Chris Sheridan Chat: Kings should pursue Thabeet before Dalembert

[Bricklayer]

shot blocking and rebounding can easily be taught...

uh, no. In PARTICULAR the shotblocking. That's every bit as intuitive a gift (and depending on physical gifts) as passing is. Its something guys either have or don't have from a very young age. In fact something that normally fades with age as you lose your mobility and explosiveness, not something that is picked up.

I would agree BTW that Hawes' passing is important with Reke and Kevin paired up. I simply don't agree that Reke and Kevin should be paired up.

 

[Sptsjunkie]

I still like the potential of dealing through Philly to try to get something done -- swing Dalmebert to Memphis and Thabeet over to us. Dalembert is on the market, and if we could get him moved to Memphis, then they basically get a veteran version of what they are looking for from Thabeet. A here and now roleplayer, but the right kind of roelplayer and good enoguh to cover their butts unless Thabeet really excels.

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Hmmm, Dalembert to the Griz would be an interesting twist I hadn't considered. However, that's also a lot of salary for them to be taking on. I still don't think they would pull the trigger, but if they could ship off a bad contract or two and get Sammy D, they might pull the trigger. Especially is getting rid of those contracts helped them keep Gay. I may have to play with the trade machine after work.

 

[Aenadin]

uh, no. In PARTICULAR the shotblocking. That's every bit as intuitive a gift (and depending on physical gifts) as passing is. Its something guys either have or don't have from a very young age. In fact something that normally fades with age as you lose your mobility and explosiveness, not something that is picked up.

I would agree BTW that Hawes' passing is important with Reke and Kevin paired up. I simply don't agree that Reke and Kevin should be paired up.

better positioning on defense and rebounding could be taught. but with his BBall IQ i think he can get it up there.

reke and martin shouldnt be paired up... lets see how a reke and garcia tandem would work and martin comes off the bench... that solves our woes at the bench production. reke and garcia, then beno and martin

we need a PF who can block and defend now.

 

[TheFifthMookie]

wow are you a little slow?

ok for the special members on this board....

first...Sheridan is the ESPN analyst that was holding the chat...

sec...When the question came up about DALEMBERT being the player we should be making a move for Sheridan (thats the ESPN guy again) replied with...

...."NO... they should be making a move for Thabeet OVER Dalembert"

was it really that hard for you to handle.... how is that not accurate??? wow what other ways of interpreting that are there?

Dude take it down a notch. your insinuation that the people who run this place are slow or dense is really unnecessary. start contributing half as much to this site as they have in the past and then find your voice to call people out.

 

[CruzDude]

The Kings need help NOW in the front court. A VET who can defend and rebound and be a mentor to our kids, someone likely a backup on a top 15 team who could gain playoff help with one of our 3's but not Omri.

Thabeet absolutely not. There is a reason he isn't cutting it at the Griz.

Dalembert could do if he would be happy with our crew and they take KT to clear cap space and some throw in.

But from there haven't really seen anyone pop to the surface much less from a team that really needs a decent 3.

A list of possibilities, not necessarily anyone I would want but a partial list of bigs under 30 yr. in eastern conference that could be had:

Rasho Nesterovic about $2M
Darko Milicic $7.5M
Roy Hibbert $1.5M
Kwame Brown $4M (arrgggghhhhhh!)
Randolph Morris $855,189
Zaza Pachulia $4.75M
note: Morris/Pachulia (Hawks) are 2 of 4 centers there behind Horford
Mohammed $6.466M (but is 32 yr)
Diop $6.0M
Ajinca $1.3M
note; these last 3 all on Bobcats who also have 4 centers

anyway, just some ideas.

In the west I've always been a fan of Biedrins who does everything average and better and runs the floor well. hmmmm

 

[Bricklayer]

The Kings need help NOW in the front court. A VET who can defend and rebound and be a mentor to our kids, someone likely a backup on a top 15 team who could gain playoff help with one of our 3's but not Omri.

Thabeet absolutely not. There is a reason he isn't cutting it at the Griz.

Dalembert could do if he would be happy with our crew and they take KT to clear cap space and some throw in.

But from there haven't really seen anyone pop to the surface much less from a team that really needs a decent 3.

A list of possibilities, not necessarily anyone I would want but a partial list of bigs under 30 yr. in eastern conference that could be had:

Rasho Nesterovic about $2M
Darko Milicic $7.5M
Roy Hibbert $1.5M
Kwame Brown $4M (arrgggghhhhhh!)
Randolph Morris $855,189
Zaza Pachulia $4.75M
note: Morris/Pachulia (Hawks) are 2 of 4 centers there behind Horford
Mohammed $6.466M (but is 32 yr)
Diop $6.0M
Ajinca $1.3M
note; these last 3 all on Bobcats who also have 4 centers

anyway, just some ideas.

In the west I've always been a fan of Biedrins who does everything average and better and runs the floor well. hmmmm

a) we really don't NEED help "now", as in for the rest of this season. Would certinaly take it, but we are already once gain looking toward the future here. Next year. The year after.

b) Hasheem Thabeet "not cutting it" with the Grizz is largely ebcause he is sitting behind what has amusingly tunred into maybe the best C/PF tandem in the game. Gasol averaged 15 and 10 in 36 min. Randolph 21 and 12 in 38min. And there just is not much time. Furthermore neithe guy has missed even one game this season due to injury, so there has been no opportunity to breakout and show what he can or cannot do.

All we know is that he was 2x DPOY of the year in college, that he is #2 in the entire NBA in blks/48min (Javale McGee is the only guy above him) and that the guy who supposedly can't rebound is tied for #22 in the league in rebs/48 with Kendrick Perkins, and just ahead of Luis Scola and Al Horford. Now typically I am not going to extend 11mpg stats out to 30mpg and call it definitive. But the numbers certainly throw a monkey wrench into the gears of those trying to claim he's not getting anything done. He's not getting any CHANCE to get anything done, which is not the same thing. Meanwhile while its chicken and egg, everytime this season he has played more than 15 minutes he's put up serious numbers:

Nov 27 18min 9pts 6reb 3blk
Dec 04 17min 4pts 5reb 2blk
Dec 13 21min 5pts 5reb 5blk
Dec 14 18min 2pts 8reb 4blk
Dec 28 18min 6pts 6reb 1blk
Jan 02 20min 10pts 5reb 3blk
Jan 15 17min 5pts 9reb 3blk
Jan 22 23min 0pts 9reb 4blk
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19.0min 5.1pts 6.6reb 3.1blk

sound intriguing now?

 

[Kingster]

100% agree.... i just have this suspicion that its gonna cost us JT... but i guess pretty obvious that were lottery bound now and also just as obvious that we should be picking another big... so maybe if not another trade for a PF then through the draft...

Hmm. You know JT's offense is starting to remind me of Thabeet. Maybe that is a fair deal.

 

[Sptsjunkie]

The Kings need help NOW in the front court. A VET who can defend and rebound and be a mentor to our kids, someone likely a backup on a top 15 team who could gain playoff help with one of our 3's but not Omri.

Thabeet absolutely not. There is a reason he isn't cutting it at the Griz.

This seems a bit harsh. Look, I was down on Thabeet in the draft. I though he was a waste as the #2 pick and I wanted no piece of him at #4. I thought we needed to go for higher upside, a potential star, and I didn't see it with Thabeet.

With that said, if we can trade for him without giving up a critical piece, why not? I mean he's 21, 7'2'', already a very good shotblocker, and although he's a below average rebounder at the moments (saw Brick's stats, but a lot of those are in garbage time) there's no reason to believe that 2 years down the road he can't develop into at least an average if not above average one. He's locked into a reasonable contract for 3 more years. And at the very least should become a Keon Clark/Gadzuric type. Although, he has the potential to be even better. Perhaps a poor man's Deke. Certainly a taller Theo Ratliff type (which once upon a time was a good thing). Any team could use this kind of specialist.

So, yeah if we can swap a role playing wing for a role playing big who doesn't demand the ball, that's a trade you make 10 times out of 10.