Could we trade 5th overall to Grizz for #12 and #25?

[Anthony1]

Ok, so lets say worse comes to worse, and Favors and Cousins are both gonzo. We could stay at 5, and maybe reach for a big like Monroe, etc, etc, or what about trading down 7 spots, and picking up a late 1st round pick? The Grizzlies have 2 late first round picks with #25 and #28. I'm sure Geoff Petrie can work magic with both the 12th pick, and the 25th (or 28th). Who knows who might slip to 12th? Maybe Udoh or Aldrich or Davis. Most likely Whiteside will be there in a worse case scenario. And then, very late in the first, you can grab a guy like Gani Lawal from Georgia Tech. Anybody that has seen tons of Favors highlights has surely seen Lawal in action. The more I saw those clips, the more I started thinking that Lawal is actually farther along in his development. Could you imagine Lawal actually ending up to be the better Yellow Jacket? I know it sounds crazy, but still....

Imagine welcoming these Kings to your team next year:

12th overall = Ekpe Udoh ( I can dream can't I?)
25th or 28th overall = Gani Lawal
33rd overall (3rd pick in the 2nd round) = Jordan Crawford

 

[pdxKingsFan]

If they threw in Thabeet it might be interesting.

 

[Spike]

If they threw in Thabeet it might be interesting.

Yes. Mostly because there isn't a true impact player to be had at the 12 or below, just players you hope will pan out. Thabeet at least gives the Kings size and a wide body down low. We'd be better defensively, for sure.

 

[Kingstime]

If Thabeet gets thrown in GP should do it, then with the picks you hope a guy like Udoh is still there and maybe(Doubtfully) James Anderson at the 25, he's the best shooting prospect in the draft IMO so I doubt he slips into the 20's.

 

[pdxKingsFan]

What is their cap situation?

How about 5 + Noc for 12, 25 and Thabeet? Or just 12 and Thabeet if they balk?

Make the offer on draft day the minute we go on the clock if the top 4 go as expected.

 

[91sickness]

How about #5 and Garcia to the Twolves for #4 and filler if need be. They don't have the dilemma of drafting cousins when already having Jefferson n love and get a starting 2 and 3 and Brewer becomes their 6th man scoring punch coming off the bench. I think Cousins does so much more for our team than Johnson would or any of the B level players we would get in trading down. We already have 11 role players, we need a legit big man or another "star" player to pair with Reke.

 

[Anthony1]

I think Cousins does so much more for our team than Johnson would or any of the B level players we would get in trading down. We already have 11 role players, we need a legit big man or another "star" player to pair with Reke.

I agree with the Cousins thing. But, regarding the second part of your take, this is why I don't want to just sit at 5, and take somebody like Aminu or Monroe or whoever. They are mostly B level players, and sure, a few of them will pan out to be more than that, but it's such a crapshoot. That's why I think dropping 7 spots, from 5 to 12, isn't that big a deal, because the dropoff in talent level isn't very significant. Especially if a few teams make some crazy, head scratching picks between 5 and 11. Somebody pretty decent could fall right into our laps at 12.

If they threw in Thabeet it might be interesting.

Not gonna happen. They aren't going to give up on the 2nd overall pick so quickly.

How about #5 and Garcia to the Twolves for #4 and filler if need be. They don't have the dilemma of drafting cousins when already having Jefferson n love and get a starting 2 and 3 and Brewer becomes their 6th man scoring punch coming off the bench. I think Cousins does so much more for our team than Johnson would or any of the B level players we would get in trading down. We already have 11 role players, we need a legit big man or another "star" player to pair with Reke.

I kinda like this idea actually. I think Garcia is the most expendable of our SF's, assuming we aren't forced to draft W. Johnson. If we draft W.Johnson, then I would say that D. Greene is the most expendable of the SF's, because his game is probably more similar to Wesley's than say Caspi or Garcia.

So, we sacrifice Garcia, to lock down either Cousins or Favors. I don't mind that deal, and Minnesota might even be willing to go for it, because they might rather avoid getting another big anyways. It might be just enough incentive for them to drop down one slot. It's funny cause 90 percent of the mock drafts out there (post-lottery) have Minny taking W.Johnson. So we might just be able to sit at 5 and have Cousins fall right into our laps. But if we give them Garcia for free, that just might seal the deal in them skipping on Cousins.

 

[91sickness]

Agreed. Our team needs a guy like Cousins who has star potential at a position we desperately need. Trading down in this draft for say 12 and 25 only gets us two more roll players on a team that is loaded with roll players. This draft was supposed to be the year we added another stud to play along side Reke and all of our young exciting players. That is the road-map to success and if we to make a sacrifice in giving up depth (at our deepest) position then so be it. If we sit on our hands we are going to continue to win 25-30 games for the next 3-4 years and watch Reke walk we need to start putting players around him so we can build a championship caliber team. That is what will bring the fans back and hopefully expedite the new arena process...DO IT PETRIE!!

 

[Anthony1]

Agreed. Our team needs a guy like Cousins who has star potential at a position we desperately need. Trading down in this draft for say 12 and 25 only gets us two more roll players on a team that is loaded with roll players. This draft was supposed to be the year we added another stud to play along side Reke and all of our young exciting players. That is the road-map to success and if we to make a sacrifice in giving up depth (at our deepest) position then so be it. If we sit on our hands we are going to continue to win 25-30 games for the next 3-4 years and watch Reke walk we need to start putting players around him so we can build a championship caliber team. That is what will bring the fans back and hopefully expedite the new arena process...DO IT PETRIE!!

IF..... we get Cousins. Absolutely. But if we aren't able to move up to 4, and if Cousins and Favors are gone (very likely), then I don't like picking at 5. Quite honestly, 5 is one of the worst picks in this draft, in terms of talent level for the price you're paying. (Assuming Cousins or Favor's don't slip). I could very easily see GP take a guy like Aldrich at 5 (God HELP US!), who could have slipped to 12 had we not taken him. That's why I think moving down to 12 (if we can't get one of the top 4) makes sense. Sure, we might not have our pick among the second tier, but the 2nd tier is a crapshoot anyways, and there will be mistakes made in the 7 picks between 5 and 12. We will still come away with a talented player that might have just as much chance of being a star as the guy at 5. Plus, we pick up a late first rounder, and with Petries skills, I'm sure he snag somebody that can be a factor. Petrie has done well in the past with picks later in the first round, plucking diamonds in the rough.

 

[pdxKingsFan]

Not gonna happen. They aren't going to give up on the 2nd overall pick so quickly.

They have already tried to move him for guys you wouldn't blow a 2nd overall pick on. If they think there is value at the 5 they will go for it. They may lose Gay, Johnson could possibly fit into that role.

 

[Megalodon]

I feel as if we will stay put and be content with what fate lets fall to us, but ...

I think if we wanted to trade our #5 for Thabeet and #12 it would definitely be enough. Getting that extra late first rounder would be epic IMO.

 

[Anthony1]

They have already tried to move him for guys you wouldn't blow a 2nd overall pick on. If they think there is value at the 5 they will go for it. They may lose Gay, Johnson could possibly fit into that role.

Well, I think they might be willing to give us Thabeet and one of the their late 1st rounders, but I'm not sure they would be willing to give us Thabeet and 12, and I can absolutely guarantee that they won't give us Thabeet, 12 and a late first rounder.

I would be willing to take Thabeet and 12 straight up, assuming Cousins and Favors are long gone. Thabeet might never pan out, but then again, he just might need some seasoning and time.

 

[MassachusettsKingsFan]

I would do this trade ( with Thabeet in it ) and never look back. Lots of good bigs will be available at 12. Orton, Udoh, Montiejunas, Patterson, Sanders ... alot of interesting guys.

Another 2 players I really like at the 12 range is Avery Bradley or Eric Bledsoe. Both guys could fit in nicely with Reke, and are substantially better defenders than Udrih.

 

[Megalodon]

I would do this trade ( with Thabeet in it ) and never look back. Lots of good bigs will be available at 12. Orton, Udoh, Montiejunas, Patterson, Sanders ... alot of interesting guys.

Another 2 players I really like at the 12 range is Avery Bradley or Eric Bledsoe. Both guys could fit in nicely with Reke, and are substantially better defenders than Udrih.

But would we really need to draft another big if we got Thabeet ? Maybe someone along the lines of Henry or even Bradley for the SG position.