty soon everyone starts to look the same.
This.

Also, if it makes a difference, I'd be up for another try at my alternate music draft one of these summers.
 
Fiona Apple is amazing and I would have never learned that had I not entered this draft and actually bothered to listen to the songs Gadget posted when she picked The Idler Wheel. I could not believe every song I played, one after the other, I liked better than the one before it. By the time I'd finished the whole album, I was hooked.
Welcome to the club. And if you ever get a chance to see her live, you should do so. I saw her at the House of Blues here in New Orleans last September and it was instantly one of my very favorite concert experiences.
 
Welcome to the club. And if you ever get a chance to see her live, you should do so. I saw her at the House of Blues here in New Orleans last September and it was instantly one of my very favorite concert experiences.
Thanks for getting me in.

I've actually been looking into catching one of her shows. I'm fortunate enough to be sprinting distance to LA and her apparent frequent haunt Club Largo. Been checking for upcoming dates, but no luck so far (assuming she's on indefinite hiatus) If you happen to catch wind of her performing here in SoCal, I'd be grateful for a PM.
 
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I am going to have to go with some more old school rap. There were several albums that were mainstays of my teenage years and this was one of them. When you say Washington state not a lot of people think of rap, but the fact is that they had some players in the early years of hip hop...

Sir Mix-a-Lot - Swass
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This was the song that got me hooked on Mix, I grabbed the Godzilla remix, who can top that????


Wiki - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sir_Mix-a-Lot
 
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I am going to have to go with some more old school rap. There were several albums that were mainstays of my teenage years and this was one of them. When you say Washington state not a lot of people think of rap, but the fact is that they had some players in the early years of hip hop...

Sir Mix-a-Lot - Swass
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This was the song that got me hooked on Mix, I grabbed the Godzilla remix, who can top that????


Wiki - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sir_Mix-a-Lot

Wow! Great pick! This album is seared into my soul I have listened to it so many times. I remember when my brother bought Swass on CD for cruising in his teal I-Rock Z...we were so swass. Just a great rap album. I will go so far as to say, this is the funniest and most fun rap album of all time... and is so fun to cruise to.
 
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VF21

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Reminder: Please do not discuss artists/albums, etc. that have not yet been selected and might be on someone's list for a future pick. Thanks. :)
 
Hey all.

The War LP - Waajeed - 2007



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Waajeed is an alumni of Slum Village, one half of the platinum pied pipers, and the founder of Bling47. He is also one of my favourite artists, and no doubt I have wasted more time than necessary reading his liner notes and digging around for his interviews on the Internet.

This album was a significant shift from Triple P, and was described as a deceleration of war as well as the beginning of a new era. It's pretty grimy and listening all the way through allows you to feel the trouble gone to in crafting the album...

Video coming...
 
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again im out all day so this will be updated :(

I pick

Biffy Clyro - Only Revolutions - 2009

Scottish rockers are cool!! This album is alot more mainstream then their others and reached new height for the band. I first heard of them not to long ago when they were announced as headlining a festival i am going to this year. I downloaded the album minuets later and thought they were great! I would definitely take this album onto the island


Full Album: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vre24cZmMUM&list=PL4BC115CA8746823F

And my Favorite (but there all cool)


please if you haven't heard of them, check them out!

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VF21

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With this pick, I'm going to grab another album from the seventies. This one features one of those songs you can truly name in three notes or less. There's no way you can listen to this without turning the volume all the way up. I had a 1968 Camaro SS when this album came out and I think it got more playing time than almost any other cassette tape I owned.



Little Queen - Heart -1977

The song I'm talking about is:


From wikipedia:

On December 26, 2012 CBS televised the annual Kennedy Center Honors which recognizes artists for their lifetime contributions to American culture through the performing arts.[81] Ann and Nancy Wilson were asked to perform at the event in tribute to Led Zeppelin. The Wilson sisters, along with Jason Bonham (son of the late Led Zeppelin drummer John Bonham) performed a version of Zeppelin's signature tune "Stairway to Heaven" complete with an orchestra and two choirs. Their rendition of "Stairway" earned a standing ovation from the crowd and tears of joy from Robert Plant.

Here's a link to that performance: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mf2O3OAQjng
 
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