Beno needs to study some Nash Tapes.

OptimusRhyme

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I forget which commentator said it.. I think it was one of the Orlando commentators but.. Beno should be studying tapes of Steve Nash, hes got the same type of craftyness, dribbling talent and change of speed techniques Nash uses.. I meen Look how much the Richard Hamilton & Wade tapes helped Martin. Come on Beno dude we need you.
 
I stand behind Beno. He is struggling, but so was Martin. They each have a more defined and important role than ever before. Beno will never be the starter on a contending team, yes. Reality check: the Kings are not going to be that for a few years at best. Udrih is a decent enough PG at the right price for now. If it comes about, he could be the back-up for a contending team, which puts the Kings in the right position for where they are at in the cycle. He shows enough flashes to satisfy me.

As far as the OP, I could not agree more, Nash is the style he needs to be inflenced by. If he developed that style, he would be a decent back-up for a contending team.
 
I'd settle for Beno studying some Beno tapes from last year at this point.

And you either have Nash's talent and vision, or you don't. You can't study up to gain those instincts -- its innate.
 
I'd settle for Beno studying some Beno tapes from last year at this point.

And you either have Nash's talent and vision, or you don't. You can't study up to gain those instincts -- its innate.

Of course, but the point is that he does lean towards Nash's style. He attempts to get his team involved in the game more than getting a shot. He has the court vision to make those types of passes. But yes, last years tapes would help as well. He did pretty well when he started.
 
He needs a better work ethic

Bingo. The guy wouldn't ever study the tapes because he has no work ethic. He rarely practices, he sits out whenver he has any sort of issue whatsoever and doesn't really play with any heart. This was the same crap that Pop and company dealt with when he played for the Spurs. I mean, think about it, do you really think that the Spurs of all franchises would just let the guy walk if they felt he was going to be a solid asset in the league? They are a smart franchise and they let him go for the same reasons that we are dealing with now.

I'm afraid to say it, but I think that this was a classic case of a player playing hard for half a season to get his lifetime contract. He doesn't have the incentive or motivation to play the way he did last season anymore. He just doesn't have that competitive impulse in him that all great athletes need to compete at a high level nightly. I would not be shocked at all if Bobby Brown turned into our #1 point guard by the end of the season or early next year.

I'm not saying the guy is completely worthless, but I don't think he'll consistenly be the player that he was for us last year.
 
A year ago today he was an Euro NBA player an inch out of the league. It took an injury to a bad team's starting PG for him to even get signing consideration.

Fast forward to today, Beno is set for life financially with a long contract. You can't blame him for some mental lapses and just a less sense of drive and emotion than he had last year.

I do hope he gets over it though and starts earning his damn money. His play has been sickening.
 
well its up to theus to hammer the determination in Beno its not only Benos fault... if he is lazy the coach should see it and push him harder... then again if the coach is doing everything already then that person is the problem...

id prefer to the tape where in he burned kobe with that cross over...i mean dude you crossed the MVP lol
 
This is the NBA, and Beno has shown the talent to be in it. Do you guys really think he is relying on natural talent alone?... the guy works, and there is a good chance he works harder than you give him credit for to be where he is at...

Lets give him a little more time to settle in. I'm sure he has some pride, as well as loves the game, to be at the talent level he has shown. He obviously didn't get a chance to work the bugs out in preseason.

I say we give coaching (as well as management) the benefit of the doubt on seeing a spark of something for the signing.... for a few more games anyway.
 
Bingo. The guy wouldn't ever study the tapes because he has no work ethic.

How the hell do you know if he studies tapes or not? That's a pretty bold statement considering you don't know jack about his work ethic.

He rarely practices, he sits out whenver he has any sort of issue whatsoever and doesn't really play with any heart. This was the same crap that Pop and company dealt with when he played for the Spurs. I mean, think about it, do you really think that the Spurs of all franchises would just let the guy walk if they felt he was going to be a solid asset in the league? They are a smart franchise and they let him go for the same reasons that we are dealing with now.

Again, how do you know he sits out practices because of faking injuries? Are we talking about Ron Artest here? Beno isn't a prima donna who pulls that kind of thing. After he signed his deal, he chose not to play with his national team and instead played in summer league so he could play with his team. He may not be the most durable player on the team, but questioning his work ethic and commitment is pretty unfounded unless you are in the team's inner circle.

I'm afraid to say it, but I think that this was a classic case of a player playing hard for half a season to get his lifetime contract. He doesn't have the incentive or motivation to play the way he did last season anymore. He just doesn't have that competitive impulse in him that all great athletes need to compete at a high level nightly. I would not be shocked at all if Bobby Brown turned into our #1 point guard by the end of the season or early next year.

Once again, another unfounded comment. What, EXACTLY, have you seen, other than on the court play, to make such a conclusion? If all it takes is a few bad games coming off injury to draw such a conclusion, then wow. Imagine somebody coming on the site after the 0-4 start, and saying Kevin Martin was just mailing it in because he got paid, and doesn't care anymore because he struggled. They would have been called an idiot.

I'm not saying the guy is completely worthless, but I don't think he'll consistenly be the player that he was for us last year.

He has to stay healthy for that to happen, and I don't think he will. However, there's nothing to indicate he's mailing it in because he got his contract.
 
Showtime,

A lot of the things I said are pretty much well known around the NBA. You don't have to be in the inner circle of the team to know that. Just look up the comments that the Spurs and Pop said about him and it's pretty much what I'm saying here in different words. He's soft, doesn't play hurt, and frequently doesn't participate in practices. Those are facts. If you don't believe me then that's fine. You'll likely come to the same conclusion on Beno later in the year.

Don't get me wrong, I really hope he proves me wrong but I doubt he will. There are a lot of cases of NBA players having great seasons in their contract years and then not playing that hard after they secure a long term deal. NBA players are no different than people who hold normal jobs. There will be some that try to excel and push themselves everyday and there will be some that will do barely enough just to get by because they just don't care enough to be super successful. I believe Beno is that type of guy.
 
I forget which commentator said it.. I think it was one of the Orlando commentators but.. Beno should be studying tapes of Steve Nash, hes got the same type of craftyness, dribbling talent and change of speed techniques Nash uses.. I meen Look how much the Richard Hamilton & Wade tapes helped Martin. Come on Beno dude we need you.

Actually,I think Beno may have watched too many Steve Nash tape! He tried to split every double team, he tried to dribble his team out of trouble, and he tried to do things that his talent simply doesn't allow.

Forget Nash, Beno should study Steve Blake tape. Just bring the ball up and make a simple pass, that's all. Don't get cute, don't try to do the impossible, and most of all, don't do high dribble when you're 6 foot 3.
 
I hope somehow, these comments of ours reach Beno. He is just so terrible this season that you want to fire Theus for letting him play. He is playing worse than a D-leaguer, and/or playing like a confused rookie playing his first game. :o
 
He needs to look at the Bobby Brown tapes, the ones where you see the point guard actually playing some defense. I'm hoping Brown gets more pt...
 
Let's think more ambitiously and have him study tapes of prime Shaq, so he can learn to be a dominant 300+ lb. center.
 
I don't know how many of you remember Nash when he started out in the league, but he did a lot of stupid things, like drive into a crowd with nowhere to go with the ball. I remember early games between Nash and Bibby, where Bibby outplayed Nash big time. I remember thinking at the time that Nash would never be a good pt guard in this league as long as he playes out of control all the time.

Well, guess what? He learned from his mistakes and became one of the best in the league. I'm certainly not saying Beno is going to be another Nash, but he can be better than he is right now. And if not, then he probably won't be the starting point guard at some point in the future.
 
those were the good ole days.... and beno doesnt have it him...
 
Showtime,

A lot of the things I said are pretty much well known around the NBA. You don't have to be in the inner circle of the team to know that. Just look up the comments that the Spurs and Pop said about him and it's pretty much what I'm saying here in different words. He's soft, doesn't play hurt, and frequently doesn't participate in practices. Those are facts. If you don't believe me then that's fine. You'll likely come to the same conclusion on Beno later in the year.

Don't get me wrong, I really hope he proves me wrong but I doubt he will. There are a lot of cases of NBA players having great seasons in their contract years and then not playing that hard after they secure a long term deal. NBA players are no different than people who hold normal jobs. There will be some that try to excel and push themselves everyday and there will be some that will do barely enough just to get by because they just don't care enough to be super successful. I believe Beno is that type of guy.
Basketball is my favorite sport, and I have been following it for many years. I occasionally cover it on a sports media website. I haven't read anything about Beno, or comments from teammates or coaches, that says he doesn't practice or is a lazy player who doesn't give 100%. If you think it's common knowledge, where, exactly, did you get that information? I would honestly like to know, because this is the first I've heard of him being a lazy player.
 
Let's just say $$$ talks.

If I recall I remember some of us were talking about Beno being a very good backup PG, in terms of talent, even last year--he was (keyword was) definitely a calming influence in his headstrong savvy play as starter last year, and although he would go on scoring/shooting and assist binges from time to time, he wasn't elite in any one area, and really has some athleticism/defensive deficiencies against quicker players. I've documented my thoughts in the past on this issue--Beno was always billed as a jack of all trades master of none type even on draft day, and it's a tad safe to say he's overachieved in the league--but he's still not exceptional in any one area, and his game doesn't seem tailor-made to improve on from here on out, made even more so by his (lack of) work ethic. He's still young however and would make a solid transition starter for now, but he would be best served as a placeholder for a point guard (Bobby Brown? doubt it) who possesses great primacy, consistency, passing/shooting ability and/or elite defensive skills. Granted, that may be hard to find immediately, but we can always accomplish through draft or trade.
 
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