John Galt
Starter
You think NBA tv will cut to the press conference?
Countdown to Muss' being "Trumped"
- Thread starter Mozart
- Start date
You think NBA tv will cut to the press conference?
I have no idea. They don't have anything on which they can't interrupt, but I don't know whether they have any arrangements to get a feed from one of the local stations or not. I'm sure that there will be a sound bite on the evening news, and something immediate on the Internet, but no guesses beyond that.
I suppose it might be worth trying KHTK.
Friday morning.
But what do I know?
So did I call it or what?
The Bee article was posted at 11:55 am. 
Kingster
Hall of Famer
Personally, I'm in favor of a hard-*** who'se backed up by his owner when he has problems with a player - Sloan, or a Pop, or a Riley. Rick reminded me of the ultra-permissive parent, asking his children what they wanting to do, never standing up the star. Our owners seem to look for a hole to crawl into when there is a player-coach conflict. I wish they would be like Miller in Utah, who backs up Sloan and tells 'em to Shut Up when they ***** and moan about their roles on the team. But that's very unlikely, I realize.
Wuster
Starter
Got the firing time about right, but haven't heard whether there's been a news conference
Bricklayer
Don't Make Me Use The Bat
everybody always likes those guys becuase it sounds so neat and tough.
What they don't realize is that most of them are just insecure *******s in a grown up world where they can't intimidate their much larger/stronger/richer/more famous charges just by being a loudmouth. Works fine being a tough guy with high school kids. Not so well with grown men with a sense of entitlement. Pop/Riles/Sloan are a special and largely dying breed (and Pop and Riles are well known for being loyal friends/fatehr figures off the court that helps sugarcoat the hardass part). And part of why they can still get away with it today is because they are so firmly established as legends -- they basically do still have stature above their players. Very hard for a newbie little nobody to come in with that kind of attitude without the players just tuning him out. At least the vets. Might be able to get a few years out of a guy like that with a team full of young kids. Only young guy in that class may be Scott Skiles, who has been fired before, and may be again. His kids are growing up, his team underacheiving, and you can see how his attitude went over with the old vets like Big Ben and PJ. Need them young and dumb if you're planning on screaming at them for any length fo time.
Rockmeister
All-Star
No thanks.
kennadog
Dog On It!
I don't think so, but the Kings website has the official press release posted.Got the firing time about right, but haven't heard whether there's been a news conference
Wuster
Starter
I was within an hour of that, too, so I really should get to Tahoe and do some gambling
I was an hour late.
Me too.
kingsfaninhumboldt
Prospect
It was a day late for me, but I'll take it. Hopefully, the Kings will upgrade at coach in the off season. Shoot, anything is an upgrade from Musselman.
Kingster
Hall of Famer
It has absolutely nothing to do with inimidation, screaming, or being a loudmouth. Nothing. It has to do with being clear about your principles and accepting nothing less. It has to do with standing up for what you know is right. They call that integrity. What it's not about is playing your cripple star because you think he may cause waves in the locker room, instead of sitting him on the bench. They call that "yellow". "Dying breed"? No. Rare, yes. It always is. I'll take the rare breed anyday over the gutless politican/coach who acts more like a mediator than a teacher, more like a negotiator than a mentor, and more like a salesman than a coach.
The era of screaming like a wildman is coming to an end, whether you choose to accept it or not. It IS a dying breed because it's mostly not effective. Bricklayer made it pretty clear so I won't repeat his arguments but I will state that it doesn't take guts to act like a bully. If a coach cannot get his point across without screaming and bullying whomever he's trying to talk to, he really needs to look at himself.
Coaching IS salesmanship. It's about getting the players to buy into your vision and what you want to accomplish. Yelling at them - as we clearly saw this season - isn't going to do that, especially if they don't respect the person doing the yelling.
So Rick Adelman was "yellow?"? Wow... just wow. Talk about delusions.
Adelman and the front office made a decision to try and get Webber back into the flow because they felt they would desperately need him for the playoffs. Was it the right decision? In retrospect, apparently not but that doesn't make Adelman "yellow" and I'm really amazed you would even make that kind of comment. I have, up until now, thought you had more basketball acumen than that.
Regardless, this isn't about the only winning coach in the history of the Sacramento Kings. There were reasons on and off the court why Adelman was a success. And one of them was the mutual respect between him and his players. That's not "yellow" unless you want to call it golden. It was so clearly obvious this year there was no kind of respect that this shouldn't even be a topic of discussion.
Adelman "yellow"... again, that just floors me.
kennadog
Dog On It!
You do realize that none of those are mutually exclusive? My guess is that the best coaches are all of those things on any given day in dealing with their players.
It takes all of those skills to identify people's assets and weakness and put them in the best position for them to be successful within a team situation. It takes all sorts of skills to get people to believe in your vision enough to not only go along with it, but fight with you to make it happen.
It takes great skills to get a disparate group of people, each with their own personal needs and desires, to sublimate that to accomplish something bigger than any of them could accomplish on their own. It takes a skillful leader to make each individual feel like they are just as important to the team's success, regardless of their role. And, in basketball, you really need your best players supporting you, because they are the ones others will follow. So you have to reach them first.
It doesn't matter what your "principles" are or how hard you stick to them, if you can't lead and get people to want to follow you. To me, it seemed like Musselman came in and tried to make players fit his vision of a basketball team, instead of envisioning a team that would make the best use of the players he had to work with. You can't make people be what they aren't. And if you can't be what your supposed leader wants, pretty soon you resent that he doesn't see what you can do and can be.
Not only that, but as soon as things weren't working, it was pretty clear that once the players couldn't fit his singular vision, Muss really was lost from that point on. He didn't seem to know how to adapt or change to make things work. And there's something a good leader needs in abundance, the ability to adapt and change, to alter the vision when success requires it.
Adelman never had a superstar and there's people who might argue he never had a star. But it's clear he knew how to get the best out of the players he was given and knew how to get most of those players to play together, for him and for each other. And I very much doubt he had to give up any of his life principles to do that.
Similar threads
- Yahoo! Sports - NBA -
- Kings News Links
