Boozer & Harpring are being shopped

[Chris Cobb]

i have watched boozer play since his days at duke, and i have liked him at that. that being said i would not like to see a trade bringing boozer to the kings. he adds 5 points, 2 boards, and 0.25 blocks a game to KT's totals, with 5 more minutes a game. Now this is definitely an improvement and i do not dispute that at all. but IMHO i do not believe that this small upgrade is worth the extra 5 mil a year that could help to bring in a quality backup such as Harpring. i would love it if GP could bring in Harpring though it will be tough bcuz he seems like a player who could add a lot to a lot of teams.

 

[Rowdyone]

I think that what Boozer would offer, besides the obvious stats, is an honest inside threat that we don't have. This threat alone would change how teams would have to play us. Have you ever noticed how Bibby gets picked up way out high and they try to force us back and to the side lines? They can do that because if Bibby drived to the hoop he'd have to shoot because there's no one else there...our guys are at the FT line or beyond. With Boozer on the block, willing to post his man Bibby immediately has another option and the Defense has to collapse back to clog the middle freeing up Peja and Bonzi for jumpers...inside out offense. And this is just one set. There's many variations off this. So Boozer or someone like him would be extremely valuable to our offense without having to have the ball in his hands a lot.

 

[Ryle]

Boozer and Harpring for KT and Peja works under the CBA. I would do this deal in a heartbeat and this would really help our rebounding numbers and would automatically erase the "soft" label for the Kings.

 

[Bricklayer]

I think that what Boozer would offer, besides the obvious stats, is an honest inside threat that we don't have. This threat alone would change how teams would have to play us. Have you ever noticed how Bibby gets picked up way out high and they try to force us back and to the side lines? They can do that because if Bibby drived to the hoop he'd have to shoot because there's no one else there...our guys are at the FT line or beyond. With Boozer on the block, willing to post his man Bibby immediately has another option and the Defense has to collapse back to clog the middle freeing up Peja and Bonzi for jumpers...inside out offense. And this is just one set. There's many variations off this. So Boozer or someone like him would be extremely valuable to our offense without having to have the ball in his hands a lot.

No, there's no doubt that is the "+" with Boozer for us -- the post game. With the loss of Vlade and Webb, we were completely punchless on the inside. But Bonzi helps as a strong postup guard, and if we got Boozer, he would help too to restore some balance.

Where he's unlikely to help much though is on the other end of the court where our bigger problems lie. And that's really not so much about Boozer as it is about "the core". They put tremendous pressure on you when picking up other players because of their limitations.

Still, barring Geoff actually going to work and landing a Brand or KG or someone of that ilk, it will be very tough to get both characteristics in one guy. One of the reasons why I would like to see at least two new faces on the frontline.

 

[Rowdyone]

No, there's no doubt that is the "+" with Boozer for us -- the post game. With the loss of Vlade and Webb, we were completely punchless on the inside. But Bonzi helps as a strong postup guard, and if we got Boozer, he would help too to restore some balance.

Where he's unlikely to help much though is on the other end of the court where our bigger problems lie. And that's really not so much about Boozer as it is about "the core". They put tremendous pressure on you when picking up other players because of their limitations.

Still, barring Geoff actually going to work and landing a Brand or KG or someone of that ilk, it will be very tough to get both characteristics in one guy. One of the reasons why I would like to see at least two new faces on the frontline.

Agreed.

 

[Packt]

realistically(both salary & contracts-wise) is there any relaity at all that we can get Utah to deal us both Boozer & Harpring for anyone other than our "core" players?

Yes. A deal of KT, Williamson, and Martin matches up.

I like Harpring, but not so much Boozer. He doesn't bring what we need most, and that is presence on the defensive end. It's scary having so much money locked into a player that doesn't address our need for interior defense. You can do a lot worse than Boozer, but to me this deal isn't too hot considering our needs, and the contract.

Keep in mind, if something like this were to go down, Peja, Harpring, and Bonzi would all be FA's next summer. It would be hard to keep all three, especially if they played to potential, but even harder with Boozer on the books.

Sacramento Trade Breakdown
Outgoing

Kevin Martin
6-7 SG from Western Carolina
2.9 ppg, 1.3 rpg, 0.5 apg in 10.1 minutes

Corliss Williamson
6-7 SF from Arkansas
10.8 ppg, 3.7 rpg, 0.9 apg in 22.0 minutes

Kenny Thomas
6-7 PF from New Mexico
11.3 ppg, 6.5 rpg, 1.6 apg in 28.6 minutes
Incoming

Matt Harpring
6-7 SF from Georgia Tech
14.0 ppg, 6.2 rpg, 1.8 apg in 33.1 minutes

Carlos Boozer
6-9 PF from Duke
17.8 ppg, 9.0 rpg, 2.8 apg in 34.8 minutes
Change in team outlook: +6.8 ppg, +3.7 rpg, and +1.6 apg.

Utah Trade Breakdown
Outgoing

Matt Harpring
6-7 SF from Georgia Tech
14.0 ppg, 6.2 rpg, 1.8 apg in 33.1 minutes

Carlos Boozer
6-9 PF from Duke
17.8 ppg, 9.0 rpg, 2.8 apg in 34.8 minutes
Incoming

Kevin Martin
6-7 SG from Western Carolina
2.9 ppg, 1.3 rpg, 0.5 apg in 10.1 minutes

Corliss Williamson
6-7 SF from Arkansas
10.8 ppg, 3.7 rpg, 0.9 apg in 22.0 minutes

Kenny Thomas
6-7 PF from New Mexico
11.3 ppg, 6.5 rpg, 1.6 apg in 28.6 minutes
Change in team outlook: -6.8 ppg, -3.7 rpg, and -1.6 apg.

 

[iheartBrad]

O'Connor dismissed the trade rumors I thought

 

[Kings113]

He did

 

[Kings113]

I would think that a deal involving expiring contracts would be much more tempting for Utah than taking back guys like Mo, Darius or even KT. For that matter, I wouldn't be surprised at all to see Dallas offer KVH for both those guys. The city of Salt Lake loves KVH and his deal expires next year and Boozer and Harpring's salaries work with his.

So Boozer would be on the bench for Dallas? That would be such a waste and risky, kinda ridiculous too. KVH for Boozer/Harpring seems so strange.

 

[quick dog]

Whihc is exactly what we need since currently we employ a bunch of natural cheerleaders.

But Harpring was scrappy long before he hit Utah.

Funny and very true.

 

[Diabeticwonder]

So Boozer would be on the bench for Dallas? That would be such a waste and risky, kinda ridiculous too. KVH for Boozer/Harpring seems so strange.

The report indicated that Dallas had shown some interest in Boozer and that deal makes sense for both teams. Dallas could go BIG with Boozer, Dirk and Dampier on the front line while KVH could play PF for Utah for one year before his contract comes off the books.

 

[Kings113]

That's just laughable.

I don't and won't see the point because of how ridiculous it'd be.

 

[Gary]

What if we were involved some way in a 3 team deal that send Boozer to us, and say Harpring somewhere else, while Utah gets a couple players from us, and another couple players from the other team. It is looking like Utah is in a "rebuilding" phase, so a few expiring contracts might just do it. Do we have any of those left?

 

[captain bill]

" Sacramento Trade Breakdown
Outgoing

Kevin Martin
6-7 SG from Western Carolina
2.9 ppg, 1.3 rpg, 0.5 apg in 10.1 minutes

Corliss Williamson
6-7 SF from Arkansas
10.8 ppg, 3.7 rpg, 0.9 apg in 22.0 minutes

Kenny Thomas
6-7 PF from New Mexico
11.3 ppg, 6.5 rpg, 1.6 apg in 28.6 minutes
Incoming

Matt Harpring
6-7 SF from Georgia Tech
14.0 ppg, 6.2 rpg, 1.8 apg in 33.1 minutes

Carlos Boozer
6-9 PF from Duke
17.8 ppg, 9.0 rpg, 2.8 apg in 34.8 minutes
Change in team outlook: +6.8 ppg, +3.7 rpg, and +1.6 apg.

Utah Trade Breakdown
Outgoing

Matt Harpring
6-7 SF from Georgia Tech
14.0 ppg, 6.2 rpg, 1.8 apg in 33.1 minutes

Carlos Boozer
6-9 PF from Duke
17.8 ppg, 9.0 rpg, 2.8 apg in 34.8 minutes
Incoming

Kevin Martin
6-7 SG from Western Carolina
2.9 ppg, 1.3 rpg, 0.5 apg in 10.1 minutes

Corliss Williamson
6-7 SF from Arkansas
10.8 ppg, 3.7 rpg, 0.9 apg in 22.0 minutes

Kenny Thomas
6-7 PF from New Mexico
11.3 ppg, 6.5 rpg, 1.6 apg in 28.6 minutes
Change in team outlook: -6.8 ppg, -3.7 rpg, and -1.6 apg."


lol....thats great. Utah feels like trading 2 real legit players for our table scraps. Not in a million years. Someone else posted this in the trade thread:

"Peja to NY
Thomas to Utah

Boozer to Sac
Harpring to Sac

Crawford to Utah"

makes a lot more sense for ALL the teams involved. yeah, we don't get 2 good players for free, but the easter bunny doesn't exist, either.

 

[Ryle]

but the easter bunny doesn't exist, either.

Thanks Bill, my 5 year old just ran out of the room screaming......

 

[BobbyJ_for3!]

The report indicated that Dallas had shown some interest in Boozer and that deal makes sense for both teams. Dallas could go BIG with Boozer, Dirk and Dampier on the front line while KVH could play PF for Utah for one year before his contract comes off the books.

yeah um..... itd be funny to see the players get bigger from C to SF.... scary and possibyl really good, it also has a huge chance to crumble as fast as the twin towers did. altho we all knwo which crumbling will be by far more sad.

 

[Packt]

lol....thats great. Utah feels like trading 2 real legit players for our table scraps. Not in a million years. Someone else posted this in the trade thread:

"Peja to NY
Thomas to Utah

Boozer to Sac
Harpring to Sac

Crawford to Utah"

makes a lot more sense for ALL the teams involved. yeah, we don't get 2 good players for free, but the easter bunny doesn't exist, either.

Someone asked whether such a deal was doable from a money standpoint without tampering with the core-- I replied. I don't really want Boozer. IMO, that four spot needs to be manned by someone with more defense than Boozer can provide, especially if they're making Boozer kind of money.