aww man someone give Rondae a job!
[NBA] Comments that don’t warrant a thread (JUL/TDOS)
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Padrino
All-Star
I cannot express how excited I am for a future utterly polluted by junk information, junk images, and junk video, all constructed under the guise of "technological progress", but with the ultimate intent to sell me junk I don't need. We truly live in the Dumbest Timeline™.
Section 101
All-Star
how much better will in shape Luka be?
Tetsujin
The Game Thread Dude
Also how long will he stay “in shape”?
I honestly don't know what is more hilarious.
1) An article (allegedly) written by two Certified Strength and Conditioning Specialists, where the authors don't understand that they are reporting that Luka, who was never considered terribly athletic, had a max vertical jump in the top 3.5% of max verts recorded at the combine in the past 10 years
2) That Luka just went along with it (at least, if you read his response in the article) and pretended that he did mark that vertical, and that he can do even better now
Don't forget the part about how it's all running on the backbone of code that was written by the worst people.
kingsboi
Hall of Famer
ah yes, the yearly offseason Player X either gets shredded or adds 20 pounds of muscle to help the offseason woes and give a topic to discuss. In general, if Luka remains disciplined through out the season with this approach, he won't be a much better player than he is but he will be more durable and able to handle defensive pressure better, assuming his conditioning gets worked on. If I'm his trainer, I'm having him run in sand dunes and up mountains. Wouldn't worry too much about weight training the legs. Was watching a podcast with former Suns trainer Cory Schlesinger, some great material here for anyone who likes exercise science, kinesiology, biomechanics and other similar subjects.
iowamcnabb
Hall of Famer
Nearly 110 million in career earnings.
"Made enough money to buy Miami
But I pissed it away so fast
Never meant to last, never meant to last"
iowamcnabb
Hall of Famer
If he spent thirty thousand a month for his entire 16 year career that would be just under 6 million dollars total. And yet here we are writing bad checks for less than 300k.
kingsboi
Hall of Famer
can't state this enough, but certain millionaires or individuals that can't handle all that money seek thrills to switch up from the routine. do we remember this incident?
Suns' Morris Twins Charged With Felony Assault
The Phoenix Suns' Markieff and Marcus Morris face felony assault charges stemming from a beating that landed a man in the hospital in January. According to police, the Morris twins were among a group of five men who assaulted 36-year-old Erik Hood outside a high school basketball tournament in...
and then there is this too before the NBA
PurpleHaze
All-Star
Fox moving to Canada? That would be ironic with its high taxes considering one reason wanted out of high state income tax Cali was Texas having no state income tax.
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Former NBA star Gilbert Arenas and five other defendants – including a suspected high-level member of an Israeli transnational organized crime group – were arrested today on a federal indictment alleging they operated an illegal gambling business in which high-stakes poker games were played at an Encino mansion Arenas owned.
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Former NBA star Gilbert Arenas and five other defendants – including a suspected high-level member of an Israeli transnational organized crime group – were arrested today on a federal indictment alleging they operated an illegal gambling business in which high-stakes poker games were played at...
Section 101
All-Star
ironic? no Karma yes.Fox moving to Canada? That would be ironic with its high taxes considering one reason wanted out of high state income tax Cali was Texas having no state income tax.
Spurs could acquire $224 million superstar, cut ties with Wembanyama's new star guard
The San Antonio Spurs had the second overall pick in the 2024 draft fall into their lap; now they might be looking to go all in with this blockbuster hypothetical trade.
Insomniacal Fan
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The billionaire owners of tech companies "write code" in the same sense in that they "play basketball" through owning NBA teams.
Or did you actually mean the software engineers at these companies were the "worst people"?
Sluggah
All-Star
…future?
All of the above. You didn't think that the programmers were all value-neutral people, or that their code wasn't informed by their own biases, did you?
The people signing the checks ultimately have the final say, but the programmers are complicit.
Insomniacal Fan
Starter
Ok, thanks for clarifying. Some owners like to portray themselves as if the company depends on their work directing details of implementation, I wasn't sure if this idea was convincing.
I think you'd have a hard time finding a value that the programmers at these companies all have in common (maybe ambition.) Coding is not an expression of someone's value system, it's pretty close to a purely functional activity. Is scoring points for the Lakers of a different moral value than scoring points for the Jazz?
Do you think programmers are more complicit than anyone else who works for a billionaire?
Sluggah
All-Star
While I don’t want to truly jump into this discussion, I will flag that I think the word ‘code’ in this context is a bit of a misnomer (as is ‘programmer’). It’s the training of the underlying model that is in question; in which case, IMO, ‘value’ is likely inescapable, and honestly, the one thing an owner could explicitly direct implementation details upon.
They don't have to have it "in common."
The hell it ain't. Unconscious bias is a real thing (e.g. the soap dispensers that wouldn't work on darker-skinned people, because the engineers didn't foresee the problem of the LED not triggering for darker pigmentations because, in turn, it never even occurred to them that it was a problem worthy of consideration, because it wasn't something that they would ever have to deal with).
I think that the people who code the algorithms which influence/determine how information is aggregated and disseminated to end users are orders of magnitude more complicit than the guy who files the payroll reports, yeah.
Insomniacal Fan
Starter
I think when it comes to the "backbone of code" that runs the training, which is what Slim originally referred to, this terminology is appropriate. The processes that train LLMs are implemented by "programmers" as "code".
Insomniacal Fan
Starter
Why label a group of people collectively as the worst if they don't have any values in common?
I accept that unconscious bias is a real thing. I'm skeptical that the soap dispenser is an example of engineers expressing their unconscious bias. Where's the root cause analysis? Who's the engineer? It's hard to even find the company that made the dispenser.
LLMs (and AI/Machine Learning systems in general) are inherently biased, they pick words randomly from a distribution that is arbitrary. To Sluggah's point above, the impact that the programmers coding the training infrastructure have over how that is biased, is about nil. Probably couldn't affect it even if they wanted to.
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