Cousins is Mentally Weak

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Cousins is an embarrasment to this team, this city. End of story.
You know what is embarrassment for the team and the city, it is the goody two shoes fans that make it their life to destroy any good player that walks through the doors of the team. It happened with Webber, it happened with Peja, it happened with Artest, it is happening with Cousins and Evans.

That is the embarrassment in all this. The tall poppy syndrome is alive and well in Sacramento's fan base. Hey let's have a bunch of choir boys on our team and if they are not superstars of the league we will also find a way to destroy them and drive them away and if we get a superstar talent, lets destroy them because they are competitive and intense and are not clean imaged goody two shoes!

Fans are a fickle, uneducated lot who act like they have never made a mistake in their life but are happy to bring up everybody's dirty laundry and assassinate them for it. You know, sometimes I ask myself if those types even deserve a team to start of with because for them, no hall of famer would have been good enough. Jordan would have been driven out of town for being an ***, Magic would have been destroyed for being a play boy and not a good role model. Shaq would have been driven out of town because of his personality. Kobe would have been hang because he can't keep it in his pants and for being an *** and a bad team mate. Duncan would have been too boring and too plain, KG would have been too intense and a big ***.

Where the **** does it stop?! Superstars are arrogant ****s who take no prisoners and rub people up the wrong way. It is what gives them an edge, an advantage and an aura of invincibility. Get used to it if you want a winning team otherwise find a lawn balls team to follow. This is a physical game for men and the intensity and high competitiveness is the key to success. Tracy McGrady could never get it done because he was a placid winnie. He had no desire nor competitiveness to take it to the max.

Cousins has that. He is the only one on this team that has that. It is what separates him from his team mates and it is what makes him the foundation of this franchise. He will mature. He is an intense young man that will have to learn how to control his emotions and that will come with time and winning. Remember KG punched a team mate in practice because he dunked on him. He is known to be a dickhead but he is one of the all time greats and the key reason who Boston won a championship. Kobe is anything but a model team mate but guess what, he is arguably the best player since Michael Jordan and let's not even start taking about Michael Jordan himself!

Bottom line is, until fickle "fans" learn to appreciate what they have, they will never be happy so let it go and appreciate the talent that the guy has. And please can people stop talking about role models for kids?! It's a washed up excuse! The only role models kids should have are their parents! If you want your kids to have role models that are sportsmen and public figures then you are the one with the problem and not those people you are accusing of not being good people or embarrassment.
 
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If DMC is being an *** but we're winning because of it, then I'm all for it. My particular issue with his extracurricular activities is that it results in him taking himself out of the game (sometimes mentally, other times physically). If he could be a jerkoff and still play the game properly (KG) then I'd be all for it. But he doesn't. He grabs the ball off a made basket, holds it just a liiiittle too long, then passes it to the ref. It's not long enough for a delay of game, but it's pretty blatant. He could just not touch the ball. He demonstrates after most calls that don't go his way. He hangs back to "chat" with the refs instead of playing defense. Shakes his head all the time. He will demonstrate his amazing ballhandling skills in the open floor just a little too long. It's just a whole bunch of little irks and passive aggressive displays that make him hatable to refs. I could care less if it's translating to wins. But it's directly translating to losing.
Exactly!! Padrino loves to talk about how he's the best talent we've seen in 28 years and how DMC has superstar talent. Blah, blah, blah. How come this talent hasn't been able to help us achieve a better winning percentage than .350 in 3 years? How come he hasn't led our team to the playoffs in 3 years? Maybe it's because he's a head case AND he's not nearly as talented as Padrino thinks he is.
 

Glenn

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Now I will get myself firmly planted as a Cuz apologist. Let it be so.

I was playing a high level intramural softball game (some of the guys on my team had been on the Minnesota National Championship baseball team) and was splattered all over the third base coach's box by a guy outweighing me by 40 pounds. I didn't drop the ball, BTW and he was out. :) The next time that guy tried to round second base, he was flattened by our short stop's elbow. Intra mural! It made me feel good that someone had my back.

Cousins tries to take care of the issue himself BY TALKING. He gets a tech. There is a time out and Smart doesn't sub him out with some BS post game presser comment that he didn't have time to sub in Patterson. That should have been his first action. We darn well know he wasn't drawing up a play. Cuz then gets his money's worth and fires an elbow at Dunleavy and if anyone noticed, MT seemed to give a little shove to Dunleavy also. Maybe MT was just protecting himself. I don't know. Look at it from Cousins' point of view. Who has Cousins' back? The Kings players respond with indignation at Cousins' behavior. The coach sends him back into the game full well knowing what was likely to happen. FULL WELL!! Everybody's perfect except that freak who plays center. Cuz is being selfish. Really? And no one else on the team is being selfish?

Now that I heard Cousins was injured, I feel a little different about his behavior.

If his behavior is inappropriate for your children to see, explain to them what is happening and whether you approve or disapprove. That's what parents do. That's how children learn proper behavior. If you, as a parent, passively sit back and assume your child will take on the behavior, good or bad, from a favorite sports star, you are not doing your job.
 
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According to DeMarcus from today's after practice presser, he asked Dunleavy if the contact was intentional and he responded "What if it was?".

Assuming that's true, I fully understand the retaliation. BTW, Cuz is likely to miss the next game, suspension or not, because of that shot to his knee ....
There was absolutely nothing wrong with his knee. I've played enough high level sports in my life to know a fake limp when I see it. That was a fake limp. He has mental issues.
 
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I hope that Grant has changed his mind about Dunleavy taking a cheap shot. That was his immediate reaction. I will not be surprised if the NBA takes no action against a coach's son with choir boy looks and suspect it was just an accident that he rolled into Cousins, knocking his knee askew. This is now on the NBA. They cannot take such a hard position about swearing, grimaces, and elbows yet allow a player try to do something that accidently or perhaps even purposefully (I doubt it) could have altered Cousins' career. If this was American football, Dunleavy would now have a target on his back. The NBA cannot hand out flagrant ones and twos but ignore what Dunleavy did. I also should think that if Cousins is injured, it should mitigate any further punishment the NBA should think is appropriate to Cousins. Certainly there can't be free season on trying to hurt Cousins.

I wonder how anyone of us would have reacted.

We'll see how this unfolds as it shouldn't end here. This "let's punish Cuz and that should resolve the issue" attitude cannot be satisfactory.
Have you ever played basketball before? Serious question.
 
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I'll say something which might be unpopular but has a place in sports. Cuz is our franchise player. Like it or not, he's our cornerstone going forward. He and Reke are our two most valuable assets by a large margin.

In sports and on teams, you can't let opponents take cheap shots at your franchise player and get away with it. What should have happened? After Cuz explained to the team in the timeout how Dunleavy tried to take out his knee, either JT or Chuck, or even JJ, should have been brought in, or even if not subbed in whichever of them is on the court coming out of the timeout should have laid out Dunleavy. Sent a message. You f*** with our franchise player and try to take him out, that won't fly, and you're going to get laid out for attempting such a punk move.

You can't leave it up to the franchise player himself to do defend himself. When Lebron is given a cheap shot, does he defend himself and retaliate? No, Haslem does. For OKC and with Boston it was Perkins. For Dal it was Chandler if Dirk got a cheap shot. For Chi it was Noah/Asik when Rose was laid out. Oakley in NY. Laimbeer in Det. I can go on but one problem with this team and it's been that way for awhile is they don't stand up for one another and protect one another. We're not tough. We don't have tough bigs. We don't commit hard fouls. We don't back each other up if there's an altercation. We back down, with IT being the exception. So here's Cuz getting a cheap shot at his knee and now he's got to defend himself. Should have never gotten to that situation.

Someone should have said in the timeout, calm down big fella, I've got you. Then the next time Dunleavy comes around a pick, hip check his a** into the first row. Hack the crap out of him next time he comes down the lane. Probably not a popular opinion, but in many sports you need to stick up for your best. And they do.
What you are failing to realize is that his teammates don't respect him so cheap shot or not (which I don't believe occurred) they aren't going to back him up because, quite frankly, he's been a bad teammate and a huge pain in the *** all year.
 

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You're a failure of a human being and an embarrassment for all Kings fans.
Why is the one person who bashes Cuz above and beyond everyone else, and is quick to label him a bad person also the person to bash other posters instead of just replying to the points in the post? Am I the only one who finds that to be quite sad?

You know, LWP77777777777, for someone so caught up in labeling others bad people and a failure of a human being, you don't seem to carry yourself or uphold yourself to the same level of expectations you hold others too.

And Padrino asked you to point out just one quote, one example of Cuz being a bad person off the court, which you of course declined to do. We're all waiting.
 
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You're a failure of a human being and an embarrassment for all Kings fans.
You've become the Keith smart of this site. You contribute nothing positive but frankly there are so many bigger things occupying the minds of kings fans that most people are just ignoring you until things settle. Hopefully like your insufferable coaching counterpart, both of you will be gone once we have our kings firmly planted home.
 
Exactly!! Padrino loves to talk about how he's the best talent we've seen in 28 years and how DMC has superstar talent. Blah, blah, blah. How come this talent hasn't been able to help us achieve a better winning percentage than .350 in 3 years? How come he hasn't led our team to the playoffs in 3 years? Maybe it's because he's a head case AND he's not nearly as talented as Padrino thinks he is.
Oh, he's about as immature as they come. He's a giant baby. But he is also as talented as they come. Put it this way: he takes too many jumpshots, forces too many passes, tries to drive far too often into double coverage, checks himself out of games when he feels, checks himself out of games because he thinks he's being unfairly treated by the refs, checks himself out of plays because he still wants to hash it out, has very few counter moves, can't jump a lick, lost any propensity to block a shot this season, rides the bench b/c of foul trouble, and still manages to get you 17/10/3. Do you know how many centers get you that this season? Horford and DMC. That's it. And do you know how many people can get that while still getting in their own damn way as much as DMC? Not a one. That's why people are preaching patience. A plain guy like Sacramento does not score a chick as hot as DMC that late in the game (draft) without a little crazy in her (him). If DMC stops fouling as much, maybe that's 20/10. If he stops shooting horrible 20 footers, maybe he's at 22/10. If he stops forcing the bad pass, his TO can drop to 2/game. If he runs back on D, he may pick up a couple extra boards.

Now youre talking about a guy who just has to stop being a bonehead and he's dropping 22/12 on you without even adding components to his game. He just has to stop taking away from his game.

He needs a coach that knows what he's doing and is able to walk the line between friend and coach, disciplinarian and protector against the media. He needs an Adelman.
 
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Bricklayer

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Have you ever played basketball before? Serious question.
Have you?

If you want to go try to run around diving at people's knees you are either going to get yourself kicked out of an organized game, or get your *** kicked in a pickup game. Dunleavy's sole defense would be oops, it was an accident. But he wasn't exactly oops my bad you alrighting his way around the court afterward now was he. That was a dangerous play. It was either intentionally dangerous, or accidentally dangerous.
 
Looks like Dunlevy was just boxing him out and Demarcus wasn't expecting it. I can see how DMC thought it was dirty but I don't think it was. Just a good, hard box out on a bigger, stronger player. It looks like Cousins is telling Dunleavy that he is going to put him on the ground. Coach needs to sit him down when that kind of stuff is said.

In the future DMC needs to be much more stealthy in his retaliation.
 
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Bricklayer

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Have you ever played basketball before? Serious question.
Have you?

If you want to go try to run around diving at people's knees you are either going to get yourself kicked out of an organized game, or get your *** kicked in a pickup game. Dunleavy's sole defense would be oops, it was an accident. But he wasn't exactly oops my bad you alrighting his way around the court afterward now was he. That was a dangerous play. It was either intentionally dangerous, or accidentally dangerous.
 
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Why is the one person who bashes Cuz above and beyond everyone else, and is quick to label him a bad person also the person to bash other posters instead of just replying to the points in the post? Am I the only one who finds that to be quite sad?

You know, LWP77777777777, for someone so caught up in labeling others bad people and a failure of a human being, you don't seem to carry yourself or uphold yourself to the same level of expectations you hold others too.

And Padrino asked you to point out just one quote, one example of Cuz being a bad person off the court, which you of course declined to do. We're all waiting.
Wait all you want. I've compiled a list of off court incidents that he's had over the years a number of times. I don't need to do it again. I guess you forgot about Sean Elliot, Donte Greene, Daniel Shapiro, etc??
 
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Have you?

If you want to go try to run around diving at people's knees you are either going to get yourself kicked out of an organized game, or get your *** kicked in a pickup game. Dunleavy's sole defense would be oops, it was an accident. But he wasn't exactly oops my bad you alrighting his way around the court afterward now was he. That was a dangerous play. It was either intentionally dangerous, or accidentally dangerous.
There was no way it was intentional. He had lost his balance.
 
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Have you?

If you want to go try to run around diving at people's knees you are either going to get yourself kicked out of an organized game, or get your *** kicked in a pickup game. Dunleavy's sole defense would be oops, it was an accident. But he wasn't exactly oops my bad you alrighting his way around the court afterward now was he. That was a dangerous play. It was either intentionally dangerous, or accidentally dangerous.
Cuz will never do wrong in your eyes other than you calling him immature. Are you a defense attorney by chance?
 
One thing I will say about Mike Dunleavy is yeah he did a dirty play but at least when Cousins got him back with the elbow he didn't flop around like a ***** and throw his head back and make it dramatic like 99% of NBA players would have (e.g Vince Carter). Dirty play but he took the payback well and didn't exaggerate and make it look worse than it was.
Watch the video again. He is not going for an elbow to the head. His arm goes to a 90 degree angle. Dunleavy is hunched down is why he gets hit in the head. Also notice Dunleavy has a hand full of jersey and is pushing Cuz which is why Cuz is pushing off to get thru the screen.
 
I'll say something which might be unpopular but has a place in sports. Cuz is our franchise player. Like it or not, he's our cornerstone going forward. He and Reke are our two most valuable assets by a large margin.

In sports and on teams, you can't let opponents take cheap shots at your franchise player and get away with it. What should have happened? After Cuz explained to the team in the timeout how Dunleavy tried to take out his knee, either JT or Chuck, or even JJ, should have been brought in, or even if not subbed in whichever of them is on the court coming out of the timeout should have laid out Dunleavy. Sent a message. You f*** with our franchise player and try to take him out, that won't fly, and you're going to get laid out for attempting such a punk move.

You can't leave it up to the franchise player himself to do defend himself. When Lebron is given a cheap shot, does he defend himself and retaliate? No, Haslem does. For OKC and with Boston it was Perkins. For Dal it was Chandler if Dirk got a cheap shot. For Chi it was Noah/Asik when Rose was laid out. Oakley in NY. Laimbeer in Det. I can go on but one problem with this team and it's been that way for awhile is they don't stand up for one another and protect one another. We're not tough. We don't have tough bigs. We don't commit hard fouls. We don't back each other up if there's an altercation. We back down, with IT being the exception. So here's Cuz getting a cheap shot at his knee and now he's got to defend himself. Should have never gotten to that situation.

Someone should have said in the timeout, calm down big fella, I've got you. Then the next time Dunleavy comes around a pick, hip check his a** into the first row. Hack the crap out of him next time he comes down the lane. Probably not a popular opinion, but in many sports you need to stick up for your best. And they do.
This is an excellent point. And, unfortunately for right now, it's an example of the lack of leadership and direction in this franchise, starting with the coke heads at the top. This is the trickle down effect of no clear direction with the franchise.

This is exactly why everything will change with new owners. It's not that this group is inherently selfish. It's that there is no real reason or purpose to have that kind of unity. This is just leadership 101. And you can't sit there and nit pick and say one of the players should be the leader. Doesn't work that way. They actually don't have the power. Every good organization, it comes from the top. The very top. That then empowers the floor leaders. Everybody's got to have everybody's back all the way to the top.

You know what's funny? I'll tell you who the real leader of the Kings is right now. It's the freakin mayor. No doubt. It's KJ. He's actually the only person who has the power, and who is acting on that power, in the interests of the team. The Maloofs haven't been acting in the interests of the team for years. That's why Chuck doesn't back up the franchise player when he gets a cheap shot.

This information about enforcers should probably be kept from LWP777 who needs to have his role models intact for his kids.
 
There was absolutely nothing wrong with his knee. I've played enough high level sports in my life to know a fake limp when I see it. That was a fake limp. He has mental issues.
If you're serious in standing behind these comments and acting as if you really know how DeMarcus' knee feels, then I feel very confident in saying that it is you that has the mental issues. Megalomania, narcissism, delusions of grandeur .. take your pick.

Did you not see his knee buckle on the replay? Did you not see him struggle to get to his feet in an effort to go after whomever submarined him?

Furthermore, the moment someone drops the "I played high level sports" card, you immediately know that they didn't. Not only that, whatever level you did play doesn't at all compare to the NBA. Not even remotely close.

It's totally irrelevant anyway as the contact to his knee could have hurt anybody at any level anywhere. The fact that you're dismissing the possibility that he is a bit hurt demonstrates exactly how much you don't know and how worthless your biased opinion is. Something tells me that even had DeMarcus' knee broken in half, you'd still be finding a way to disparage him and claim that he's faking it. Bad form.

I'll go ahead and step aside to let you continue on your crusade. All the forum regulars are aware of your M.O. by now anyway ...
 
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You've become the Keith smart of this site. You contribute nothing positive but frankly there are so many bigger things occupying the minds of kings fans that most people are just ignoring you until things settle. Hopefully like your insufferable coaching counterpart, both of you will be gone once we have our kings firmly planted home.
I've been following the team since day 1. I'm not going anywhere pal. You just can't handle the truth.
 
Cousins is immature. He is also talented. If you think that he is a talent that can take you to a championship then his immaturity issues are just kind of a nuisance.

He will most likely outgrow his immaturity.
 
Watch the video again. He is not going for an elbow to the head. His arm goes to a 90 degree angle. Dunleavy is hunched down is why he gets hit in the head. Also notice Dunleavy has a hand full of jersey and is pushing Cuz which is why Cuz is pushing off to get thru the screen.
Not only that, Boogie must have eyes in the back of his head because he never looks back to locate Dunleavy before throwing the elbow. Lucky for him, he hit his target exactly where intended ;)
 
You're a failure of a human being and an embarrassment for all Kings fans.
hey, i'm very glad that you, LWP777, could be the one to bring this fact to my attention on today of all days. i mean, failure that i am, i just received notification this morning from the graduate studies office at california state university, chico that i was both nominated and selected to serve as a keynote speaker at our commencement ceremony in may. and, failure that i am, i of course accepted the honor, having just graduated from my program with distinction, and all...

:rolleyes:

you're not very good at this arguing thing. i will address you no further. good day, sir...
 
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If you're serious in standing behind these comments and acting as if you really know how DeMarcus' knee feels, then I feel very confident in saying that it is you that has the mental issues. Megalomania, narcissism, delusions of grandeur .. take your pick.

Did you not see his knee buckle on the replay? Did you not see him struggle to get to his feet in an effort to go after whomever submarined him?

Furthermore, the moment someone drops the "I played high level sports" card, you immediately know that they didn't. Not only that, whatever level you did play doesn't at all compare to the NBA. Not even remotely close.

It's totally irrelevant anyway as the contact to his knee could have hurt anybody at any level anywhere. The fact that you're dismissing the possibility that he is a bit hurt demonstrates exactly how much you don't know and how worthless your biased opinion is. Something tells me that even had DeMarcus' knee broken in half, you'd still be finding a way to disparage him and claim that he's faking it. Bad form.

I'll go ahead and step aside to let you continue on your crusade. All the forum regulars are aware of your M.O. by now anyway ...
You'll see. There is nothing wrong with his knee. If there is ill eat my words
 
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hey, i'm very glad that you, LWP777, could be the one to bring this fact to my attention on today of all days. i mean, failure that i am, i just received notification this morning from the graduate studies office at california state university, chico that i was both nominated and selected to serve as a keynote speaker at our commencement ceremony in may. and, failure that i am, i of course accepted the honor, having just graduated from my program with distinction, and all...

:rolleyes:

you're not very good at this arguing thing. i will address you no further. good day, sir...
Way to promote yourself on a Kings blog! We are all so proud of you!
 
Looks like Dunlevy was just boxing him out and Demarcus wasn't expecting it. I can see how DMC thought it was dirty but I don't think it was. Just a good, hard box out on a bigger, stronger player. It looks like Cousins is telling Dunleavy that he is going to put him on the ground. Coach needs to sit him down when that kind of stuff is said.

In the future DMC needs to be much more stealthy in his retaliation.
Not even close. That is 100% intentional. He leads with his right hip. Plants with his left, leads with his right hip. Watch him pushing off of his left foot.
 
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hey, i'm very glad that you, LWP777, could be the one to bring this fact to my attention on today of all days. i mean, failure that i am, i just received notification this morning from the graduate studies office at california state university, chico that i was both nominated and selected to serve as a keynote speaker at our commencement ceremony in may. and, failure that i am, i of course accepted the honor, having just graduated from my program with distinction, and all...

:rolleyes:

you're not very good at this arguing thing. i will address you no further. good day, sir...
You would think with all that education they would have taught you how to capitalize certain words!
 
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