bee: Kings don't make move as trade deadline passes

[BMiller52]

So if the situation continues to be unpleasant for Bibby and it gets worse do you guys think he might opt out?

 

[gunks]

Too bad we didn't ask for a deadline extension to take more of a look at this: http://www.hoopsworld.com/article_20944.shtml Not enough perhaps, but a decent start, and something might have been made of it. Guess there's no point in worrying about it now, though.

I like Haslem....Drat. And Wright was playin pretty good when he was getting minutes.


That would have left us with no starting quality PG...But oh well, its not like Bibby has been playing like a starting quality PG this season.

I think Bibby's gone this summer, whether through trade or opting out. He seems pretty bitter about this whole situation..And its obvious that other teams want him.

 

[CaminoChaos]

So if the situation continues to be unpleasant for Bibby and it gets worse do you guys think he might opt out?

I don't think he will. He knows he can't get paid as much as he is. And the only teams that are going to be under the cap next summer already have a PG.

 

[BMiller52]

Who will be under the cap anyway? I know Orlando will and I dunno who else.

 

[Padrino]

So if the situation continues to be unpleasant for Bibby and it gets worse do you guys think he might opt out?

not unless he has a MAJOR turnaround post-all star break in his level of play. it just wouldn't make sense, financially, for him to opt out, considering the season he's having. his stock is about as low as its been his whole career. if the kings wanna move him sometime in the next two years, they're gonna have to trade him. the reason you would have liked to have traded him before the deadline was so you could get some contracts back that expire this year. that way, you'd shed salary almost immediately. at this point, you just wait for the best deal available.

 

[LilMissDiva]

Agree.

Until the Webber trade, Petrie didn't make mid-season bandaid adjustments. I'm thinking this could be interpreted to mean the days of trying to find "quick fix" solutions are finally over...

I agree too for the most part, however I would have loved to somehow get Verajao in a Kings uni.

Oh, well. May the bleeding be swift.

 

[NewMonkey]

Maybe because the season ticket holders will be asked to renew their tickets next month and the way this season is going they will be dropping like flies. I really don't know if I want to throw out my cash(Most is due before free agency begins in July...how convenient) knowing that I very well might end up with this same roster. Every team seemed to be scared to take on Bibby and the additional 28 million left on his deal...considering he is about the only moveable piece of the ****ty contracts we have I'm not sure what hope we have??

I've decided to not renew my season tickets. I don't mean to troll, but this team is going nowhere and Petrie has thus far failed in starting a youth movement. I've struggled all season to sell tickets, even at $51 for $81 face value tickets. This means I've repeatedly had to eat the full cost of the tickets and I can't justify the expense any longer. This decision has been brewing for some time now, so I'm not overreacting to today's bad news. It's just time to do something else with the $2,000 or so dollars I spend every year to watch the Kings.

 

[Kingster]

I think the opposite is true. Petrie has, either on his own or because of urging from the Maloofs, continually made "band aid" type deals. Short term stuff to try and keep the team competitive. That clearly didn't work. If he wasn't willing to pull the trigger on a trade deal this time, it could well be because they have finally realized you have to actually treat the wound and not just the symptoms...

I just do not subscribe to the notion that Geoff Petrie is blindly stumbling around with nary a clue about what it will take to right this ship.

You're agreeing with me. Yes, it is a 'band-aid' approach, which, by definition is short term and ad-hoc, not a comprehensive strategic approach, or, if it is, it's an unwitting one. If he would have had the foresight 2 years ago to realize the Miller-Bibby-Peja core was ridiculous, he would have started immediately to unload those guys when their market value was very high. Instead, he did do the "wait and see" approach and the "band-aid" approach and now we are 2 years down the line with no end of mediocrity in sight.

 

[thedofd]

I've decided to not renew my season tickets. I don't mean to troll, but this team is going nowhere and Petrie has thus far failed in starting a youth movement. I've struggled all season to sell tickets, even at $51 for $81 face value tickets. This means I've repeatedly had to eat the full cost of the tickets and I can't justify the expense any longer. This decision has been brewing for some time now, so I'm not overreacting to today's bad news. It's just time to do something else with the $2,000 or so dollars I spend every year to watch the Kings.

Well, maybe that's a message the Kings need to receive. You can talk up your sellout streak all you want, but the fans are tired of living in the past and want to see some legitimate, meaning moves to make this team truly competitive again before opening our wallets.

 

[AleksandarN]

http://blogs.ohio.com/cavaliers_blog/2007/02/no_diceor_bibby.html



No dice...or Bibby

The Cavs were unable to make a trade by today's deadline. I am told by sources that general manager Danny Ferry and his staff worked like crazy for days trying to get something done. They had three and four-team packages lined up, huge chucks of players moving here and there in an effort to get Sacramento to bite and deliver Mike Bibby. It just didn't work.
Three-team trades are hard to work out with unlimited time, much less with hours to spare. Everything gets very complex in these deals. Perhaps the Cavs have have laid the foundation for a big deal down the line, maybe this summer, but it didn't come today.
In the end, it was about Kings GM Geoff Petrie refusing to budge off his wish list, which was lots of expiring dollars and picks along with a big man like Drew Gooden. And Petrie shouldn't, Bibby is a valuable player and he shouldn't make a deal unless he's 100 percent sold on it. That's why he has a rep as an excellent GM.
As for the Cavs, I am told they tried everything in the book and tossed all their players except for LeBron into the mix to various teams. It seems Phoenix, who was just desperate to get rid of Marcus Banks, was in it until the end. But the Kings didn't want Banks and neither did the Cavs so nothing happened.

 

[Kingster]

So if the situation continues to be unpleasant for Bibby and it gets worse do you guys think he might opt out?

One line of thought is that the Kings broadcasted the potential Bibby trade all over the basketball world in order to tick him off enough so he would option out, even if it might cost him financially. It's an interesting scenario to consider. You have players that frequently use all kind of pressures on management to get themselves traded (Webber is a classic), so why shouldn't management do the same thing?

 

[gunks]

Yeah, I read an article talking about how Geoff didnt trade Bibby because he wasnt getting the expiring contracts and draft picks he wanted.

...Bad outcome, but a good sign. This summer could be the start of actually rebuilding the team.

 

[Bricklayer]

Yeah, I read an article talking about how Geoff didnt trade Bibby because he wasnt getting the expiring contracts and draft picks he wanted.

...Bad outcome, but a good sign. This summer could be the start of actually rebuilding the team.

That blurb from Petrie was the best news of the whole debacle.

Of course now you have to REALLY start to actively root against this squad, because the least little sign of competence could easily be seized upon by the Brothers Dork to short circuit the whole thing again and look for quick fixes this summer again. Management had finally caught up with the rest of the world at the deadline, it was finally there. And then nothing happened. Now the threat is going to lurk that any excuse, ANY excuse can be used to forget the lessons learned here, and from a cushy air conditioned office in July deluded dreaming of a soft, selfish revolution can start anew.

 

[gunks]

I think as long as we dont make the playoffs we should be safe

 

[sactown_draftpick]

im so sad i had hoped that a trade would happen so we could accually see a movement in some direction my time as a kings fan is over 2000-2007 hopefully when or if this team finds a direction i might become a fan once again as for now i might just cheer tha damn stupid lakers

 

[NewMonkey]

Well, maybe that's a message the Kings need to receive. You can talk up your sellout streak all you want, but the fans are tired of living in the past and want to see some legitimate, meaning moves to make this team truly competitive again before opening our wallets.

I would have been fine with the team getting worse to get better. But the Kings did the worst possible thing: sit on their hands with a semi-bad team, especially in a draft year like this one. It's pretty much impossible to improve a team like this when management does nothing.

 

[Vlade4GM]

lol, petrie is never going to get the value he wants for bibby.

 

[thedofd]

I would have been fine with the team getting worse to get better. But the Kings did the worst possible thing: sit on their hands with a semi-bad team, especially in a draft year like this one. It's pretty much impossible to improve a team like this when management does nothing.

If the choice was sitting on their hands or taking on Marcus Banks' bad contract, I'd take the hands.

I also wonder whether the Kings' interest in acquiring Gooden was tied to being able to move KT or Shareef. I can't imagine a scenario where having all three of those guys the rest of the season would end happily.

 

[Vlade4GM]

If the choice was sitting on their hands or taking on Marcus Banks' bad contract, I'd take the hands.

I also wonder whether the Kings' interest in acquiring Gooden was tied to being able to move KT or Shareef. I can't imagine a scenario where having all three of those guys the rest of the season would end happily.

yea because bibby's contract is heaven isn't it

why does everyone think bibby is worth so much?

 

[VF21]

im so sad i had hoped that a trade would happen so we could accually see a movement in some direction my time as a kings fan is over 2000-2007 hopefully when or if this team finds a direction i might become a fan once again as for now i might just cheer tha damn stupid lakers

Don't let the door hit you on the posterior on your way out.

 

[Elektrik]

You're kidding, right? Corliss Williamson is a class act and savvy veteran. He can speak with experience of going all the way and winning the big show. He's got a sixth man of the year award under his belt and he's ALWAYS ready to play.

Corliss is one of those players any team in the league is lucky to have as a mentor to their young players.

Not to mention he has a NCAA championship as well. Corliss is in a single word a....winner. We could stand a few more of those around here.

 

[LPKingsFan]

If the choice was sitting on their hands or taking on Marcus Banks' bad contract, I'd take the hands.

I also wonder whether the Kings' interest in acquiring Gooden was tied to being able to move KT or Shareef. I can't imagine a scenario where having all three of those guys the rest of the season would end happily.

Banks only makes about $4mil/year. Not bad for a backup point guard.

 

[kennadog]

Every team seemed to be scared to take on Bibby and the additional 28 million left on his deal...considering he is about the only moveable piece of the ****ty contracts we have I'm not sure what hope we have??

Where did you get the idea teams were scared to take on Bibby and his contract? Everything written has been that Cleveland was desperate to take on Bibby. And the Heat apparently wouldn't have minded too much either.

 

[Vlade4GM]

Where did you get the idea teams were scared to take on Bibby and his contract? Everything written has been that Cleveland was desperate to take on Bibby. And the Heat apparently wouldn't have minded too much either.

process of elimination for them. 1.) a deal wasn't made 2.) the kings FO is infallable 3.) so it must be bibby's contract that "scared" teams off. simple logic