Cousins Suspended One Game

[Glenn]

Considering Demarcus got the same punishment as a guy who actively fought a referee, it does.

That's what ticks me off. Is the NBA saying that they know for a fact that DMC did this intentionally? How can they know? We are debating it here and when a guy is getting grabbed and held and then heads for the basket NOT LOOKING AT MAYO and hits him, I thinks it's a question. If anyone will consider how they are put together anatomically, the hands are at the same level as the gonads. I think the argument that DMC was trying to rid himself of the hands that were grabbing him can be made. I am not saying he didn't do it, I am not saying he didn't do it intentionally but I AM saying that the NBA can't be 100% sure of any of that.

 

[Glenn]

I disagree there. I was watching the Dal telecast and they mentioned it more than once, and replayed it more than once well before Mayo said a word postgame. It was on twitter before the game ended.

I asked this during the game and no one replied, but did the Sac telecast talk about it during the game or ignore it? Wondering, because the Dal telecast did talk about it through out the game.

But I doubt it goes to the extent it did without Mayon whining afterwards.

I didn't know because no one here seemed to notice it.

 

[rainmaker]

I didn't know because no one here seemed to notice it.

That might be why so many Sac fans are outraged. Most watched the Sac telecast which ignored it. I watched the Dal telecast and they replayed both Cuz hitting Mayo and getting into it with Carlisle. If Sac fans watched the Sac telecast and the Sac telecast ignored it, I'm not surprised most fans ignored it as well.

When I saw it and I've watched multiple replays, I did think it was intentional. But I also don't think it's a big deal nor can it be proven and was deserving of a fine at most. NBA has gotten soft.

 

[HereWeBoogie]

Not watching? Sure you are. Return of Reke.

i have class till 6:50. but ill fast forward through it on the DVR afterwards.

BTW, all the people calling 1140 saying its time to trade Cousins now. YOUR IDIOTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[hrdboild]

While I don't think a suspension is warranted by what happened, I also think the league is very open about choosing their punishments based on player history. And Cousins, whether he likes it or not, has made his own bed. He's got to learn somehow to knock it off and just play basketball. That's more or less what Mayo said. I'm starting to think this team might be the worst possible situation for him to be in. It's too bad we don't have a coach like Carlisle because I know he would give Cousins an earful and at this point he probably needs to hear it.

 

[Bricklayer]

Bullcrap. Demarcus is an imature punk.

Irrelevant.

Rules are rules. You don't enforce them according to whether you like a guy or not. This a fineable offense tops.

The league is sending a message alright. The message is that Boogie's delusions of persecution may not be such a delusion.

 

[HereWeBoogie]

I also think the league is very open about choosing their punishments based on player history. And Cousins, whether he likes it or not, has made his own bed.

then why didnt Artest get suspended for giving Jeremy Lin a spinning backfist. He's pretty much got the worst player History of anyone ever

 

[HereWeBoogie]

more Tweets from Dave, has solid points

Carmichael Dave ‏@CarmichaelDave
I wish the suspension had come from the Kings, along with a statement condemning his actions. That is all.

Carmichael Dave ‏@CarmichaelDave
This is an ongoing problem. The NBA waited till 3 hrs before tipoff to see if the Kings would do something. They didn't, so the league did.

Carmichael Dave ‏@CarmichaelDave
The fact that the Kings went ostrich on Cousins is further proof that they are leaderless. Wouldn't happen if Petrie were still alive.



this one he is referring to Petrie also
Carmichael Dave ‏@CarmichaelDave
Whether you're leaving or not, the country saw someone with "Sacramento" on his chest be dirty and classless. And you did nothing. Shame.


Carmichael Dave ‏@CarmichaelDave
You represent the city of Sacramento as a franchise, you have a duty to hold up to that name and a responsibility to your community.

 

[VF21]

more Tweets from Dave, has solid points

Carmichael Dave ‏@CarmichaelDave
I wish the suspension had come from the Kings, along with a statement condemning his actions. That is all.

Carmichael Dave ‏@CarmichaelDave
This is an ongoing problem. The NBA waited till 3 hrs before tipoff to see if the Kings would do something. They didn't, so the league did.

Carmichael Dave ‏@CarmichaelDave
The fact that the Kings went ostrich on Cousins is further proof that they are leaderless. Wouldn't happen if Petrie were still alive.



this one he is referring to Petrie also
Carmichael Dave ‏@CarmichaelDave
Whether you're leaving or not, the country saw someone with "Sacramento" on his chest be dirty and classless. And you did nothing. Shame.


Carmichael Dave ‏@CarmichaelDave
You represent the city of Sacramento as a franchise, you have a duty to hold up to that name and a responsibility to your community.

This is all beyond ridiculous. I feel like I'm living in Bizarro world. I've quit following Carmichael Dave on Twitter. He's become no better than some of the worst CAVE people. Unfortunately, there are people who still think he has the best interests of us - the Kings fans - in mind. He doesn't. He's written the Kings off and wants all of us to do the same. Hence the ongoing vitriol.

 

[HereWeBoogie]

i dont think he's written the Kings off. he still posts positive things and talks about wanting the fans to make some noise.

i think he's just calling the Kings front office out on their total BS

 

[Capt. Factorial]

more Tweets from Dave, has solid points

Disagree. Dave went from "solid points" to "blatant agenda" on this one a long time ago.

 

[VF21]

Disagree. Dave went from "solid points" to "blatant agenda" on this one a long time ago.

AMEN! I've known Dave a long, ling time and it's sad to see that he's become more enamored of being the messenger than in actually representing the fans. He's become what he used to despise the most.

 

[Capt. Factorial]

While I don't think a suspension is warranted by what happened, I also think the league is very open about choosing their punishments based on player history. And Cousins, whether he likes it or not, has made his own bed. He's got to learn somehow to knock it off and just play basketball.

The problem is, what happened in the Dallas game looks a hell of a lot like "just playing basketball". Perhaps Cousins "made his own bed" the first time around, but it's gotten to the point where the league is now continually making that bed for him. He's getting suspended for that "History of bad behavior", but note that the most recent entry in the log is: "Ejection for being in the act of slapping at the ball in the post while the whistle blew, then walking away from the ref when told to."

Next thing you know he'll get suspended for going over the back on a rebound: "History of bad behavior: Suspension for minor contact with O.J. Mayo and ejection for being in the act of slapping at the ball in the post while the whistle blew, then walking away from the ref when told to."

Then it will be a suspension for making an 18-foot jumpshot: "History of bad behavior: Suspension for going over the back on a rebound, suspension for minor contact with O.J. Mayo, and ejection for being in the act of slapping at the ball in the post while the whistle blew, then walking away from the ref when told to."

What part of the self-fulfilling prophecy doesn't the NBA see here?

 

[rainmaker]

This is all beyond ridiculous. I feel like I'm living in Bizarro world. I've quit following Carmichael Dave on Twitter. He's become no better than some of the worst CAVE people. Unfortunately, there are people who still think he has the best interests of us - the Kings fans - in mind. He doesn't. He's written the Kings off and wants all of us to do the same. Hence the ongoing vitriol.

CD really knows very little about the league as a whole and actual knowledge relating to basketball. Some fo his basketball based tweets are absolutely stupid. No other way to put it. Many here know much, much more about the game than he does.

However, he was great for here we stay and rallying fans to support the team. Since then and in the past few months, ever since here we stay died out, he seems to have gone off the deep end. Real unfortunate he doesn't use his platform better. It's one thing for him to give up. It's another to give up so publicly and constantly put out asinine tweets given his platform and following. He went from being great for fans to now hurting more than he's helping.

He really just needs to shut up.

 

[HereWeBoogie]

Disagree. Dave went from "solid points" to "blatant agenda" on this one a long time ago.

So how do you defend petries lack of involvement recently and his crap job assembling this team in the last couple off seasons?

 

[Glenn]

The problem is, what happened in the Dallas game looks a hell of a lot like "just playing basketball". Perhaps Cousins "made his own bed" the first time around, but it's gotten to the point where the league is now continually making that bed for him. He's getting suspended for that "History of bad behavior", but note that the most recent entry in the log is: "Ejection for being in the act of slapping at the ball in the post while the whistle blew, then walking away from the ref when told to."

Next thing you know he'll get suspended for going over the back on a rebound: "History of bad behavior: Suspension for minor contact with O.J. Mayo and ejection for being in the act of slapping at the ball in the post while the whistle blew, then walking away from the ref when told to."

Then it will be a suspension for making an 18-foot jumpshot: "History of bad behavior: Suspension for going over the back on a rebound, suspension for minor contact with O.J. Mayo, and ejection for being in the act of slapping at the ball in the post while the whistle blew, then walking away from the ref when told to."

What part of the self-fulfilling prophecy doesn't the NBA see here?

Your creativity is marvelous. Bravo!!!!

 

[bajaden]

Looked pretty deliberate from Cuz. Cuz used his left arm to free his right from Mayo. Then delivered the blow. You watch the close up tape?

Regardless, I guess it's up for debate, and at this point, Cuz will not be given the benefit of the doubt (justifiably).

Your right, his arm swing was deliberate. He pulled Mayo's hand off his arm with his left hand, and then swung his right arm down to keep if off, and in the process accidently hit him in the groin. You can believe what you want, but if you watch it in normal speed, you simply have to want to believe he hig the groin area on purpose. He wasn't even looking at Mayo when it happened. Did his hand hit Mayo's groin? Yes! I just don't think he did it intentionally. He said he didn't do it intentionally. So you can choose to believe him or not.

Whats frustrating to me, is that no one would have even known it happened if Mayo hadn't made an issue of it. No foul was called. There was no technical or ejection. As far as I'm concerned, it was minor compared to what happens on a regular basis. As I said before, how hard could it have been? I didn't see O'Mayo crumble to the floor. As Cousins said in a tweet. "Hello pot, meet the kettle"

 

[bajaden]

The problem is, what happened in the Dallas game looks a hell of a lot like "just playing basketball". Perhaps Cousins "made his own bed" the first time around, but it's gotten to the point where the league is now continually making that bed for him. He's getting suspended for that "History of bad behavior", but note that the most recent entry in the log is: "Ejection for being in the act of slapping at the ball in the post while the whistle blew, then walking away from the ref when told to."

Next thing you know he'll get suspended for going over the back on a rebound: "History of bad behavior: Suspension for minor contact with O.J. Mayo and ejection for being in the act of slapping at the ball in the post while the whistle blew, then walking away from the ref when told to."

Then it will be a suspension for making an 18-foot jumpshot: "History of bad behavior: Suspension for going over the back on a rebound, suspension for minor contact with O.J. Mayo, and ejection for being in the act of slapping at the ball in the post while the whistle blew, then walking away from the ref when told to."

What part of the self-fulfilling prophecy doesn't the NBA see here?

Well said mi amigo!

 

[mac]

Your right, his arm swing was deliberate. He pulled Mayo's hand off his arm with his left hand, and then swung his right arm down to keep if off, and in the process accidently hit him in the groin. You can believe what you want, but if you watch it in normal speed, you simply have to want to believe he hig the groin area on purpose. He wasn't even looking at Mayo when it happened. Did his hand hit Mayo's groin? Yes! I just don't think he did it intentionally. He said he didn't do it intentionally. So you can choose to believe him or not.

Whats frustrating to me, is that no one would have even known it happened if Mayo hadn't made an issue of it. No foul was called. There was no technical or ejection. As far as I'm concerned, it was minor compared to what happens on a regular basis. As I said before, how hard could it have been? I didn't see O'Mayo crumble to the floor. As Cousins said in a tweet. "Hello pot, meet the kettle"

I don't know ... his right arm really makes no contact with Mayo's arm at all, and that's with his left hand holding Mayo's arm (so it's not like he doesn't know where Mayo's hand is). The motion he made seems too "downward driven" to be directed at knocking Mayo's hand away (where you'd probably hit outwards, like swatting a fly). Still, it's really arguable either way whether it was intentional or not, so I think a one game suspension is overkill. A fine at most.

 

[Mojo]

Anybody just hear JVG comments? He went on for about a minute about how too young and disjointed the team is.

 

[rainmaker]

Your right, his arm swing was deliberate. He pulled Mayo's hand off his arm with his left hand, and then swung his right arm down to keep if off, and in the process accidently hit him in the groin. You can believe what you want, but if you watch it in normal speed, you simply have to want to believe he hig the groin area on purpose. He wasn't even looking at Mayo when it happened. Did his hand hit Mayo's groin? Yes! I just don't think he did it intentionally. He said he didn't do it intentionally. So you can choose to believe him or not.

Whats frustrating to me, is that no one would have even known it happened if Mayo hadn't made an issue of it. No foul was called. There was no technical or ejection. As far as I'm concerned, it was minor compared to what happens on a regular basis. As I said before, how hard could it have been? I didn't see O'Mayo crumble to the floor. As Cousins said in a tweet. "Hello pot, meet the kettle"

I don't understand why people keep saying this. The Dal broadcast was talking about and did replay it. It was on twitter well before Mayo said anything postgame.

The no foul being called is besides the point. That's not a play most refs will see live, but they did t-up the reaction from Mayo. I'd saying looking at Mayo doesn't matter either. You don't need to look to know where Mayo is.

I mean, has anyone here played basketball and thrown an elbow? You don't need to look before you do it. I've thrown a number of elbows to send a message or because some guy was pissing me off, and I didn't look at the guy right before throwing that elbow. You already have an idea of where he is, especially if you're bodying him up and he's grabbing your arm or shirt.

And I don't know if it was intentional or not, and even if it was a suspension is an overreaction. But I really don't know what people are watching who are 100% convinced it was completely unintentional. You can argue it either way, but it's not definitive.

 

[mac]

I don't understand why people keep saying this. The Dal broadcast was talking about and did replay it. It was on twitter well before Mayo said anything postgame.

The no foul being called is besides the point. That's not a play most refs will see live, but they did t-up the reaction from Mayo. I'd saying looking at Mayo doesn't matter either. You don't need to look to know where Mayo is.

I mean, has anyone here played basketball and thrown an elbow? You don't need to look before you do it. I've thrown a number of elbows to send a message or because some guy was pissing me off, and I didn't look at the guy right before throwing that elbow. You already have an idea of where he is, especially if you're bodying him up and he's grabbing your arm or shirt.

And I don't know if it was intentional or not, and even if it was a suspension is an overreaction. But I really don't know what people are watching who are 100% convinced it was completely unintentional. You can argue it either way, but it's not definitive.

Agree

 

[rainmaker]

Agree

Maybe most don't share my opinion, but basically, I think it was intentional, or am at least leaning that way, but don't care that it was and think the NBA overreacted. So intentional, but don't really care that it was, and think a bit of nasty is fine in this league.

 

[hrdboild]

I'm not going to get into what is or isn't justified. Lord knows the NBA league office does all sorts of things I don't agree with. But objectively speaking, when I saw the play in question, I'm not surprised some kind of punishment was levied. Especially considering who's involved. Some of Cousins' reputation is not deserved, but some of it is. And I'm tired of him putting himself in that position at all. I like Cousins a lot, but he still has a lot of growing up to do. He didn't need to pick a fight with Sean Elliot just like he didn't need to pick fights with Donte Greene or Paul Westphal. He's got no control over what other people do but he does have control over himself. I don't think that's an unfair expectation. What Ron Artest does or does not do is completely irrelevant.

 

[VF21]

The Mavericks have a long and glorious history of protesting to the league over real or imagined slights. IIRC (and I'm sure I do) it was Mark Cuban who, during the playoffs, sent a video to the league of C-Webb allegedly dragging his pivot foot and demanded that the officials start calling him on it. It was a move Webber had made his entire career and was not actually traveling.

I'm personally way beyond tired of players taking to Twitter to voice their opinions or whine or boast or respond to other players. The same holds true for partisan team announcers.

What really aggravates me is that the league took so long to make a determination. The game was Monday. They had all day Tuesday to review it and come to a decision by that afternoon. There was no need or reason for them to wait until late today - and I'm not buying the bullpoop explanation by CD that they were waiting for the Kings to take action. A team doesn't take action on something like that, the league does.

 

[mac]

I'm not going to get into what is or isn't justified. Lord knows the NBA league office does all sorts of things I don't agree with. But objectively speaking, when I saw the play in question, I'm not surprised some kind of punishment was levied. Especially considering who's involved. Some of Cousins' reputation is not deserved, but some of it is. And I'm tired of him putting himself in that position at all. I like Cousins a lot, but he still has a lot of growing up to do. He didn't need to pick a fight with Sean Elliot just like he didn't need to pick fights with Donte Greene or Paul Westphal. He's got no control over what other people do but he does have control over himself. I don't think that's an unfair expectation. What Ron Artest does or does not do is completely irrelevant.

Pretty much how I feel as well. He has to understand that like it or not, the spotlight is on him. Ok, things like this low blow on Mayo may be unintentional, or even if intentional happens very often in basketball games; they simply go undetected. But in terms of stuff like the confrontation with Sean Elliot and all it's on him to stay out of trouble.

 

[rhythmless]

NBA is just awful. I wonder if Lebron or Durant would get same suspension in game 6 of the finals? heck even during the season
This is stupid. I watched the video. I saw Mayo holding Cuz arm back Cousins jerked his forward and back to break the hold. Mayo let go in the middle of the backward motion allowing Cuz arm continue more quickly in that direction. End of story.

Where did you see this video? Because in the video I'm watching, DMC clearly grabs hold of Mayo's right arm with DMC's left hand, then punches down with his right hand.

 

[rainmaker]

The Mavericks have a long and glorious history of protesting to the league over real or imagined slights. IIRC (and I'm sure I do) it was Mark Cuban who, during the playoffs, sent a video to the league of C-Webb allegedly dragging his pivot foot and demanded that the officials start calling him on it. It was a move Webber had made his entire career and was not actually traveling.

I'm personally way beyond tired of players taking to Twitter to voice their opinions or whine or boast or respond to other players. The same holds true for partisan team announcers.

What really aggravates me is that the league took so long to make a determination. The game was Monday. They had all day Tuesday to review it and come to a decision by that afternoon. There was no need or reason for them to wait until late today - and I'm not buying the bullpoop explanation by CD that they were waiting for the Kings to take action. A team doesn't take action on something like that, the league does.

That, I fully agree with. Put us in a position where even if we do appeal, it's not in time for the game so the suspension holds either way. The league had plenty of time to announce this quicker, and I expected no disciplinary action after not hearing anything for a day and a half.

 

[gman23]

DMC needs counseling, no doubt. Alot of talented NBA players out of work and broke. Just let him talk to those folks and he might see the error of his ways.

 

[KingMilz]

KG nuts shots no suspension

Kevin Garrnet nut shot on Fyre no suspension, he also throw 2-3 elbows at Francisco Elsons nuts in the playoffs a while back and got no suspension.

At least the league is consistant...............

Reggie Evans grabs Chris Kamans nuts "Evans was fined $10,000 and a flagrant foul-two but not suspended for his actions"