Tetsujin
The Game Thread Dude
Paying Bogdan Bogdanovic 25 mil a year is how bad teams stay bad
Bucks Trade In Jeopardy: Bogi Didn’t Agree Go to the Bucks
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gunks
Hall of Famer
I agree and that’s what I’m hoping. Can’t blame the man for wanting to get the most money he can.
It’ll suck if he ends up walking, but that’s better than us overpaying. McNair already has Buddy and Barnes making way too much for what they do on the court. The last thing we need is another “Vlade contract”.
steelevt
All-Star
Time to start researching Atlanta’s future picks and trade pieces on the trade machine
Man how crappy does it feel to be blindsided by a sign and trade you didn’t agree on. Yeah he’s gonna want to help a front office that did that to him
Could have been a situation where he was fully involved in the negotiations in what was supposed to be a "behind closed doors" deal that got leaked out. Except only the initial aspect of it got leaked so it made all of us think it was a done deal when in reality it was just a normal negotiation where the two parties couldn't come to term and in a normal world we never even would have known about it.
Or it could be Kangz. I'll go with Kangz.
iowamcnabb
Hall of Famer
I wonder if they have until the end of the day friday to make that call or if that ends 12am
captain bill
All-Star
Jason Anderson saying no deal when it first broke points that way. Kings putting together a framework before going to Bogi to work on the contract is reasonable. JA denying it makes it sound likes the Bucks leaked it. In which case Bogi would be pissed at the Bucks for not waiting to see what kind of $$ he was looking for, which would also explain why he’s now saying Bucks off the table
(assuming no smokescreen of course)
Suicide King
Starter
We dont know much about Mcnair, but so far seems to have been tight lipped. Bucks have been fined for tampering in the past.
My money is on the deer noises tipping things the wrong way.
Why would they sign-and-trade if they could just sign him outright?
Atl must want another expensive piece (if true).
Tetsujin
The Game Thread Dude
Not for nothing but Atlanta seems to have no idea how it wants to build its team
steelevt
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KingsFanSince85
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Oh, I agree. I was making the comparison more in that they are both players that believe they are more skilled than they are. Buddy always tries to do too much handling the ball, even though he’s a turnover waiting to happen whereas Bogi has always just been a good all-around complimentary player that’s not great at anything.
Buddy is at least an elite shooter. At times. So he can understandably be overly confident about that aspect of his game.
Reverend
Bench
Yeah gee wonder where he got that attitude from lol
SacTownKid
Hall of Famer
If they give him that much they're in some trouble but I read Joe Harris is getting like 15 million plus so who knows. I'm not sure about his fit in Atlanta but it's an interesting combo with him and Trae. Defensively it's sketchy since Bogdan is better defending up a position, not down.
SacTownKid
Hall of Famer
It's called being a modern pro athlete. It's just the way it is. If you aren't that way you are an exception to the norm.
Section 101
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Because they can't sign him outright. The Kings can match their offer. They would have to go well beyond the number they think the Kings will match.
Tetsujin
The Game Thread Dude
Right. And Bogi is probably better suited to be in a more structured offense while the Hawks are pretty much just run and gun to the point of being chaotic.
If the Kings match at $25M, well, we deserve everything we get.
Bogi WAS a "movable piece" when he was making $8.5M last season. If he's spurning the Buck's deal where he likely would have started at $18M or so (based on the salaries involved and caproom) then he must think he can get significantly more.
Bogi at $20-$25M per season is no longer a trade asset. It's an albatross.
Tetsujin
The Game Thread Dude
This. Bogi at 20-25 isn’t just an albatross, it has potential to be an all time bad contract.
this is so dumb. I don't fully understand how what Milwaukee did (basically working with the team that has the player under contract) constitutes tampering but if Atlanta saying "no, no, don't agree to this, we'll offer you a ton more on Friday when it's legal" wouldn't be?
The Bucks may have leaked things but this is still peak Kangz.
Against my better judgement I tuned back in this off-season to give this new (and on paper, promising) new FO a chance. And I will. But without some semblance of a plan and solid moves before next season I think I'll have to hit snooze on my Kings fandom for at least a few seasons.
Against my better judgement I tuned back in this off-season to give this new (and on paper, promising) new FO a chance. And I will. But without some semblance of a plan and solid moves before next season I think I'll have to hit snooze on my Kings fandom for at least a few seasons.
Section 101
All-Star
Buddy was 4 year/$94 mil. From Bogi's perspective he should get equal money. If they match Bogi in this range they need to have a deal for Buddy going out.
Who would you rather have at the same salary?
Tetsujin
The Game Thread Dude
Buddy. Buddy is an elite shooter. Bogi is good at lots of things but ultimately a good role player
Section 101
All-Star
now who would the Kings player rather have?
Tetsujin
The Game Thread Dude
Both, if we’re being honest.
Here's maybe a more telling question. If they both had the same contract, who has more trade value around the league?
I have to think that goes to Buddy. And not just because I hope the Kings trade them both this off-season.
We were always kind of along for the ride here, it was either work out deals with Milwaukee or Atlanta or match whatever over market offer Atlanta gives. But if Bogi somehow has it stuck in his head that he is worth more... yeesh. Atlanta could also be just angling to get a Buddy deal done faster? Surely they'd prefer Buddy???
Dime Dropper
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Both with the same contract, I think Bogi is more valued around the league. Yes Buddy is a better shooter, but Bogi is better in all other areas and is also a + shooter. He's more of a winner, and Buddy is seen as having a bad attitude now due to his antics.
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