Best Point Guard?

[KevinMartin'sShotDoctor]

Kind of hard to vote against the MVP right now.

Chauncey...is great for a title contender. But oh so overrated when he starts being mentioend as the ebst this or MVP that. Not a great creative guy. Shoots 41.8% from the field. Its just that he is so physical and clutch it greatly inflates what would otherwise be a shaky portfolio.

By the way, last time I checked Gilbert Arenas was still starting at PG for the Wizards, and while you can say what you want about how he plays it, when a guy goes 29pts 6ast 2stl on the season as the starting PG for a #5 seed in the playoffs...should be on this list.

Fair enough. I don't even think of Arenas when I think "Point guard", and Arenas is probably a Billups type, only better. (And he has a great personality.) I think playing for a title contender has to factor in it, though. Because of clutch play and assists, I'd still put Billups over Parker, but that could change soon. Nash might be on another level, depending on how responsible you think he his for Boris Diaw's emergence.

 

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By the way, last time I checked Gilbert Arenas was still starting at PG for the Wizards, and while you can say what you want about how he plays it, when a guy goes 29pts 6ast 2stl on the season as the starting PG for a #5 seed in the playoffs...should be on this list.

If Gilbert Arenas was on the list, I would have to put Allen Iverson on the list as well. This comes down to your definition of a point guard. Personally for point guards I prefer those who can set up your teammates and run plays.

 

[acisking]

Here's the thing that makes Kidd the best point gaurd....defense. Simply put, there is nobody else who can play shutdown defense at that position. J-Kidd can gaurd not only 1s but 2s as well, and routinely plays defense against the opposing teams best players like Ray Allen and Kobe Bryant. Of course that isn't even considering the fact that he is so far ahead of anyone else in rebounding which makes him easily the most complete pg in the NBA.

 

[acisking]

kidd

he does everthing, he makes the great passes and makes everyone around him better just like nash, while also boarding and playing defense.

agree completely

 

[SpursIndonesia]

Kind of hard to vote against the MVP right now.

Chauncey...is great for a title contender. But oh so overrated when he starts being mentioend as the ebst this or MVP that. Not a great creative guy. Shoots 41.8% from the field. Its just that he is so physical and clutch it greatly inflates what would otherwise be a shaky portfolio.

By the way, last time I checked Gilbert Arenas was still starting at PG for the Wizards, and while you can say what you want about how he plays it, when a guy goes 29pts 6ast 2stl on the season as the starting PG for a #5 seed in the playoffs...should be on this list.

On Billups, i have to say that beside his clutchiness -spell ?- i really appreciate his leadership and defense. Actually, i think the soul of the current Pistons team is BigBen, but Chauncey has been the difference maker...........................Oh yeah, Gilbert Arenas, that guy's good. Has some character issue, but certainly deserved to be alloted in the same boat of Parker, Bibby, and Paul. Though i must say, his game resembles a SG rather than a PG, a bigger version of BoJax for my taste.

 

[SpursIndonesia]

Here's the thing that makes Kidd the best point gaurd....defense. Simply put, there is nobody else who can play shutdown defense at that position. J-Kidd can gaurd not only 1s but 2s as well, and routinely plays defense against the opposing teams best players like Ray Allen and Kobe Bryant. Of course that isn't even considering the fact that he is so far ahead of anyone else in rebounding which makes him easily the most complete pg in the NBA.

Kidd's a great rebounder as a PG, but his D's a bit overrated. Easily above average -though has been slipping since his latest injury and surgery- but not nearly having a shutdown D capability ala Bowen and Artest. One thing for sure, he CAN'T guard Tony Parker, he got killed defensively so bad in '03 final that his coach had to assign other player -Kerry Kittles- to replace him as Tony's defender. After that, until now, Tony always has the better numbers when the two sides meet in reg season. I rate Billups and Hinrich as better defenders compared to him.

 

[PixelPusher]

Kidd's a great rebounder as a PG, but his D's a bit overrated. Easily above average -though has been slipping since his latest injury and surgery- but not nearly having a shutdown D capability ala Bowen and Artest. One thing for sure, he CAN'T guard Tony Parker, he got killed defensively so bad in '03 final that his coach had to assign other player -Kerry Kittles- to replace him as Tony's defender. After that, until now, Tony always has the better numbers when the two sides meet in reg season. I rate Billups and Hinrich as better defenders compared to him.

Kidd can't guard Bibby either (he always has big games against Kidd). I think a lot of the props for Kidd these days is based more on past performance than current ability, kinda like the last 3 or 4 years for John Stockton.

 

[acisking]

Kidd's a great rebounder as a PG, but his D's a bit overrated. Easily above average -though has been slipping since his latest injury and surgery- but not nearly having a shutdown D capability ala Bowen and Artest. One thing for sure, he CAN'T guard Tony Parker, he got killed defensively so bad in '03 final that his coach had to assign other player -Kerry Kittles- to replace him as Tony's defender. After that, until now, Tony always has the better numbers when the two sides meet in reg season. I rate Billups and Hinrich as better defenders compared to him.

Kidd can't guard Bibby either (he always has big games against Kidd). I think a lot of the props for Kidd these days is based more on past performance than current ability, kinda like the last 3 or 4 years for John Stockton.

I completely disagree....I have watched nearly every Nets game this season and have seen him ROUTINELY shut down opposing pgs and even sgs. On back to back nights, Kidd held Billups to 6 points and Nash scoreless for example. I have seen him hold Ray Allen to terrible shooting percetnages this season, along with giving hard times to other big time scorers that I can't think of off the top of my head. He does have a little bit of trouble against lightning quick pgs like Parker, but still way better than anybody else defensively. Billups and Hinrich do not have nearly the amount of flexibility that Kidd does, nor are they as intelligent on the defensive end. I agree that Kidd may have lost a step or two offensively, but defensively he is honestly having an all-defensive team type of year.

 

[Amory]

Nash is the best PG in the NBA but Kidd is the best all around player that plays the PG position........IMO.

 

[ParniValjak]

At the moment I say Nash but if I was to build a team to contend from scratch then I would pick Paul everytime. This kid is already a star and by the time he is finished we will be talking about him as a HOF material

 

[Yoda]

Sam and Paul...no Bibby, Gilbert, or AI

This poll is not complete. A defeintion of a point gaurd is the guy who plays that postion for his team. If you are looking at who is the best ditributer, title it that.

 

[ParniValjak]

Sam and Paul...no Bibby, Gilbert, or AI

This poll is not complete. A defeintion of a point gaurd is the guy who plays that postion for his team. If you are looking at who is the best ditributer, title it that.

Paul > Bibby

 

[Folsom Al]

Aw, poor-poor Tony .... not ONE vote

 

[vladetomiller]

Billups' defense is way overrated, i wouldnt even term his as a top 5 defender in his position. He has two wallaces covering his back and a defensive system which utilizes them, thats about it. where was his defense when he played without these guys before. The same thing for manu or tony, they are not good defenders one on one but can play within a system and funnel the guys to duncan or nazr and their job is done.

It will be interesting to see these guys without that inside presence, the same that kidd has to go through or even Bibby. bibby is not a good defender at all, but his weakness will not be magnified if he had two bigs covering him up when he gets beat. Coaches also should take lots of credit for the teams defensive capabilities, teams that establish that physical hard nosed play through out the season get the same treatment in the playoffs as well saying that they are a physical team. how is being a physical team got to do anything with defense, a foul is a foul, but thats the way nba works.

Rip hanilton was grabbing and holding redd all through the two games yet its called physical defense, bowen or manu are able to elbow people and is called incidental or physical defense, but it doesnt apply for others. There is so much of refs perception of the game / player that comes into play that they forget that it shouldnt matter.