Brockman to the Bucks?

[NME]

No, Bucks couldn't have made the offer to him outright, but the fact that this deal exists suggests a market value. It's possible that the Bucks are alone in their valuation of Brockman, but it's also possible that other teams might have been willing to make a similar offer without even having to burn a 2nd rounder for the privilege.

I don't see where we had a lot of leverage. All we did was help facilitate him going where he wanted to go, and the limited role he'll likely have there is all the more reason why the Bucks wouldn't want or need to give up much.

 

[Capt. Factorial]

No, Bucks couldn't have made the offer to him outright, but the fact that this deal exists suggests a market value. It's possible that the Bucks are alone in their valuation of Brockman, but it's also possible that other teams might have been willing to make a similar offer without even having to burn a 2nd rounder for the privilege.

I don't see where we had a lot of leverage. All we did was help facilitate him going where he wanted to go, and the limited role he'll likely have there is all the more reason why the Bucks wouldn't want or need to give up much.

I don't think the offer itself is indicative of market value. If Brockman had had any existing offer sheet that was attractive (not even necessarily equivalent to the Bucks' contract) from any team where he might have gotten playing time, I think he'd have taken it over going to the Bucks and being the #6 big man. That suggests to me that no good offer sheets existed, and the Bucks may have pulled the classic "bidding against themselves" trick. Just a guess.

Just because Jon's role will be limited in Milwaukee doesn't mean we didn't have leverage. My suspicion is that they're the ones who came to us, not the other way around. And they were asking for us to give them an asset that we could just as well hold on to. That translates to leverage to me, unless we may be known as "too nice". "Look at Petrie, he's always looking out for the best interests of his players, he won't play hardball" kind of stuff. I think we could have played hardball and ended up with Hobson. Oh well. I'm not going to lose sleep over it.

 

[JerN820]

We are loaded in the frontcourt, but Brockman's toughness will still be missed!

 

[Showtime]

I hate the comments that the team is "loaded" in the frontcourt. Well, no they aren't. This season, maybe. BUT, after this season, both Sammy D and Landry can leave. JT hasn't proven to me that he's a starting PF in this league. He's foul prone, clumsy, soft around the rim, and only came into a comfort zone once he came off the bench. Whiteside is a serious project, and the team has even come out and said they hope he can be more of a PF. We haven't seen how Cousins handles the NBA schedule and competition yet, and he very well may take some time to become the full time starter. So really, the Kings are full of BENCH PF's, and hopefully a legit C. A frontline at this point that is full of unproven potential and bench-level mediocre bigs, plus one legit rebounder/shotblocker who will be gone soon (maybe even by the deadline), and who is a blockhead offensively.

 

[Bricklayer]

I hate the comments that the team is "loaded" in the frontcourt. Well, no they aren't. This season, maybe. BUT, after this season, both Sammy D and Landry can leave. JT hasn't proven to me that he's a starting PF in this league. He's foul prone, clumsy, soft around the rim, and only came into a comfort zone once he came off the bench. Whiteside is a serious project, and the team has even come out and said they hope he can be more of a PF. We haven't seen how Cousins handles the NBA schedule and competition yet, and he very well may take some time to become the full time starter. So really, the Kings are full of BENCH PF's, and hopefully a legit C. A frontline at this point that is full of unproven potential and bench-level mediocre bigs, plus one legit rebounder/shotblocker who will be gone soon (maybe even by the deadline), and who is a blockhead offensively.

Alternately you could look at the reality of the situation which is that we have 4 6'11"/7'0" big men, and 4 guys who could start for some significant number of teams around the league at their positions, and would certainly be high in the rotation of all the others. And that's before we get to a long stick of potential in Whiteside.

Brockman was a fan favorite but there is a come on factor after a while. He's a deep bench guy. A guy who fills in when needed, not a mainstay. He's clearly far behind our top 4 bigs valuewise, and would have logically lost out to Whiteside as well for the garbage minutes because of Whiteside's superior upside.

And AFTER this season we are roughly as loaded as we want to be. Sammy and Landry are both within our power to resign if we want them, and if not we have a huge chunk of caproom to get somebody else of significance to come play up front.

 

[Entity]

Alternately you could look at the reality of the situation which is that we have 4 6'11"/7'0" big men, and 4 guys who could start for some significant number of teams around the league at their positions, and would certainly be high in the rotation of all the others. And that's before we get to a long stick of potential in Whiteside.

Brockman was a fan favorite but there is a come on factor after a while. He's a deep bench guy. A guy who fills in when needed, not a mainstay. He's clearly far behind our top 4 bigs valuewise, and would have logically lost out to Whiteside as well for the garbage minutes because of Whiteside's superior upside.

And AFTER this season we are roughly as loaded as we want to be. Sammy and Landry are both within our power to resign if we want them, and if not we have a huge chunk of caproom to get somebody else of significance to come play up front.

Can you say Al Horford

 

[SacKings7]

Can you say Al Horford

That's been debated on here a number of times. I'm definitely on board with that, but I'm pretty sure he's restricted anyways isn't he? And with Bibby coming off the books at season's end I'm sure they'll put that money towards Horford and probably let Marvin Williams go. Even if they keep Bibby, they'll save some money there because there's no way he gets the money that he's making now

 

[Circa_1985_Fan]

That's been debated on here a number of times. I'm definitely on board with that, but I'm pretty sure he's restricted anyways isn't he? And with Bibby coming off the books at season's end I'm sure they'll put that money towards Horford and probably let Marvin Williams go. Even if they keep Bibby, they'll save some money there because there's no way he gets the money that he's making now

Bibby is on the books in ATL for another 2 years, and Horford gets a qualifying offer at the end of 1...but they do lose Jamal Crawford's contract, and will pick up a bunch of cash with that, so they can re-sign him outright with that money if they wanted, oh and Williams isnt a free agent until 2013.

 

[SacKings7]

Bibby is on the books in ATL for another 2 years, and Horford gets a qualifying offer at the end of 1...but they do lose Jamal Crawford's contract, and will pick up a bunch of cash with that, so they can re-sign him outright with that money if they wanted, oh and Williams isnt a free agent until 2013.

Oh, really? I thought Bibby was up next year. I knew Williams wasn't a free agent for a while, but he's been mentioned in trade rumors a lot. And he seems to be the most likely Hawk to go if they do pull something off.