Dallas destroys the Lakers to move on to conference finals:

#33
You can find "dirty" plays on plenty of players, it's a physical and emotional game, it's eventually going to happen. I bet I could find plenty for Webber and Vlade. That doesn't automatically make someone a dirty player.

I call obvious and total BS on the claim that he'd be fined it he didn't disappove of what happened, that simply has no basis in reality. You're basically just setting up a fantasy scenario where no matter what Kobe does he's guilty.
If Kobe said "I'm glad Bynum laid that sucker out" yes, he would have gotten a fine. No question. Not even Artest would be dumb enough to say anything but apologize after such an obvious dirty hit.

I never said Kobe told Bynum to go lay out JJ, but Kobe, Fish, and co. have been notoriously dirty players, same as guys like Bowen. Not sure why you feel so compelled to defend a team that has taken THREE obvious and unjustifiable flagrant cheap shots throughout this series.
 

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#34
If Kobe said "I'm glad Bynum laid that sucker out" yes, he would have gotten a fine. No question. Not even Artest would be dumb enough to say anything but apologize after such an obvious dirty hit.
Well of course, but if he said "He was just sticking up for the team in frustration and maybe took things to far but no big deal" nothing would be done. It's not like he was forced to disapprove, is what I think Vlade is saying. He could no-comment or downplay it, to his credit he chose to address it.
 
#35
Well of course, but if he said "He was just sticking up for the team in frustration and maybe took things to far but no big deal" nothing would be done. It's not like he was forced to disapprove, is what I think Vlade is saying. He could no-comment or downplay it, to his credit he chose to address it.
he addressed it because the reporter's asked him about it
 

Mr. S£im Citrus

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#36
I'm curious. If any other team was on the end of that loss, would you guys think it was wrong for Dallas to run the score up like that?
I'm your huckleberry.

I'll give you the answer you're looking for, and I won't deflect or equivocate, like others have: hell yes, I would think it was wrong if it was any other team. But it wasn't; it was the gd lakers. So... Ha ha! To paraphrase Carl Lee Hailey, yes they deserve to get run up, and I hope they burn in hell!

Now that you've gotten what you were fishing for, I hope you can get on with the rest of your life.

I like to play devil's advocate.
You've been posting here for quite some time, Vlade4GM, and I can't help but notice, in your posting history, how you only "like to play devil's advocate" when it comes to the gd lakers. It seems almost conspicuously convenient.
 
#37
You've been posting here for quite some time, Vlade4GM, and I can't help but notice, in your posting history, how you only "like to play devil's advocate" when it comes to the gd lakers. It seems almost conspicuously convenient.
It almost seems like he would be someone that would live in the Los Angeles area... ;)
 
#38

You've been posting here for quite some time, Vlade4GM, and I can't help but notice, in your posting history, how you only "like to play devil's advocate" when it comes to the gd lakers. It seems almost conspicuously convenient.


wow are you really implying that someone who has posted on this board for 5 years with over 5000 posts is actually a lakers fan in disguise? do you also think that bin laden was working for the CIA and carried out the 911 attacks so that bush would be able to attack iraq to steal their oil?
 
#39
wow are you really implying that someone who has posted on this board for 5 years with over 5000 posts is actually a lakers fan in disguise? do you also think that bin laden was working for the CIA and carried out the 911 attacks so that bush would be able to attack iraq to steal their oil?
I think he's a Kobe fan and a mild laker fan and I think he took a liking to the kings back in their glory years and it kinda stuck. I don't think he's that big of a fan of either team but I think he's more of a kings fan.
 

Mr. S£im Citrus

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#42
wow are you really implying that someone who has posted on this board for 5 years with over 5000 posts is actually a lakers fan in disguise? do you also think that bin laden was working for the CIA and carried out the 911 attacks so that bush would be able to attack iraq to steal their oil?
Yes, no and no, in that order. And, if you'd read the bulk of his 5000+ posts like I have, you wouldn't be asking that question.

P.S. - Just in case you'd never been told before, political discussion is strongly discouraged around here; I'll ask you politely to please resist the temptation to include any political commentary from any potential response.
 
#43
Nothing wrong with being a hybrid Lakers/Kings fan (as odd a coupling as that may be).

I didn't think the Mavs were running up the score. The Lakers had their starters in and were still playing hard... you don't let up on Kobe Bryant & Co. until they've run up the white flag (or, apparently, in the case of the Lakers -- started throwing cheap shots).

Ok, on second thought.. yeah, it is just plain wrong to be a hybrid Kings/Lakers fan -- what's wrong with you!!! :p
 
#44
I like to play devil's advocate.

I think what Bynum did was really the horrible thing here. If that didn't happen I probably would just written off what Lamar did, so I guess I just don't understand the claim of "classlessness" on the feet of the entire team because of what a couple individuals did. Kobe seemed to be apologetic when he approached Barrea, I think he genuinely disapproves of what happened. I think that counts for something since he's the leader of the team.
Artest was already suspended for a cheap shot. So yes it appears to be a team wide thing. Fisher has set some dirty screens too and Kobe has been suspended for moving under jump shooters who land on his feet.
 
#45
I'm curious. If any other team was on the end of that loss, would you guys think it was wrong for Dallas to run the score up like that?
"Running up the score" is a complete misnomer in my opinion. You're supposed to sore as many points as possible. That game is 48 minutes. You don't stop trying to score just because the other team is playing like crap.
 

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#46
"Running up the score" is a complete misnomer in my opinion. You're supposed to sore as many points as possible. That game is 48 minutes. You don't stop trying to score just because the other team is playing like crap.
This. Remember the Kings in Chicago a while back? Remember the 20 point lead of the Lakers we wiped out in the last game of the season? Leads can disappear. You don't let up. I wish they would have beat the Lakers by 60.
 

Tetsujin

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#47
"Running up the score" is a complete misnomer in my opinion. You're supposed to sore as many points as possible. That game is 48 minutes. You don't stop trying to score just because the other team is playing like crap.
This. Considering the fact that the Mavs Bench scored as many points as the entire Lakers team, I'm really not sure what they were supposed to do. Let the Lakers play 5 on 4?
 
#49
im not going to lie, I wanted to see phil jackson and the lakers get one last victory and make history with a three-peat. I dont know. I dont completely hate the lakers like a lot of people around this area and revel in watching them get blown out like that. And to tell you guys the truth, it actually irks me a little when i read about how much people hate them and were glad to see them get kicked while they were down like that. And then people accusing other people of being lakers fans like its a crime or something. I know theyre our rivals and everything but still. I dont think it makes me any less of a kings fan if i cheer for any other team or even our rivals once in a while.
 
#50
"Running up the score" is a complete misnomer in my opinion. You're supposed to sore as many points as possible. That game is 48 minutes. You don't stop trying to score just because the other team is playing like crap.
IIRC, the Mavs even had a shotclock violation towards the end (though that may have been LA, I'm fuzzy on it). In any case, this isn't football. The only way to get the clock to wind down is wait 15 seconds, run a play, and go back on D. Can't exactly punt the ball.
 
#51
im not going to lie, I wanted to see phil jackson and the lakers get one last victory and make history with a three-peat. I dont know. I dont completely hate the lakers like a lot of people around this area and revel in watching them get blown out like that. And to tell you guys the truth, it actually irks me a little when i read about how much people hate them and were glad to see them get kicked while they were down like that. And then people accusing other people of being lakers fans like its a crime or something. I know theyre our rivals and everything but still. I dont think it makes me any less of a kings fan if i cheer for any other team or even our rivals once in a while.
LAKER FAN!!!

Hahaha I get what you're saying, but f*** a threepeat!
 
#54
You've been posting here for quite some time, Vlade4GM, and I can't help but notice, in your posting history, how you only "like to play devil's advocate" when it comes to the gd lakers. It seems almost conspicuously convenient.
Have you considered that it's because of how much the Lakers are hated on this board?

And I don't think I only play devil's advocate when it comes to the Lakers, that doesn't sound like me at all.
 

Mr. S£im Citrus

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#55
Well, you're welcome to say that, but if that's what you really believe, then I'd like you to please direct me to the last post you made where you played devil's advocate to the Bucks, or the Timberwolves, or the Raptors, or the Bobcats?
 
#56
I think he's a Kobe fan and a mild laker fan and I think he took a liking to the kings back in their glory years and it kinda stuck. I don't think he's that big of a fan of either team but I think he's more of a kings fan.
I'm a Kobe fan, ex-Lakers fan (stopped being one around 96 or 97), a somewhat more than moderate Kings fan, and a Lakers observer. I don't know if that makes me a mild Lakers fan, but even if it did, BFD. I'm generally an NBA fan, and I primarily follow and root for the Kings.
 
#57
it actually irks me a little when i read about how much people hate them and were glad to see them get kicked while they were down like that. And then people accusing other people of being lakers fans like its a crime or something.
I have Kobe as number 2 in my most hated public persona of all time, under Bin Laden. Oh-- wait, what? Osama is dead and I have a new number 1.
 
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#60
Well, you're welcome to say that, but if that's what you really believe, then I'd like you to please direct me to the last post you made where you played devil's advocate to the Bucks, or the Timberwolves, or the Raptors, or the Bobcats?
I was talking of subjects in general, but I'm unaware of a strong anti-raptors/wolves/cats sentiment on this board. Still, I'm more than willing to admit that I'll probably be more likely to play devil's advocate about the Lakers because I'm more exposed to Lakers fans and their perspectives. My parents are Lakers fan, and so are quite a few of my friends.