Tetsujin
The Game Thread Dude
So their line-up would be:
Stern
Tait
Maloofs
Micky Mouse
Clay Bennett
Samueli
Bavetta
Delany
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So their line-up would be:
Stern
Tait
Maloofs
Micky Mouse
Clay Bennett
Samueli
Bavetta
Delany
Showtime
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I think he's playing on his own team. A known political financier who wants to become a power player in sacramento? Stop acting as if he's Superman trying to save the common man. He obviously has his own agenda.Nah... Kobe/Horry (Ron Burkle) is playing on our team this time!
Ever consider the possibility that he wants to move the team himself? Remember, Clay Bennett told Seattle he wanted to give it a shot in Seattle when he bought the team, if they could work out an arena deal. Internal emails surfaced later that showed he was focused on moving from the outset, despite his initial comments.
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Big Cuz 15
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that dirt bag!
mr. moustache
Bench
We get it Gavin. Is this the same pitch you made yesterday?
ReinadelosReys
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Tonybizjak
Talking to Stern after press conf, I get sense @KJ_MayorJohnson's presentation is part of reason NBA is extending Maloof relo app deadline.
Talking to Stern after press conf, I get sense @KJ_MayorJohnson's presentation is part of reason NBA is extending Maloof relo app deadline.
Tetsujin
The Game Thread Dude
No. There was a nifty powerpoint to go along with it.
Showtime
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Donald Sterling.
ReinadelosReys
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It's Stern's league, he can do whatever he wants. He says it was a decision by he the committee and the Maloofs. They want to look at both anahiem and Sacramento again.
fansinceday1
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The reason mhy the maloofs cannot wait another year is because they are broke! The NBA is now a billionaires club and the maloofs cannot hang anymore. Its Anaheim or bust. Not Louisville. Not Kansas City. Not Sacramento. They NEED to move to Anaheim and their huge population and large TV deals or its lights out for the Maloofs.
Thats why they werent willing to give KJ and the ICON. Group another year to pu this deal together.
Thats why they werent willing to give KJ and the ICON. Group another year to pu this deal together.
I don't care what his motivations are if he wants to keep the team in Sac. Nobody does things at this level without strings attached. Obviously a new arena deal is part of whatever his plans are so he doesn't help get a new arena here and bail, imho. Clay Bennett told Seattle one thing but EVERYBODY knew he was moving the team except the people he gave his word to.
Peter_Gibbons
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Thats exactly what I was thinking yesterday as soon as they said how much political connection he has. For him to put his name out there to buy the Kings or help build the arena, the Sac politicians will have to scratch his back as well. Some sort of under the table deal to help his businesses with low taxes and other ways to make more money?
If they are broke they shouldn't have majority control of the team. Period. This is a franchise operation not a family business. If the fate of an NBA team is truly at stake based on the business failings in Vegas that is a problem that requires the NBA to step in. While they probably can't force the Maloofs to sell outright they certainly can handcuff them in a way that forces the inevitable.
Tetsujin
The Game Thread Dude
Of course, he may just be diverifying his investments. Buy low (crappy arena, low prestige), sell high.
Showtime
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What I'm saying is, compared to guys like Shinn and Sterling, the Maloofs are saints.
- commercial that rubbed people the wrong way.
- ticket prices that was the result of a marketing group that was replaced and addressed.
- (my personal biggest gripe) meddling in the affairs of the team directly, aka firing Rick, and a string of poor coaching decisions (Mussleman's PowerPoint skills FTL).
- looking to move the team after a string of failed ventures to build a new arena, while never once blaming the fabase but rather publicly battling city leadership.
So, again, I don't get why people are vilifying them. Even when they have made mistakes, such as the ticket issue and meddling, they pretty much admitted those mistakes and taken steps to correct them. The only thing against them now is the move, which has always been a result of the conflict between them and the city, not the fanbase.
bozzwell
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Oh, please. It goes without saying that he is doing it for himself. My gratitude to him would/could extend only to him keeping the team in Sacramento. My thumbs up for Burkle is more of an anti-Maloof sentiment then any care/admiration/support I have for him.
No I don't think he would move Kings himself if he bought the team AND built an arena in Sacramento.
Hallama
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Not sure Burkle is any sort of threat like Bennett was to Seattle. Unless he buys the current Sac Kings (99% not going to happen), his deal will be to secure land and an arena before the NBA sells him, for example, New Orleans Hornets. If he wanted a city like Seattle, then he would just do the same there. He doesn't need to pull the wool over anybodies eyes in this scenario.
BTW - pretty funny if the NO Hornets come here to match the Sac State Hornets.
BTW - pretty funny if the NO Hornets come here to match the Sac State Hornets.
Peter_Gibbons
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The thing with the Maloofs financials is that no one really knows for sure. I've been following their Palms situation closely since a couple years ago. While they are in the dumpster with the Palms, they continue to spend money on their other ventures such as their Maloof Films/TV investments and the Maloof Money Cup. They've been expanding the MMC to new cities every year and building skate parks left and right. If they are really as broke as some are saying, where is the money coming from to do all this?
At the same time I do agree that what they've done with the Kings have shown some signs that at least leads outsiders to question their viability. So at the end, everyone thinks they know about the Maloofs' financials, but only they really know what they are trying to do themselves.
He played savior to the Pittsburgh Penguins and that was the result. The team was worth $111 million or so when he and Lemieux bought them and now is worth nearly 3 times that.
Showtime
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But that's my point entirely. Other than public statements, what of substance have we seen? Clay Bennett was singing the same song to Seattle when all along he was planning on moving the team. It seems to me that the fanbase is so desperate that they will open their legs to anybody and make totally emotional based decisions.
So again, other than what you want to happen because of your personal feelings about the team, what of substance proves he wants to keep the team here? All he's done is make public statements.
Showtime
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When was that ever decided?
mr. moustache
Bench
If you don't see how the situations are different, no amount of explaining will help. The Bennett deal was always about moving a team to OKC. The Burkle deal is about politics, Sacramento; and the political epicenter of the entire f&*#@g world.
If this was about $$ and Basketball; we'd be talking about Seattle.
RookieOfTheDay
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We have no other alternatives atm. It's either wave goodbye to the Kings and watch the Magoofs move the team or take a gamble on Burkle being a savior.
As has been pointed out, this guy has a track record of saving popular small market franchises.
Also, if the guy comes in promising to help fund an arena in Sac and then pulls a 180 the NBA will not respond in kind. This is not Seattle where the voters wrote it into the constitution that there will never be public funding for a sports team again. This is a city fighting for its right to help. And again, Clay Bennett clearly had an interest prior to the sale of moving a team. It was not a secret. He just lied to the seller. That does not appear to be the case here, who has powerful Sacramento based allies already and is looking to further those interests.
Kevin Johnson reached out to Anderson and thus Burkle to keep the Kings in Sacramento. The statements thus far have all been that the aim of the groups efforts are to keep the Kings in town OR bring another team in to Sacramento should the Kings leave. Why on earth should I be wary of his motives when the current owners are fighting to move the team?
As much as this scenario fails to appeal to me (though I'll be happy for Sac and not write off the NBA entirely if it occurred, even attend games when in town), this is a HUGE point in his favor and that he isn't trying to pull a swerve job. What is he going to buy the Hornets and move them to Sac for a season and then to Pitt? I don't think so.
Showtime
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The only differences are public perception, and that's my point. I do see the aspect of wanting to establish his name in Sacramento and the political realm of CA. I also see the possibility of this entire thing being a smokescreen for other personal agendas. The fact that I'm trying to present is that nothing substantial has surfaced, so all we have to go on are statements which have proven in the past to be as durable as the paper they are printed on.
Peter_Gibbons
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I understand your point Showtime and I agree with you. Its just hard to get some of the guys here to agree with you because they want to Kings to stay at almost any cost. Its their opinion so it is what it is.
Showtime
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This line of discussion came after the idea that the Maloofs would be forced to stay, and because of the burned bridges between the fans, also sell to Burkle. So...
...what if the city/county once again rejects the idea of public assistance in financing hundreds of millions for a new arena after the team has already been sold, and Burkle decides he doesn't want to finance a new arena entirely with private monies, and can add the NBA to another city, even join the Penguins up in PA?
I'm just saying, until something substantial is in the works, everything here is speculation and statements. Everything is up in the air, and could go in a very positive direction for sacramento, or go in a very negative one.
Look, we understand that this is a long shot and that there is a huge long road ahead paved with obstacles. We really do.
Stern has already shown he's lost all confidence in Sacramento. It would be 100 times easier for Burkle to get in from another city waiting for a team if he was inclined to do so. He could say he wanted to build an arena in Seattle and probably have the Hornets tomorrow.
Which is why we also understand that this guy isn't going to waste his time pretending to tread that road only to try and pull a swerve job at the last second. This is not Seattle nor is it pro-wrestling where businessmen are all Snidely Whiplash.
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Mad D
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Side note to their emotional outburst and bad poker faces, I read on another Kings blog that they were upset when they found out ***** fans were siting in their seats. Someone also mentioned that the fans may have been the Power Balance boys.
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