Desert Island Music Album Draft 2013 - draft complete

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Right my next pick is one i feel is going to be stolen if i dont take it soon.... hopefully the other album i want isnt stolen before my next pick :(

This is another quality album with some fantastic singles.... another one written before i was born too lol

Right so im so excited to pick Kate Bush - Hounds of Love :D
Fantastic pick!
 
OK - I have noticed an extreme shortage of Gangsta Rap, a trent that is about to end.
When i first heard these guys i was 16 and thought i was a little thug (turns out i was not). I remember actually having this album on my stereo system at home. While i was out, my parents came into my room and turned on the system so my Mom could hear what the new setup sounded like. As it turned out, I had turned off the set right at the beginning of Dopeman, so when they turned it back on, well, if any of you know how that song starts out... it wasnt good. So when i got home my mom told me never to bring that kind of garbage into the house and that they had thown my record away. My Dad secretly told me tha record was in the garage but i had to keep it at "another location". Dad's can be cool like that.

Anyway...

N.W.A - Straight Outta Compton

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Here is the UNEDITED EXPLICIT video for Straight out of Compton. If you are at work or are not comfortable with the language or theme of the song, beware.

and Wiki http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/N.W.A.

EDIT: This is still a family-friendly board. For that reason, I have removed the clip. - VF21

LOOK AT THAT, THE MAN IS STILL AFTER NWA!!!!!!
Makes you wonder if parents still do this sort of thing... I know I would...
 

VF21

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Sorry for the delay. I was down in the valley all morning and just got home. Another one of those days where I'm incredibly glad to be living at 3700 ft. elevation when the temperature right now is 78 degrees...

With my next pick, I'm grabbing one of my favorite albums on my playlist.

Supernatural - Santana - 1999



This album introduced me to Rob Thomas, Everlast and The Product G&B. For someone whose musical tastes are firmly rooted in the 60s, 70s and early 80s, this was and is a revelation.

Here's my favorite cut from the album:


There are other albums that I probably should have grabbed sooner, but every song on this one is worth listening to on my island.
 
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Sorry everyone for holding up the draft. Long work day and then slipped home just long enough to see us pick McLemore.. and out the door again until just about 30 minutes ago.

Anyways, both picks upcoming.
 
To end Round 8, I select...

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Jay-Z - Jay-Z: Unplugged

This is one of my favorite hip hop albums of all time. Plain and simple. There is just something about Hip Hop with a live band and this performance executes it perfectly. Perfect mix of soul, R&B and rap. I might as well be picking this for the band in the show as well. Hint: They're amazing and worth picking on their own. ;)

Anyways, I've been a fan of Jay Z since Hard Knock Life and loved every album of his since. Especially, his stuff in the early part of the 2000s. Back in 01, this was right in the center of my everyday playlist and still remains a favorite.

More..

Here's a video of the whole show... If you have 40 minutes - it's worth a watch. Warning for Minor Language.

 
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With the first pick of Round 9,

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Underoath - They're Only Chasing Safety

Another of those picks that might be safe forever but just feels right to make here. They're Only Chasing Safety is one of my favorite albums for a number of reasons, but one of the biggest reasons I'm picking this is because of the season of life that it represents for me. When I discovered this album and band back in 2005, I was entering into a very brand new era of life - new friends, new job, new places, etc. It was also the season of life that catapulted me to where I am today.

On top of that, the entire playlist is just sick. This album has been on repeat for me for the last 8 years. My favorites are below the link.

More..


Other videos:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G-Xgxeal328

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TOdfV1EjUgg
 
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VF21

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One of my favorite shows is Deadliest Catch, so this album pops into my mind every single week. With my pick for round 9, I'm selecting a band that has the ability to always entertain.



Slippery When Wet - Bon Jovi - 1986

I like all the songs on this album, but I'm especially fond of this one:

 
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Bricklayer

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One of my favorite shows is Deadliest Catch, so this album pops into my mind every single week. With my pick for round 9, I'm selecting a band that has the ability to always entertain.



Slippery When Wet - Bon Jovi - 1986

I like all the songs on this album, but I'm especially fond of this one:

If that continued to slip I was going to eventually take it, and hate myself in the morning when I did so. :p

Serious cheese, but fun cheese. When I first noticed it falling I went back and scanned through the tracks and realized cheesy or not, there were at least half a dozen songs on it I liked. There was a reason they outlived that era when 90% of their fellows did not.
 
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Hey all.

I select Electric Wire Hustle. By Electric Wire Hustle. 2010.
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The group is fromWellington in NZ and is super impressive. Maria TK (the singer) has an amazing voice and cannot help but leak emotion. Brilliant!

Here is the song tomboy

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Sigh No More - Mumford & Sons - 2009



Will leave it to UK KF to right a description...

right im back after watching the NBA draft!!

As stated above by the wonderfully helpful Turgenev (im a guy btw ;) ) i have picked the second Mumford and Sons album of the draft

I think personally its better then the previous one picked ;). If you havent heard of Mumford firstly you need to be following the draft better ;).... and secondly they are an amazing Indie Folk group with brilliant songs :D


Other videos:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m_-nYA5BWDA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oMO4xdOS5jY

and i havent even included Little Lion Man or Roll Away Your Stone or my personal favorite (and extreamly underated) Dustbowl Dance..... not bad for there debut album :D
 
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VF21

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Oops. I made a slight error in merging the UK kings fan pick posts and inadvertently put his post out of order.

Just to clarify, dukeswh is now on the clock. Sorry for any confusion. The picks were initially made in the right order, contrary to how they now appear.
 
Sorry for the hold up guys.

This band has been around for a long time now, but the first album of theirs that i've ever bought is their 11th one. For me, track by track, is pretty solid.

For my 9th pick of the draft, I select:

Get a Grip - Aerosmith (1993)

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WIKI here

 
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VF21

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Note: This thread has been getting harder and harder to load, and I can only surmise it's because of the vast number of embedded videos. For that reason, I'm going back and limiting each thread to ONE embedded video with links to the other videos you may have included. For future picks, please embed only one song. Thanks!
 

Mr. S£im Citrus

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I've noticed excessive slowdown, since page one, but I'm also, due to my personal situation, using an eleven year-old hand-me-down PC. The only time I don't notice slowdown, on any page that has a video clip, is when I'm browsing from my phone, which is too ****ing aggravating to bother trying to type on. Which is why I usually end up hitting 'ESC' before the page finishes loading (it's also why I stopped providing video links for my picks, and even removed the one I had provided).

EDIT - It's also why I've made more typing errors in this thread than anywhere else on the board, in a while: when you don't want to have to deal with your browser locking up, every time you refresh, it tends to make proofreading a bit of a burden.
 
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VF21

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REMINDER: Be sure you send a PM to the person following you. There have been several occasions where the next person didn't receive a PM and didn't realize they were up.

Thanks. :)
 

Bricklayer

Don't Make Me Use The Bat
You know, was thinking about your slow computer problem, and it occurred to me that a possibility might be to split the draft thread in half -- make this one Desert Island Music Album Draft - 2013 edition - RDS 1-10, and then create a new one, Desert Island Music Album Draft - 2013 edition - RDS 11-20 once we hit RND 11. Copy over the draft lists, and keep right on going without the slowdown.
 

VF21

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Of course, if nobody is around to make the picks, it doesn't make much difference anyway. ;)

The thread seems to be loading a lot better without all the embedded stuff, so we can see what happens. I'll keep your idea in mind, though. I need to find out from a couple of others who mentioned problems to me if they're loading easier now.

And BTW? I don't have an Apple IIe. I have a Commodore 128. :p
 
This album is most likely safe but I have been known to miscalculate these things from time to time. Here is my 2nd favorite album of all time, slightly behind Throwing Copper. I purchased this album on vacation in Hawaii right before Y2K, and I distinctly remember flying into a completely deserted San Francisco International Airport at 9:30 PM on New Years Eve. So many people were worried about the Y2K computer crash that there were only 2 flights arriving in the entire airport!

I listened to these tracks continuously during car trips and study sessions throughout my entire undergraduate and doctorate course work, making this offering very dear to my heart. With my next selection, I choose:

Dave Matthews and Tim Reynolds - Live at Luther College - 1999



Here's my favorite cruising song on the album:

Track List:

Disk 1:

1. One Sweet World - 5:43
2. #41 - 5:37
3. Trippin' Billies - 5:49
4. Jimi Thing - 8:13
5. Satellite - 4:39
6. Crash Into Me - 5:33
7. Deed is Done - 4:51
8. Lover Lay Down - 5:33
9. What Would You Say - 5:06
10. Minarets - 7:00
11. Cry Freedom - 5:39
12. Dancing Nancies - 7:15

Disk 2:

1. Typical Situation - 7:2
2. Stream - 5:49
3. Warehouse - 9:17
4. Christmas Song - 5:24
5. Seek Up - 7:43
6. Say Goodbye - 5:19
7. Ants Marching - 5:26
8. Little Thing - 6:18
9. Halloween - 3:00
10. Granny - 3:22
11. Two Step - 6:34

More: http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Live_at_Luther_College
 
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For my next pick, I select

Simon and Garfunkel - Bookends

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Bookends, as well as Bridge Over Troubled Waters, represent a departure for Simon and Garfunkel from pure folk to a folk-pop. Bookends is a fantastic album with most of my favorite Simon and Garfunkel songs on this album like: "America", "Fakin' It", "Punky's Dilemma", "At The Zoo", "Hazy Shade of Winter", and "Mrs. Robinson"

Here is a more recent performance of "America"
 
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with the ninth pick in the ninth round of the 2013 Desert Island Music Draft, i select...

Death Grips - The Money Store (04/21/12):

clickable link: album art NSFW

01 Get Got
02 The Fever (Aye Aye)
03 Lost Boys
04 Blackjack
05 Hustle Bones
06 I've Seen Footage
07 Double Helix
08 System Blower
09 The Cage
10 Punk Weight
11 F*** That
12 B**** Please
13 Hacker

Genre: experimental hip hop, noise rap, hardcore punk

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Money_Store_(album)


note: this album is tremendously important to me as a Sacramento-area native, and the lengthy description/review below represents a significant portion of my journey as a writer, as an amateur reviewer of music, and as a lover of music. this might be a hollow request, but i am going to please ask VF21 and her fellow moderators to refrain from removing the names of a few of the artists mentioned below, despite the fact that they have not yet appeared in this draft. i deem their mention necessary in the way that i want to contextualize this album, so that the listener might appreciate its importance (to me and to hip hop, in general), even if one cannot appreciate the music itself (which can be difficult upon first listen, though i've linked to a relatively accessible song above as a starting point). anyway, onward and upward...

a great many of you are considerably older than i am, and that is not meant to be perceived as a demographic slight or a dig at what one's age says about one's picks in this draft. it is a note of reverence, to be among those who can appreciate the kind of moment i'm about to describe. that said, a great many of you have been around long enough to experience the coming of "the new," when something fascinating, compelling, and altogether confounding remaps the lived experience of your brain. we are rhythmic creatures, and music, perhaps more than any other art form, manages to universally awaken and unite something in all of us. and, from within the art form of music, there are cataclysmic events that very rarely occur, like the way Chuck Berry's guitar gave way to rock & roll, or the way Grandmaster Flash's funky cadence gave way to rap. if you were around for either of those events, you can certainly comprehend at an experiential level what i can only appreciate at a historical level: that things were changing. then there are lesser, but still massive shifts from within the call-and-response of culture, like Sex Pistols' response to 70's disco and yacht rock giving way to punk, or Kurt Cobain's response to 80's hair metal giving way to grunge...

Death Grips hail from Sacramento, CA, and while the Deftones have been and always will be my hometown heroes, i am proud to place Death Grips second on that list right below them. they are the sound of "the new," and are, in my opinion, The Shape of Rap to Come. i found out about the project via Zach Hill's Twitter account. for the uninitiated, Hill is a bit of a legend in the Sacramento music scene. he's an intensely mathematical drummer, accomplishing technical feats of wizardry for bands like Hella, Crime in Choir, Marnie Stern, and even Deftones' vocalist Chino Moreno's side project Team Sleep. Hill tweeted that he was drumming for a new hip hop group called Death Grips, and they were giving their debut album away for free online, so i promptly downloaded it out of sheer morbid curiosity. when i first listened to that debut album, titled Exmilitary, i was rocked backward by the presence of purpose. i didn't know what i was hearing. i wasn't even sure that i liked it. i just knew that i'd never heard anything like it...

it was hip hop, but it wasn't. it felt thrashy like Bad Brains. it felt boom bap like El-P. there were bass-heavy moments that recalled Bomb Squad's famous late-80's/early-90's production on Public Enemy and Ice Cube records, and there was a downtempo, grinding kind of minimalism you might find in drone music. it was confrontational. it was noisy. it was stunning, and even though it rattled my brain (a difficult feat considering that i grew up on hardcore), i would return to this album repeatedly in 2011, each time peeling back layers in the music, in the lyrics, giddy like i'd struck gold. "I FOUND SOMETHING!!" it was the very first album that i couldn't wait to write about, and it started me down a path as an aspiring amateur music journalist. Death Grips had remapped my brain. i was 24 years old at the time, and it felt like i was 13 again, at Dimple Records, discovering something new. except this wasn't just new to me. i was convinced that this was new to everyone...

i would play Exmilitary for anyone who'd listen. most of them hated it. i didn't care. and when Death Grips announced a follow-up, i was all-ears. to my suprise and delight, The Money Store was even better than their debut, and for that reason i've picked it here. for those who care, i wrote a review for The Money Store last year upon its release, and an edited version of that review appears below:

On 2011 single "Death Grips (Next Grips)," MC Ride defiantly spits, "We bring this for the ones who fiend to see the truth taken back in pain / the weakness of this scene / who f***s / who lack the nuts to claim / the streets from which that real s*** comes to push you up on game / 'What's your name?' Check it, b****: IT'S DEATH GRIPS!!!!" This band truly seems birthed from something primordial, something that exists in our collective DNA, but also something keenly future-bent. Death Grips' 2011 debut album, Exmilitary (which does not feature the song above), was a revelation to my ears, an aural assault quite unlike anything I had ever heard. I grew up on hardcore. This was not hardcore. I was raised on hip hop. This was not hip hop. Whatever it was, the noise came courtesy of my own backyard. And I wanted more. Enter The Money Store, which arrived this April like a nuclear volley hurled straight from the pit of Sacramento, CA. To be plain: it was the sound of something new.

Suffice it to say that Death Grips are the product of a place and time, their artistic aims motivated by social collapse and satisfied by specific technological conditions. "Get Got" sets the stage at street-level, pivoting on a synth loop that croaks like a smashed police siren, yet remains decidedly less abrasive than the listener may be expecting. "Get Got" is all jittery programmed drums and paranoia, and it finds MC Ride in uncharacteristically low-key form. But it's a bit of a red herring. Just after the two-minute mark, Ride briefly alters his intonation enough to signal The Money Store's intentions: "Drilled a hole into my head / pierced the bone and / felt the breeze / lift my thoughts out the sick bed / with a pair of crow skeleton wings." There is an almost-frightening self-awareness of deteriorating mental health here, and the album that follows will only widen the pilot hole that Ride is referring to above.

While "Get Got" freezes us in the light show of a police car, "The Fever (Aye Aye)" opens with a swell of synthesizer that fades in like an air horn. We're off the street now and in the industrial future that Death Grips' will build up and tear down around us. Fans of Zach Hill's other projects will be glad to hear his hyperactive kick pedal fluttering about like hummingbird wings. It's a clear album highlight, with a chorus that boasts a wicked synth line doing its best impression of Jimi Hendrix while Ride barks "I've got the fever!!" like Mark E. Smith in a chubby bunny competition. Burnett's delivery is so wonderfully unusual, as if he has too much to say and ends up choking on the words before they've exited his chest.

"Lost Boys" is Death Grips laying out a template for what minimal slowcore rap might sound like when run through a meat grinder. It is bass-heavy and neurotic, a paranoid view of hip hop on the other side of psychological disorder, or from the ledge of a high rise, as Burnett proclaims, "It's such a LONG. WAY. DOWN!!" Indeed it is. The Money Store is truly a product of its time. While a Death Grips' live performance is a blunt and visceral experience, the presentation of their art on record is much more worked-over, with MC Ride's flow—if, indeed, you could even describe Stefan Burnett's style of rapping as something that flows—obliterated by an onslaught of digitization, as if the Wizard of Oz had gone mad behind his curtain, twiddling knobs and pulling levers until Ride's projection is no longer recognizable as human. "Blackjack" is a case-in-point, it's bubbling magma pace set to a towering bassline and a weirdly-pitched synthesizer, with Burnett rapping incoherently about "how to rob men blind." Its gutterspeak for the future, the sound of our social fabric's hard drive crashing.

Later comes the album's centerpiece, "I've Seen Footage," a slice of "somethin' I ain't seen before," and my pick for Song of the Year. It's set in a "deep space ghetto," like some Bizarro World throwback to an unborn collaboration between Salt-n-Pepa and MC Hammer, dusted off and remixed by The Bomb Squad while smoking a dime bag they bought from Bad Brains. Yes, it really is that f***ing strange and thrilling, as MC Ride transcribes his paranoia across the kind of catchy where-the-ever-living-F***-did-that-come-from that Death Grips may never top: "I've seen footage, I stay 'noided, I've seen footage." It may not read like 2012's best hook, but I'll be damned if you're not hands-in-the-air when that chorus hits.

Elsewhere, "System Blower" absolutely curbstomps the listener. This track simply pummels with the force of a mortar shell, and the layman is left rattled and wondering what the hell is making all this noise? Synthesizer? Guitar pedal? Some indiscriminate computer program? I suppose it doesn't matter. Death Grips "came to blow your system" regardless. "Punk Weight" pitch shifts a vocal sample into the next life while Zach Hill pounds the skins behind an absolutely nasty filter, giving them a cavernous, automatic gunfire effect. Death Grips are a galaxy away from the trendy stateside dubstep of the moment, but they're also not shy about dropping the bass at just the right moment in a song like "Punk Weight." It's skullf***ingly confrontational, with MC Ride arriving like a lightning strike: "Hot s***, cold s*** / okay muthaf***a, let's do this!!" Goddammit if it's not the kind of affirmation independent music needs right now.

By the time final track "Hacker" rears its grooving, dancehall-ready head, the listener's hair is completely blown back. For the twelve tracks prior, Death Grips are intent on shattering teeth, but "Hacker" stands out as a quirky diversion and breathtaking climax, with a stream-of-consciousness meets topical-non-sequitur lyrical bent, bizarrely tackling everything from chicken-or-egg paradoxes to Michael Jordan brand shoes to Lady Gaga to Sammy Davis Jr. to Tesla to Wikileaks to Linens n Things. Yup, that's right: Linens n Things. Death Grips. And Linens n Things. Don't ask me, ask MC Ride, as he bellows the chorus: "I'm in your area / I'm in / your area!!" This is Death Grips at their most unusually joyful, at their most oddly Seinfeldian, reveling in their strangeness from within a pop cultural murk of excess, as Burnett declares, "The table's flipped, now we've got all the coconuts, b****!!" What does that even mean?! I haven't the slightest clue. There is no context for it. It's as if Burnett's making it up as he goes, like he might be able to redefine his grasp on the notion of "what's mine." Death Grips are projecting into the future, and we're welcome to come along for the [MC] ride while the hard drives crash all around us, with Stefan Burnett left pounding his chest: "Stay 'noided!!"
 
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with the eighth pick in the second round of the 2013 Desert Island Music Draft, i select...

The Cure - Disintegration (05/01/89):



01 Plainsong
02 Pictures of You
03 Closedown
04 Lovesong
05 Last Dance
06 Lullaby
07 Fascination Street
08 Prayers for Rain
09 The Same Deep Water as You
10 Disintegration

Genre: post-punk, gothic rock, new wave

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disintegration_(The_Cure_album)


Deftones' seminal 2000 album, White Pony, was my first pick in the draft. it was a vanity pick, because it's my favorite album of all time, and while there was certainly no danger of it being claimed in the early rounds (if at all), i wanted to make a statement regarding the way i would be drafting. the Deftones have been my favorite band since junior high, when i first heard their second album, Around the Fur. it was around this time that i was able to begin defining and curating my own music taste outside of my father's record collection. so i would read every interview with the Deftones in every magazine i could find, soaking up whatever knowledge they were willing to impart to their fans. when you're young, bright-eyed, and desiring new music to listen to, and late-90's radio is inundating your ears with the likes of Britney Spears and N'sync, but you also haven't the faintest idea of where to start looking for something better, something of quality, the best place to begin is amongst your favorite band's influences...

Deftones' vocalist Chino Moreno is a unique and unusual voice in metal because he's not afraid to wear his post-punk influence on his sleeve, citing Depeche Mode's Dave Gahan, Japan's David Sylvian, The Smiths' Morrisey, and The Cure's Robert Smith as some of his favorite singers. in an era of dial-up internet, and with limited access to information about music outside of MTV, i trotted my teenage self down to Dimple Records in Roseville damn near every week, digging for treasure through the aisles of used CD's. i became friendly with Dimple's staff, and they were never shy about pointing me in the right direction. the Cure's Disintegration was among my earliest and most-prized finds, it's synth-driven beauty painting the kind of emotional landscape that i was looking for in music, but could not find amongst the sea of guitar-wielding fakers, boy band choreography, and Jock Jams amateurism...

Deftones' White Pony would eventually become my favorite album as the calendar turned over to the new millenium, giving way to its summer time release. but in the autumn and winter of 1999, without a compass, Disintegration helped me to truly fall in love with music. from the popular wedding-day anthem "Lovesong" to the unrelenting groove of "Fascination Street" to the wide screen grandeur of title track "Disintegration," the Cure redefined themselves on their own terms, and made a stone cold classic of an album. they've not been able to top it since, nor would i really want them to. Disintegration is so near to perfection. its genuinely emotive. it wraps the listener in its cocoon for an hour, and the listener comes out the other side changed. its influence stretches so wide on contemporary synth-based music. without the transcendent "Plainsong," perhaps highly-regarded artists like M83 fail to materialize. i am grateful that Disintegration is, has been, and always will be a part of my life. that gratitude is why i've selected it with my second round pick...

Best. The Cure. Review. Ever...
 

Bricklayer

Don't Make Me Use The Bat
Drunken Lullabies - Flogging Molly - 2002



Celtic punk. Why Flogging Molly with this pick? Because they are just damn fun. And if you have never considered a fiddle or an irish whistle as punk instruments before, well, time to think outside the box a little. Standout tracks include Drunken Lullabies, What's Left of the Flag, If I Ever Leave this World Alive etc.

 
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Mr. S£im Citrus

Doryphore of KingsFans.com
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With the one hundred thirty-ninth pick, Mr. Slim Citrus selects:











Gang Starr, Daily Operation (1992)

Arguably my favorite rap album, from beginning to end. GURU's flow, together with Premier's beats, combine for fifty-plus minutes of classic hip-hop. From the jazzy little interlude which opens the album until the final track (one of my favorite album-ending tracks, ever), Stay Tuned, there's nothing but greatness to be found here. This album was one of my early CD purchases after getting out of boot camp, and one of the few which I made a priority to replace immediately when my apartment was robbed while out on deployment, when I was stationed in Italy. While well regarded critically, the album was only a moderate success commercially, garnering no awards or accolades of consequence, and peaking at sixty-five on the Billboard 200. It produced only two singles that got any significant airplay, Take it Personal, and Ex Girl to Next Girl, but it did have the song B.Y.S. appear in the video game Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas (cite: Wikipedia).
 
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Bricklayer

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So, I'm in transit: I tried to post my pick earlier, and it didn't go through. Then my connection dropped. And now, my phone is about to die. So, I'll keep this short, with writeup to come at a later date:



Wiki


well that sucks Slim. still coming through all garbled on this end, but I've reconstructed your message as best I could.
 
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