Breaking news...Adelman era over (merged)

[love_them_kings]

Petrie seems upset. I liked him response to the "team not listening" question...

"...only 2 players are still around from the "old" days, so I don't think that's a big enough percentage... I don't believe the whole "they're not listening crap."

 

[BigWaxer]

As far as the time frame this is the right time to do it... before the draft.

I posted last week that the Maloofs in an on-court interview didn't give an endorsement for RA, I was expecting this.

Like I keep saying it all depends on the replacement. If its Nellie, time to tie the rope the tree

 

[atxrocker]

wow i cant believe the turn of events. the assistants gone too? i hope to god we dont get nellie. please, not nellie, please.

 

[JJ22L]

Petrie is full of it...they know EXACTLY who the next coach is..lol i love his ambiguity...prolly just legal work needs to be done before its announced

 

[VF21]

Rick Adelman coached with class and style. He was obviously very hurt over the deal about PHil Jackson but he never let it affect how he coached the Kings. His actions in the playoffs made it clear that, regardless of how he may have felt about the Maloofs, he loved the Kings players.

He and his staff will be missed ... but he can leave with his head held high.

 

[macadocious]

Post press conference comments

Here my take on the PC. Sounds like the Maloofs have had this in there mind for the past 2 seasons and that Rick and them could not get past that, so they mutually decided to go there own ways.

It also looks like Petrie was the middleman and has not really searched for a new coach, because he had a small idea they could make it work. He will begin looking for a coach at the end of the week.

(personal note: I hope its not Nelly)

 

[BigWaxer]

Rick Adelman coached with class and style. He was obviously very hurt over the deal about PHil Jackson but he never let it affect how he coached the Kings. His actions in the playoffs made it clear that, regardless of how he may have felt about the Maloofs, he loved the Kings players.

He and his staff will be missed ... but he can leave with his head held high.

Couldn't have said it better...

 

[Starting Five]

Petrie is full of it...they know EXACTLY who the next coach is..lol i love his ambiguity...prolly just legal work needs to be done before its announced

I think your right..they know who the new staff is.

 

[NewMonkey]

Petrie seems upset. I liked him response to the "team not listening" question...

"...only 2 players are still around from the "old" days, so I don't think that's a big enough percentage... I don't believe the whole "they're not listening crap."

For the record, that's not what I heard. I heard Petrie mention "they're not listening CAMP," as in the group of people who believed the team wasn't listening to Adelman. I wouldn't swear on it in court, but that's what I heard.

 

[Circa_1985_Fan]

I think your right..they know who the new staff is.

yup, thats what I was saying...so I wonder who Mr. Nelson has in mind for his assistants?

 

[VF21]

Petrie is full of it...they know EXACTLY who the next coach is..lol i love his ambiguity...prolly just legal work needs to be done before its announced

They aren't going to combine the firing of a coach and his entire staff with the announcement of their replacements.

That's just not good business.

They want the house vacant before they re-rent it, so to speak.

 

[macadocious]

he said crap not camp

 

[Purple Reign]

Sounds like Petrie, the Maloofs and Adelman were never in the same room together.

Bingo!! I believe that the Maloofs and Adelman have not been on the same page for a while now.

 

[love_them_kings]

he said crap not camp

that's what I heard too.

 

[uolj]

I heard "crowd".

 

[KevinMartinsGirl23]

Well this is getting interesting... I hope the replacement is good. I am not going to worry too much about this until I see how this whole thing pans out.

I will miss RA and staff.

Too bad Carril is gone- he souneded pretty enthused about working with the young kids- Martin & Garcia.

 

[KingCookie]

I can't help but wonder what 1-2 more wins in the playoffs would've done to this situation...surely they couldn't fire the coach that beat the Champs? Or even took them to a hotly-contested Game 7? Instead a laugher of a Game 6 made this so easy for both parties.

 

[target]

why is everyone surprised the staff is leaving as well? doesn't the head coach choose his staff? thats why john wetzel came over with adelman before he retired right? Im sure whoever the new head coach is will bring his own staff or hire people that will work under his philosphies.

I'm excited and worried at the same time over this development. Adelman's teams for some reason always seem to fold when the chips are on the table because he's not the best strategist, but at the same time, he seems to be a master at handling egos and personalities, which we have (artest and bonzi if he returns). I'm not sure if the kings can handle a controlling coach without problems. Afterall, that was part of the reason artest wanted to leave indy.

Anyways, I had a feeling this was going to happen, but i didnt think it would be so soon. Better to do it sooner than later, i guess.

 

[KevinMartinsGirl23]

They aren't going to combine the firing of a coach and his entire staff with the announcement of their replacements.

That's just not good business.

They want the house vacant before they re-rent it, so to speak.

Agree... I wonder what a time table is for the releasing of the new coach- if there is one already lined up? The suspense is killing me!

 

[Bibby_10]

Hey, maybe Henry Bibby will be the next Kings coach. I can see it now....

Mike: Dad, how am I playing?
Henry: Son, your grandmother can defend better than you.

Hmm, maybe not.

 

[mr. moustache]

Thanks Rick

Hmm... Wonder if I'll be a Kings fan. I kept it up after Vlade, Christie, and Webber left. I guess I'll find out in time.

 

[PFFFT!!]

Agree... I wonder what a time table is for the releasing of the new coach- if there is one already lined up? The suspense is killing me!

A coach needs to be hired before getting free agents or trading players. Thats because the types of players we plan to get should be atuned to the coach's phylosophy. We are definitely going to get a coach prior to July 1st.

 

[uolj]

It sounded to me like Adelman was gone no matter what happened short of a championship. I think the Maloofs didn't want him anymore, and he would only come back if they really showed that they wanted him back. Hence, neither party wanted him to be back and we have a "mutual decision".

When asked, "yes or no" if he had any people in mind for the coaching vacancy, Petrie said "no" pretty emphatically. His answers indicated that he hasn't decided what he wants to do at all yet, and that Adelman leaving happened without an idea of who they would replace him with. That doesn't mean the Maloofs don't have thoughts, though.

The assistant coaches are gone temporarily, but they might be back depending on who they hire as the head coach. It wasn't a firing, it was just that they wanted the new coach to have control over who he brought in to assist.

 

[VF21]

It sounded to me like Adelman was gone no matter what happened short of a championship. I think the Maloofs didn't want him anymore, and he would only come back if they really showed that they wanted him back. Hence, neither party wanted him to be back and we have a "mutual decision".

When asked, "yes or no" if he had any people in mind for the coaching vacancy, Petrie said "no" pretty emphatically. His answers indicated that he hasn't decided what he wants to do at all yet, and that Adelman leaving happened without an idea of who they would replace him with. That doesn't mean the Maloofs don't have thoughts, though.

The assistant coaches are gone temporarily, but they might be back depending on who they hire as the head coach. It wasn't a firing, it was just that they wanted the new coach to have control over who he brought in to assist.

Petrie was there to talk about the end of Adelman's era. He wasn't there to talk about replacements. I'm pretty sure Petrie DOES have several people in mind, and I'm pretty sure he's known this was coming for quite a while.

 

[target]

well i have no idea who the kings can get to replace adelman. if they pick up nelson, i dont know how that helps the kings at all. same with porter, who is an adelman understudy. im not exactly dying to see a college coach come to town either. this should be interesting...

 

[JJ22L]

Petrie was there to talk about the end of Adelman's era. He wasn't there to talk about replacements. I'm pretty sure Petrie DOES have several people in mind, and I'm pretty sure he's known this was coming for quite a while.

Agreed

 

[Bballkingsrock]

I just hope Ron is ok with this and Bonzi will still come back.

But I like Cleavelands former coach. Paul Silas anyone?

 

[shaka zulu]

As I've stated a number of times this season, I think this is the right call. Not that there isn't potential for it to backfire, but I believe a change needed to be made.

Adleman's strength is his ability to relate to players, which was a much needed skill with the cast of characters they have had over the years. In fact it's still needed. The problem is that what the Kings need more than that is not what Adelman brings to the table.

1. The Kings offense existed becuase they had the players to run the Princeton offense. There isn't a lot of in-game coaching with that offense so Rick's X's and O's deficiencies weren't exposed. This team is not built for that kind of game and it shows. It's not simply an issue of not having played together as there is no real offensive scheme on the court. And Rick has never been great at subsitution patterns or taking advantage of mismatches. I don't know how many times in the past 8 years that I've screamed at the tv when Adelman adjusts based on what other coaches do. The other team goes small and Adelman won't pound the ball outside but instead goes small as well. The other team is killing you on a pick and roll and he leaves Vlade in to stumble around the court. Very frustrating.

2. This is a defensive minded team and they would benefit from a defensive minded coach. People can say all they want about the Kings teams in the past that put up better defensive team stats, but I think its fairly common knowledge that this has never been a defensive team and Rick has never been a defensive coach. It's not a criticism as most coaches in the league sway in one direction or the other. But when you have a team that isn't really suited to a coaches style on either end of the court, there's going to be problems.

3. Finally, they need a coach with a killer mentality. I believe Adelman is a nice guy and while that helps in the locker room it can hurt on the court. If you don't believe that, look at how frequently the Kings lose close games, don't show up for big games, let go of large leads, and generally operate as though they are trying to avoid losing rather than going for the jugular. They've got the players (mostly), I think it's worth trying to find the coach.

The mismatch issue you are probably right in some cases, but in others instances I don't agree. The kings allot of times couldn't exploit the mismatches because of the physical state of the Team, when Webber was healthy rick did a great job of exploiting shaq with webber playing center with mike bibby and webber attacking shaq in the pick n roll. This philosophy has been adopted by every Team around the league who wish to exploit shaq, This philosphy is used by the suns in new jersey and in many other places around the league.


Rick adelman helped revolutionize the game and how it is played offensively Today.

Nellie bit rick adelman's up tempo free flowing style with how he had nash playing in Dallas, Nellie did play this way in golden state, But the come down shoot the Three with 20 seconds on the shot clock is what rick allowed Jason williams to do in the early kings years. This style Rick's ex Roomate and clone Mike datoni does with the suns, New jesrey's coach is a Rick aldeman Fanatic, Eddie jordan borrowed the princeton Rick adlema style of play, Terry porter etc. The 3 point bombs 20 seconds in the clock are products of The adleman system.



The West coast offense in Basketball Today Rick adleman is partly responsible for.


And on Defense Rick is the only coach who i saw make one of the most clever adjustments in stopping the Pick n Roll mis match that Nash and dirk Ran on Teams in dallas and What nash uses to Destroy Teams right now. Instead of allowing the Defensive switch mismatch with Dirk being Guarded by mike bibby, Adleman would rotate Webber from the weak side or whoever it was to pick up dirk Totally taking the quick thinking offensive mis match Run by dallas or The Suns totally out of focus it Frustrated these clowns. During the 2002-2003 Season he kicked Nellie's Butt so Bad, Nellie was going around saying after the game how the kings are the Best Team in the NBA. Rick is a Basketball Genius in his own unique way.


Now # 3 the kings are still not a Defensive minded Team, you need more than just one player to play good team Defense and like Ron said after Game 5, He said I can't guard Two people at the same time.

 

[Circa_1985_Fan]

Petrie was there to talk about the end of Adelman's era. He wasn't there to talk about replacements. I'm pretty sure Petrie DOES have several people in mind, and I'm pretty sure he's known this was coming for quite a while.

as is the case with most major moves with a successful sports franchise.

 

[uolj]

Petrie was there to talk about the end of Adelman's era. He wasn't there to talk about replacements. I'm pretty sure Petrie DOES have several people in mind, and I'm pretty sure he's known this was coming for quite a while.

That's fine. Usually I take Petrie to be the time that colors the truth rather than someone who flat out lies, but that's just my impression.