Carmichael Dave innuendo, "We are officially at Defcon One"
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If the Aldridge tweet is true, it's not Cuz's agents holding things up as much as it was Vivek being more than willing to watch this season go belly-up until a team 3000 miles away fired their coach and forced his hand.
I'm surprised so many are buying into the leaks that this is Cuz's agents holding things up. Maybe true, but our FO has proven to be quite dishonest. And how would they have so much pull within our FO now when they had little pull in regards to firing Malone or promoting Corbin? Our GM and owner do what they want, whenever they want and we're supposed to suddenly believe it was Cuz and/or his agent dictating what our FO has been doing over the last 2 months? I don't really buy that.
I'm sure they've made their feelings known but doubt that's the reason we've gone two months with Corbin and are contacting Karl now.
I'm surprised so many are buying into the leaks that this is Cuz's agents holding things up. Maybe true, but our FO has proven to be quite dishonest. And how would they have so much pull within our FO now when they had little pull in regards to firing Malone or promoting Corbin? Our GM and owner do what they want, whenever they want and we're supposed to suddenly believe it was Cuz and/or his agent dictating what our FO has been doing over the last 2 months? I don't really buy that.
I'm sure they've made their feelings known but doubt that's the reason we've gone two months with Corbin and are contacting Karl now.
Petrie or the Maloofs contacted Phil Jackson when Adelman was under contract if that counts. Your point stands however as it is VERY unusual. I doubt if Corbin's contract offers him much protection no matter what anybody said about the length of his contract. We all have learned by now that our FO speaks with forked tongue. I hope we get a mega competent GM.
I didn't read your note carefully as I feel awful so my apologies in advance if I am way off base.
I didn't read your note carefully as I feel awful so my apologies in advance if I am way off base.
I think we're talking about two different hold ups.
The first hold up is because of Vivek and the front office. They thought the Corbin thing would work out okay. That's the "why didn't they make the move right away" hold up.
The second hold up is what's keeping this from completing right now. That may be agreeing on the money, Mullin, and Cousins' agents.
The first hold up is because of Vivek and the front office. They thought the Corbin thing would work out okay. That's the "why didn't they make the move right away" hold up.
The second hold up is what's keeping this from completing right now. That may be agreeing on the money, Mullin, and Cousins' agents.
I just can't imagine Orlando firing their head coach, and then to this point not contacting Karl would push him towards this level of urgency.
From 'let this season go to waste' to 'hire the most prolific coach on the market' based on some terrible team with a less appealing coaching job seems so far fetched to me.
I agree with the Cousins stuff though. All of that smells incredibly fishy, and the details don't exist.
From 'let this season go to waste' to 'hire the most prolific coach on the market' based on some terrible team with a less appealing coaching job seems so far fetched to me.
I agree with the Cousins stuff though. All of that smells incredibly fishy, and the details don't exist.
You know, bottom line for me is I'm not gonna keep worrying about what went on behind the scenes, who might have balked at getting Karl, etc. If George Karl is the new head coach of the Kings I'm going to jump for joy and once again be able to stomach the thought of watching games again. I honestly won't care what it took to get us back on the right track as long as we're no longer in that dark tunnel looking for any kind of light.
And yes, that's my optimism cautiously peeking out from under the covers.
And yes, that's my optimism cautiously peeking out from under the covers.
Look, if he is the holdup I think DMC might be RIGHT.
The fanbase has focused on George Karl as a drink of water in a vast desert of incompetence, but I think its mostly a thoughtless "biggst name available" type of endorsement. And I'm not going to jump up and down in anger myself if he is brought in. If the boobs in the front office can't hire a coach who actually fits Cuz, then next up on my list would be a coach who doesn't fit but who's a potential HOFer.
Nonetheless, in short order the reasons to question Karl are:
1) has never coached a big postup big
2) is very much a "pace" guy himself
3) twitchy prima donna type loves chatting to the media and pimping self
If Cuz for instance would rather be coached by Thibodeau, you know what? He may be absolutely right. The problem is in our situation we don't have many options. After what happened most good coaches are either already working, or wouldn't want to take a chance with such a deluded front office having power over them.
And the underlying problem remains completely 100% with Vivek/PDA/Mullin. the idiots inherited the best center of his generation, and their basketball ideology was totally unprepared to maximize that gift. Instead they fight it at every turn. I rather doubt their shortlist of coaches includes ANYBODY who should be coaching the best center of his generation. Not Karl, not Gentry, not Mullin, none of them.
The fanbase has focused on George Karl as a drink of water in a vast desert of incompetence, but I think its mostly a thoughtless "biggst name available" type of endorsement. And I'm not going to jump up and down in anger myself if he is brought in. If the boobs in the front office can't hire a coach who actually fits Cuz, then next up on my list would be a coach who doesn't fit but who's a potential HOFer.
Nonetheless, in short order the reasons to question Karl are:
1) has never coached a big postup big
2) is very much a "pace" guy himself
3) twitchy prima donna type loves chatting to the media and pimping self
If Cuz for instance would rather be coached by Thibodeau, you know what? He may be absolutely right. The problem is in our situation we don't have many options. After what happened most good coaches are either already working, or wouldn't want to take a chance with such a deluded front office having power over them.
And the underlying problem remains completely 100% with Vivek/PDA/Mullin. the idiots inherited the best center of his generation, and their basketball ideology was totally unprepared to maximize that gift. Instead they fight it at every turn. I rather doubt their shortlist of coaches includes ANYBODY who should be coaching the best center of his generation. Not Karl, not Gentry, not Mullin, none of them.
I absolutely refuse to believe that businessman like Vivek would balk at a couple a million. This franchise takes way over 100 million to run per season, and they're going to quibble over 2 million bucks?!?
No way. I think this front office is filled with morons who don't understand basketball, but there's no way they don't see the importance now of spending money to hire a strong, respected coach that has a chance of turning this shipwreck around.
The stark contrast between Karl and lesser coaches is so massive.
The one lesson this FO has to have learned from this season is that the coach IS important - in fact, the coach (and the players playing hard for/with him) is the difference between the Kings being a playoff team and being the worst team in the league.
Does it make ANY sense to anyone else to assemble a team who's players cost over $70 million, and then be hyper-concerned with the $2 million more it takes to make them play well (as opposed to playing horribly for some other, cheaper coach)?
No way. I think this front office is filled with morons who don't understand basketball, but there's no way they don't see the importance now of spending money to hire a strong, respected coach that has a chance of turning this shipwreck around.
The stark contrast between Karl and lesser coaches is so massive.
The one lesson this FO has to have learned from this season is that the coach IS important - in fact, the coach (and the players playing hard for/with him) is the difference between the Kings being a playoff team and being the worst team in the league.
Does it make ANY sense to anyone else to assemble a team who's players cost over $70 million, and then be hyper-concerned with the $2 million more it takes to make them play well (as opposed to playing horribly for some other, cheaper coach)?
I'd rather have Thibbs in a heartbeat over Karl. BUT Thibbs is still under contract by the Bulls. It could be a lose-lose scenario if we lose out on Karl to Orlando and the Bulls decide to stick with Thibbs at the end of the year.
We're in a sticky situation.
I would much rather have Thibbs because I think he might be able to utilize Cuz a little better. Plus, he'd probably make our team top 20 in defense.
We're in a sticky situation.
I would much rather have Thibbs because I think he might be able to utilize Cuz a little better. Plus, he'd probably make our team top 20 in defense.
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