Bee: Adelman gets support, but it's too late (merged)

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NBA insider: Adelman gets support, but it's too late
By Martin McNeal -- Bee Staff Writer
Published 2:15 am PDT Sunday, May 14, 2006

We learned this week there is no place like Sacramento when it comes to its Kings.

The furor set off by the Maloofs' decision against re-signing coach Rick Adelman is a tad short of incredible.

Adelman, the winningest coach in franchise history with 395 regular-season victories, suddenly went from one of the league's most maligned and second-guessed coaches by his own fan base to something of a basketball martyr.

Where were all of these Adelman supporters before Tuesday afternoon's announcement? The support the man has received since the "mutually agreed" decision has been as resounding as it was late.

The Maloofs have every right to feel comfortable with a man to whom they paid $4 million this season and more than $20 million during his eight-year stint, and they did not. End of story.

And while some might believe it's not necessary for a coach to schmooze with the owner - or owners, in this case - it is undeniable Adelman did absolutely nothing to endear himself to a group he ultimately would ask for more dollars.

Moreover, some of his decisions in dealing with the Maloofs - many of which were naturally shaped by his private persona - eventually slashed his tether.

In conversations with both sides, it's clear the communication level between the Maloofs and Adelman was basically zero.

Adelman sometimes gave an aura - knowingly or not - that he didn't feel the need to talk to them or anyone else else, and that understandably made the Maloofs wonder why they should go out of their way to talk to him. And that's even with their offices - shared with Monarchs coach/general manager John Whisenant - at the practice facility just 15 or so feet apart.

Adelman says he plans on coaching again because that's what he does.

Undoubtedly, it's difficult for a leopard to change its spots, but Adelman can make his life much easier and relatively more pleasant for his family, if he just does what he knows he needs to do - coach.

There were times when Adelman, who has been an NBA coach since 1988, seemed as if he didn't know he was responsible to meet with the media. And this comes from a reporter with whom he always had a good relationship.

Hey, we all - unless we own the joint - have to talk with our bosses, even if we don't like them.

Then again, we're talking about the Maloofs - passionate, yet somewhat neophyte owners, who say they don't understand their responsibilities. And we're talking unquestionably about some of the best owners in professional sports.

They've invested huge bucks in the team and the community.

Those who say the Maloofs are looking to move the team are nuts. They are businessfolks looking to stay in a community that is fertile, if not blessed with mega-corporate dollars. However, one way or another, a new arena is necessary. And that's for their group and local leaders to figure out.

Yet owners should not be seen on camera screaming for their coach to call a timeout. Owners, no matter their courtside seat locations, should not scream anything other than encouragement to their players.

Yet Kings guard Jason Hart acknowledged a few days ago that Joe Maloof, in more than one game, had screamed at him to do something different from Adelman's instructions. Hart, who admittedly struggled this season and Thursday activated the $1.68 million option on the second and final year of his contract, was having enough problems without having to hear that.

It's not Utah owner Larry Miller walking into the huddle and berating his players, but it's certainly overboard.

Yet it's that fan's passion and competitive nature that has made the Maloofs a luxury-tax paying ownership group up until this season. It's what has led Gavin Maloof to dance and jump onto the press table after a big victory.

They are like many of us. Some of the same characteristics that make us excel in one area fail in another.

What has become intensely clear from all the sound bites is that this decision was patently correct. Kings president of basketball operations Geoff Petrie is hardly perfect, but he was right to sign off on this one. Who knows how many times he has been caught in the middle of this Sacramento vise?

These two parties no longer could work as one. And it had nothing to do with how Adelman was going to use Ron Artest in his first full season, find a way to restore the hard-nosed edge in center Brad Miller or get Mike Bibby to move his feet better at the defensive end.

This divorce was granted because of irreconcilable differences, folks. Deal with it. In the best scenarios, the Maloofs will hire a coach who can take a talented squad, make the most of it and sit down and enjoy dinner with them as well.


Adelman will get another job, ease up a tad and enjoy what outwardly seems like a heck of a lifestyle, and work for owners with whom his personality fits.

Now, in the worst scenario, it's another story, hopefully, one that will not unfold.

About the writer: The Bee's Martin McNeal can be reached at mmcneal@sacbee.com.
 
That makes me angry. We've all been frustrated one time or another but Adelman is the coach, not the Maloofs. Adelman didn't become one of the most successful coaches in the NBA, ever, for nothing, either.
 
I think from the article above it's pretty clear things were never going to get better...

Owners yelling at Jason Hart on the court? That's just wrong. If they had no faith whatsoever in Adelman, they should have fired him at the beginning of the season. To undermine his authority by screaming instructions at a player is ... well, not something I would want.

And did you notice? Hart exercised his player option. I sure hope Coach Joe can help Jason improve his game.

I'm done even thinking about this now. Reading this article, the Maloofs are - IMHO - exactly like Dr. and Mrs. York. I'll love the team in spite of the owners.
 
VF21 said:
And did you notice? Hart exercised his player option. I sure hope Coach Joe can help Jason improve his game.
Well, the good news is that that makes him a tradeable asset: Hart + Potapenko + Williamson = $11.5M in expiring contracts, which makes the players much more attractive to other teams than they would be otherwise, especially considering the talent that's going to be available next offseason... those three, plus... say, Brad Miller, ought to be worth a superstar, but we might have to wait until the winter trade deadline.
 
Mr. S£im Citrus said:
Well, the good news is that that makes him a tradeable asset: Hart + Potapenko + Williamson = $11.5M in expiring contracts, which makes the players much more attractive to other teams than they would be otherwise, especially considering the talent that's going to be available next offseason... those three, plus... say, Brad Miller, ought to be worth a superstar, but we might have to wait until the winter trade deadline.

No way we would get a superstar for those 4 players. No way, well not a superstar at the moment of the trade, he might turn into one later, but not at the moment.
 
The way I saw the whole Adelman thing and the options the Maloofs' had....

One year left on contract scenario:
If he had another year left on the contract than we keep him. If he did well in 2006-2007 with our current crop of players than we offer the extension. If he did not than the decision would have been more clear cut. He did a bangup job in the second half, and it would have been nice to see him take this team to a 55-60 win season and having a better playoff seeding.

Extending for one year (through the end of 2007):
After this year only giving Adelman a one year extnesion would have been a slap to him, and he probally would have said no.

Offering him a multi year deal:
A lot of people wanted him out in the middle of the year (before we got Artest) including myself. At least the Maloofs' aren't out any cash by terminating his contract early (if he was extended for another few years). Plus, it might turn into a whole George Karl episode. Adelman would be owed a lot of money if it didn't work out and he was fired at the end of 2007, and the Maloofs' would be hunting for another coach while still paying Adelman.

Basically the only thing we could have done was give him 3+ years, and hope that we aren't firing him and still owing 2+ years.
 
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GoSACtown said:
No way we would get a superstar for those 4 players. No way, well not a superstar at the moment of the trade, he might turn into one later, but not at the moment.
Don't be so sure; if a team has a superstar that they think can't get them over the hump, and want to build in a different direction, they might feel like they'd be further ahead to clear up that cap space and make an offer to somebody that'll be available in '07:

Suppose Larry Bird and Donnie Walsh decide, for whatever reason, that Jermaine O'Neal isn't the guy to get the Pacers to the next level. Suppose they decide that it might be a better idea to build the Pacers of the future around Chris Bosh and Danny Granger? But, they need cap space, right?

Well, that's where we come in.

Miller, Potapenko, Williamson and Hart to Indiana, O'Neal and Johnson to Minnesota... Garnett and a conditional pick to Sacramento?

Pacers get a competent center, and cap space to make a max offer to a budding star like Bosh.
Timberwolves get a slightly younger, slightly cheaper version of Kevin Garnett.
Kings get the real thing.

Everybody wins.

I can't check on RealGM, due to something funky in Williamson's contract, but the numbers add up on my calculator.
 
Sometimes loyalty is a bad thing!

Now...I feel I'm one of the most loyal Kings fans there is. I've been at ARCO since Day 1 back in the old 10,333 arena. So, I know how loyal Kings fans are because I'm one of them.

However, I have trouble being loyal to people that have failed me time and time again. Peja was one...excluding Game 4 of the Phoenix series in 2001, I was getting sick of his disappearing act in the playoffs...so I was glad to see him go because we all agree Artest was an upgrade...and contrary to popular opinion...I'm all FOR Adelman being gone.

I feel that Kings fans are being too loyal to this guy who never really did anyting different with the Kings than he did with Portland. I'll agree that he's one of the greatest regular season coaches ever...his numbers prove that...but his playoff record is another thing.

Every time the man has been in the playoffs, he's been outcoached and his teams have been outplayed by better coached and better defensive teams.

In 2 trips to the Finals, the Bad Boy Pistons of the Chuck Daly era punked Adelman's soft Blazer team and the 1992 Bulls took advantage of an Adelman coached team that didn't know how to finish them off in Game 5 on the road. The Blazers had a double-digit lead in the 4th qtr in Chicago, and watched it slip away...kind of like Game 4 with the Kings against LA in 2002.

Fast-forward to 2006. Adelman and the Kings had the Spurs a little worried going into GAme 5. So Popovich being the CHAMPIONSHIP coach that he is...adjusted and put the more agile Robert Horry on Brad Miller because "Pop" saw Miller was becoming a factor in the series...and for the Spurs, that meant trouble. "Pop" also realized that Tony Parker could run Mike Bibby all over the court, so he made Parker tire Bibby out on D making Bibby's jumper come up short when it mattered and causing him to make uncharacteristic turnovers. Had Adelman made the adjustment of putting better perimeter defenders like Jason Hart on Parker more often or EVEN Ronnie Price...then Parker might not have gone off as much as he did in Games 5 and 6. Bibby may not be a good defender, but he can be put in a situation where he can succeed as a defender...by guarding wing players like Bowen who don't do anything but camp in the corner and shoot 3's.

Look at what Avery Johnson is doing now against Parker. He's matching quickness with quickness with Devon Harris.

HArris' Stat Line in Game 3: 24 pts on 7/14 from the floor and he made the game-winning defensive play on Ginnobli.

Parker went 6 of 16 with 16 pts, but they were a very quiet 16 and he was a nonfactor in the 4th.

Both of these coaches (Johnson and Popovich) have shown they have that they have that knack for coaching in big games. To me, Adelman has never shown it...and until he wins a title...that will be his legacy. One of the best coaches that never won the big one.

SO, for the record...as far as I'm concerned...anybody who questioned the MAloofs for firing Adelman doesn't know their basketball because his style and tactics weren't working for this team. The Webber/Divac era was perfect for him, but this team isn't meant to be coached by Adelman. There are better coaches out there for THIS team.

Phil Jackson was able to get to the playoffs with Kobe and a bunch of misfits without making a major midseason trade. Adelman couldn't get the Kings in the playoff race with the team he had, and basically forced the MAloofs to have to get Ron Artest. Artest breathed new life into this team and he should be the one given the lion's share of the credit for the playoff push, and Bonzi for making the Kings put up a fight. All I can say is that if that Martin layup doesn't fall in Game 3, the KIngs lose and probably get swept and all of Sacramento wants Adelman's head on a platter. Think about that as well.

It's time for Kings fans to move on and realize that everything the Maloofs and Petrie have touched so far has turned into gold for the Kings...and TRUST THEIR JUDGEMENT. Maybe the way they went about the firing was wrong...but the move was the right one! Come on Kings fans...GET OVER IT AND MOVE ON!
 
Amanjoy said:
SO, for the record...as far as I'm concerned...anybody who questioned the MAloofs for firing Adelman doesn't know their basketball.

This board is all about discussing differing opinions. And a lot of the people around here know A LOT about basketball. I think you'll find that there will be a lot of people willing to debate with you.
 
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Amanjoy said:
I feel that Kings fans are being too loyal to this guy who never really did anyting different with the Kings than he did with Portland. I'll agree that he's one of the greatest regular season coaches ever...his numbers prove that...but his playoff record is another thing.

Every time the man has been in the playoffs, he's been outcoached and his teams have been outplayed by better coached and better defensive teams.

In 2 trips to the Finals, the Bad Boy Pistons of the Chuck Daly era punked Adelman's soft Blazer team and the 1992 Bulls took advantage of an Adelman coached team that didn't know how to finish them off in Game 5 on the road. The Blazers had a double-digit lead in the 4th qtr in Chicago, and watched it slip away...kind of like Game 4 with the Kings against LA in 2002.

Fast-forward to 2006. Adelman and the Kings had the Spurs a little worried going into GAme 5. So Popovich being the CHAMPIONSHIP coach that he is...adjusted and put the more agile Robert Horry on Brad Miller because "Pop" saw Miller was becoming a factor in the series...and for the Spurs, that meant trouble. "Pop" also realized that Tony Parker could run Mike Bibby all over the court, so he made Parker tire Bibby out on D making Bibby's jumper come up short when it mattered and causing him to make uncharacteristic turnovers. Had Adelman made the adjustment of putting better perimeter defenders like Jason Hart on Parker more often or EVEN Ronnie Price...then Parker might not have gone off as much as he did in Games 5 and 6. Bibby may not be a good defender, but he can be put in a situation where he can succeed as a defender...by guarding wing players like Bowen who don't do anything but camp in the corner and shoot 3's.

Look at what Avery Johnson is doing now against Parker. He's matching quickness with quickness with Devon Harris.

HArris' Stat Line in Game 3: 24 pts on 7/14 from the floor and he made the game-winning defensive play on Ginnobli.

Parker went 6 of 16 with 16 pts, but they were a very quiet 16 and he was a nonfactor in the 4th.

Both of these coaches (Johnson and Popovich) have shown they have that they have that knack for coaching in big games. To me, Adelman has never shown it...and until he wins a title...that will be his legacy. One of the best coaches that never won the big one.
The only problem with the point you are trying to make is that Both Pop and Johnson are blessed with having better players than Adelman. We literally have no one on the roster that can guard Parker that would also not be a liability on the offensive end. We don't have the luxury of a Devon Harris to throw at him. It isn't as if Adelman does not know how to use matchups to his advantage. Bonzi Wells was a beast in the Spurs series and Artest gave Ginobli fits throughout. As much emphasis as people like to put on the mind games coaches play, the truth of the matter is that you need very talented basketball teams to win championships. See the Lakers-Phoenix series for an example of why this is the case. I dont care if PJ was coaching the team this year, the Kings were not going to win that series. The Spurs were a vastly more talented and experienced team. It is a result driven world, especially in sports. And looking at Adelman from a results standpoint, all he did was get our team to the WCF once. From that, he could be viewed as a failure, considering we were a legit contender for three of his years here and were it not for Webber blowing out his knee, Vlade batting the ball out to Horry, having the entire team forget how to hit free throws, having Mike Bibbys chin foul Kobes elbow, Webber missing the game winning three in the Minni series, etc. we would not be having this discussion.

Now it is possible that it was time for a new coach, but one thing you can't argue with is the success that Adelman had here. The man brought more success and attention to this franchise than anyone for the past several decades. For that, he deserves the respect of the fans and the Maloofs. This franchise would be nothing without Adelman.
 
Well, it seems the Bee pulled a hatchet job on the Maloofs again. The unanimous reaction from the whole Bee Sports staff that initially occured led me to believe that the Maloofs were meddling, had strong-armed Petrie, and mistreated Adelman. Now we find out that Petrie really did sign off on the move, and that Adelman and the Maloofs never talked. What I take from this article is that the "cold war" between the Maloofs and Adelman didn't begin with the Phil Jackson debacle, but had always existed. This explains Petrie making the call informing Adelman. If Adelman only ever talked to Petrie, why break the norm? I was wrong on this initially and I admit it.

Adelman could have been aloof and gotten away with it if he produced, and by produced I mean championships. That is the kind of behavior that only the truly special can get away with, otherwise you need to play office politics. It sucks, but that's the way it is. If you want autonomy, and the ability to tell the owners to pee off, you better be getting them some rings. He didn't and he paid for it. Moreover, the Maloofs are FANS. They are extremely interested in the game, and need someone to teach it to them. Like it or not, that's part of the job description as head coach of the Kings. Apparently, Adelman took offense to that, or felt he didn't need to explain himself, and he lost his job. You know, Nellie taught Cuban the game. Compare Cuban then to Cuban now. He can break down tape today, as a freaking owner. I'm not saying he could step in and coach, but Nellie gave him a first class education about the game of basketball. I don't think there's any coincidence that the Maloofs are so tight with Nellie.

I feel good about things after this article. It seems that Adelman was not the right fit for the Maloofs. Adelman should probably coach college. He seems to be a very good teacher and mentor, but poor at handling the extra duties that come with being a pro coach. In college, his team would be his own little fiefdom. You'll never see a coach that makes the tournament 8 years in a row get fired. The AD and the Dean would be way too scared of the alumni to pull a move like that.
 
Amanjoy said:
or EVEN Ronnie Price...then Parker might not have gone off as much as he did in Games 5 and 6.

LOL- I didn't mind your post so much and was willing to debate you on the merits until I got to this part. Then I had a hard time taking you seriously.

Rick wasn't perfect, but to blame him for Parker going off, and then offering up RONNIE PRICE as the solution is just silly. Ronnie was an UNDRAFTED rookie who barely played his way onto the roster and hadn't played a meaningful minute since the game against Dallas in December. You don't just suddenly throw that guy into the playoffs in a hotly contested playoff series. I like Ronnie a lot, and I think that one day he MIGHT develop into a nice backup PG, but he is no where near ready for significant minutes in an NBA game, much less a playoff game against Tony Parker.

I don't know what you wanted Rick to do to slow down Parker. Seems to me that he tried a lot of different things. Bibby played him most of the series with poor results, but Bibby isn't going to slow down Parker. Rick tried to gear the team defense in various games with mixed results. He tried Martin, but Martin wasn't quick enough. He tried Ron from time to time, but he had the same problem. He tried Hart on occasion, and while Hart was decent defensively, it wasn't exactly Bowen on Peja defense.

Plus, Hart got some big minutes in Game 2, but he didn't earn many more because he is just hopeless offensively. Frankly, we couldn't take Bibby out (even a cold Bibby) because even though he was struggling, the team had a hard time scoring most of the series. Miller and KT were invisible. Reef was a turnover machine. Garcia and Hart were cold in their short stretches. Martin was energetic but inconsistent. Artest was wildly inconsistent on offense. Other than Bonzi who was scoring points consistently?

Any argument to play Bibby LESS in the series seems crazy to me- who is gonna score your points- Ronnie Price??? Saying we need more defense is one thing. Suggesting we take out our best offensive player for long stretches and replace him with 1) a slightly above average defensive player with NO ability to hit a shot or 2) an undrafted rookie seems crazy. Sometimes you have to play with the hand you have been dealt- even if it is Bibby guarding Parker...
 
By the way- just looked it up- Bibby scored 108 points in the series, Parker 133. That means Parker was +25 over the entire series. Bibby was +5 in assists, so it is unfair to say Parker dominated Bibby- Parker scored 4 more points a game, and Bibby had one more assist per game.

Jason Hart/Ronnie Price were going to have to play one whale of a defensive game to limit the Parker advantage at point guard to 25 points.
 
There are plenty of things to irratiate and out right anger fans here, but the BIG mistake the Maloofs made was in firing Adelamn before they were able to announce a new coach that could at least be billed as an improvement. In the absence of a succssor for comparison they just BEG criticisim and have no PR refuge. Dumb move that any yahoo with a BA in PR could have predicted would create a firestorm.

I'd sugest that while reinventing the organization they look into a new crew for PR.
 
HndsmCelt said:
There are plenty of things to irratiate and out right anger fans here, but the BIG mistake the Maloofs made was in firing Adelamn before they were able to announce a new coach that could at least be billed as an improvement. In the absence of a succssor for comparison they just BEG criticisim and have no PR refuge. Dumb move that any yahoo with a BA in PR could have predicted would create a firestorm.

I'd sugest that while reinventing the organization they look into a new crew for PR.

Seriously, the Maloofs are going to need some damage control after this move. Yelling at the players when they are on the court? That isn't even fair. Jason Hart had enough on his mind without getting conflicting advice from his coach and the owners.

I'm honestly surprised that they haven't announced a new coach yet. Even though they said at the time they didn't know who they were going to hire, I figured that they had a game plan they weren't ready to divulge, but I guess I gave them too much credit...
 
VF21 said:
I think from the article above it's pretty clear things were never going to get better...

Owners yelling at Jason Hart on the court? That's just wrong. If they had no faith whatsoever in Adelman, they should have fired him at the beginning of the season. To undermine his authority by screaming instructions at a player is ... well, not something I would want.

And did you notice? Hart exercised his player option. I sure hope Coach Joe can help Jason improve his game.

I'm done even thinking about this now. Reading this article, the Maloofs are - IMHO - exactly like Dr. and Mrs. York. I'll love the team in spite of the owners.

Exactly like the Yorks?? Are you kidding me?? The Yorks couldn't care less about the 49ers. They care more about a pimple on their butt than they do the franchise. The Maloofs LOVE this team. It is their baby, and they want to win. The Yorks could care less about winning. That's been made extremely clear by what's happened to the 49ers since Eddie D hasn't been around.

You are comparing one of the best ownership groups in the NBA, to one of the worst in the NFL. That's a HORRIBLE comparison IMO.
 
SacTownKid said:
Seems like Marty calmed down a bit in the last few days.

I don't think he's changed his mind about HOW the decision/announcement came down. This article did shed more light, however, on WHY it happened.

I think Marty is still very obviously pointing out some things the Maloofs have done/not done that he doesn't agree with. The comment by Jason Hart that Marty chose to use in this piece speaks volumes.
 
DocHolliday said:
You are comparing one of the best ownership groups in the NBA, to one of the worst in the NFL. That's a HORRIBLE comparison IMO.

Okay, I'll admit to being a little overboard on that.

:o
 
VF21 said:
Okay, I'll admit to being a little overboard on that.

:o

Ok good. I thought you were losing it for a sec. I mean I may have come off as a huge Maloofs homer in the last week. I don't know if I exactly am, but man I'd rather have them as owners than a lot of people. I think we're pretty lucky, and in general I think the Maloofs have taken WAY too much heat over this Adelman thing.

I think it was in the paper yesterday that the Maloofs announced they will be the only one to hand down hirings and firings from now on. The decision process will still be the same with the family and Petrie unanimously agreeing, but the Maloofs will be the one to hand down the official word. I'm not sure if that encompasses trade's as well. They don't want to have to deal with the way the media treated them this last week again.
 
Amanjoy said:
Now...I feel I'm one of the most loyal Kings fans there is. I've been at ARCO since Day 1 back in the old 10,333 arena. So, I know how loyal Kings fans are because I'm one of them.

However, I have trouble being loyal to people that have failed me time and time again. Peja was one...excluding Game 4 of the Phoenix series in 2001, I was getting sick of his disappearing act in the playoffs...so I was glad to see him go because we all agree Artest was an upgrade...and contrary to popular opinion...I'm all FOR Adelman being gone.

I feel that Kings fans are being too loyal to this guy who never really did anyting different with the Kings than he did with Portland. I'll agree that he's one of the greatest regular season coaches ever...his numbers prove that...but his playoff record is another thing.

Every time the man has been in the playoffs, he's been outcoached and his teams have been outplayed by better coached and better defensive teams.

In 2 trips to the Finals, the Bad Boy Pistons of the Chuck Daly era punked Adelman's soft Blazer team and the 1992 Bulls took advantage of an Adelman coached team that didn't know how to finish them off in Game 5 on the road. The Blazers had a double-digit lead in the 4th qtr in Chicago, and watched it slip away...kind of like Game 4 with the Kings against LA in 2002.

Fast-forward to 2006. Adelman and the Kings had the Spurs a little worried going into GAme 5. So Popovich being the CHAMPIONSHIP coach that he is...adjusted and put the more agile Robert Horry on Brad Miller because "Pop" saw Miller was becoming a factor in the series...and for the Spurs, that meant trouble. "Pop" also realized that Tony Parker could run Mike Bibby all over the court, so he made Parker tire Bibby out on D making Bibby's jumper come up short when it mattered and causing him to make uncharacteristic turnovers. Had Adelman made the adjustment of putting better perimeter defenders like Jason Hart on Parker more often or EVEN Ronnie Price...then Parker might not have gone off as much as he did in Games 5 and 6. Bibby may not be a good defender, but he can be put in a situation where he can succeed as a defender...by guarding wing players like Bowen who don't do anything but camp in the corner and shoot 3's.

Look at what Avery Johnson is doing now against Parker. He's matching quickness with quickness with Devon Harris.

HArris' Stat Line in Game 3: 24 pts on 7/14 from the floor and he made the game-winning defensive play on Ginnobli.

Parker went 6 of 16 with 16 pts, but they were a very quiet 16 and he was a nonfactor in the 4th.

Both of these coaches (Johnson and Popovich) have shown they have that they have that knack for coaching in big games. To me, Adelman has never shown it...and until he wins a title...that will be his legacy. One of the best coaches that never won the big one.

SO, for the record...as far as I'm concerned...anybody who questioned the MAloofs for firing Adelman doesn't know their basketball because his style and tactics weren't working for this team. The Webber/Divac era was perfect for him, but this team isn't meant to be coached by Adelman. There are better coaches out there for THIS team.

Phil Jackson was able to get to the playoffs with Kobe and a bunch of misfits without making a major midseason trade. Adelman couldn't get the Kings in the playoff race with the team he had, and basically forced the MAloofs to have to get Ron Artest. Artest breathed new life into this team and he should be the one given the lion's share of the credit for the playoff push, and Bonzi for making the Kings put up a fight. All I can say is that if that Martin layup doesn't fall in Game 3, the KIngs lose and probably get swept and all of Sacramento wants Adelman's head on a platter. Think about that as well.

It's time for Kings fans to move on and realize that everything the Maloofs and Petrie have touched so far has turned into gold for the Kings...and TRUST THEIR JUDGEMENT. Maybe the way they went about the firing was wrong...but the move was the right one! Come on Kings fans...GET OVER IT AND MOVE ON!


Don't be blinded by a Time Bomb waiting to go off, A individual who has Delusions of grandeur about his Total game,A fool who you should be careful to follow. He Brought in a Breath of Fresh air, That can turn into a high Degree of Anthrax inhalation of you don't be careful with what you are Dealing with.



Defensively he helped the kings in a Area that they Badly needed teh energy to becoming Better and winning more Games. But i tell you this much if you think it wasn't because of the Freedom that Adleman encourages with his style of Coaching and system of basketball then you may suffer the Same Delusional mentality that Big Ron Ron sufffers from. The Dude needs a 24 hr psychologist to coach his Erratic Behaviour, He needs constant attention , The type of Attention that says your the Man Ron, Your like kobe bryant and Allen iverson, You are the leader. The coaching staff were Briefed on what type of Dude Ron Ron is and they were also Briefed on how he wanted more field goal attempts and wanted the Basket ball more in his Hands. He was blessed momentarily with the right basketball situation that fit him and his alter Ego's. Rick Adleman was the perfect coach for these personalities that Ron Ron has in his psychological makeup as a Basketball player.



Rick Carlise wasn't going to ever give Ron Ron that Green light and open offensive freedom to Be Mcrgady or Kobe Bryant like, This is what Ron wanted, He couldn't stand the stiff play calling and disciplined style of Offense, He wanted out because it was boring to him to not have the ball in his hands and not being able to create like Jordan and Bryant and the other Great 1 on 1 players in the game.He comes to Sacramneto, under a coach who gives freedom and open offense, Rick sits down with the moron and Tells him and his alter ego's that he knows he can play Defense, But he wants to make his Butt a better player all around particularly on the offensive End of the floor, Helping him to be a intaitor and distributer, rather than a Dump it down Brute post up player, Which he was Regulated in doing in Indiana.


This change of Scenary helped Ron and His various mood swings Become productive citizens of the basketball community and inspired him to change his out look and take on the open Responsibilties that he so craved being confined and Restricted of doing in Indiana. This couldn't have been accomplished with a Great popovich or larry Brown, Maybe a phil jackson but Defintely a Rick adleman Because of the type of Coach that he is.


Rick allowed Ron to Basically Dribble the shot clock off like a Kobe Bryant or allen iverson, He allowed him to shoot the ball through triple teams, Things that were forbidden to do in Indiana, But things that Ron artest and his mood Swings craved so Dearly, he found that chance in doing under adleman.


We can Trick ourselves into thinking that Rick played no Difference in the comback of the season if we want to, But the little intangible things will show up when Ron Ron goes Ballistic with a PJ or some other Defensive minded Guru strcict head coach come in here and Tells Ron, I don't want you going 1 on 5 anymore or Your not a point guard Ron, you don't have the same Game that kobe Bryant and McGrady have, Your Greastest weapon Ron Ron is your post up game, We don't want anymore of you Dribbling the Basketball like a Guard, We Run it this way in this system Ron. Watch what you will see the choker Head case Ron Ron come bacl alive, He isn't going to like the structure, Rick was the perfect coach for this type of Behaviour.



downplaying his recent shooting slump -- declaring that bad shots he takes should be shrugged off as if "Kobe or Tim Duncan or Michael Jordan" took them



I'm so demanding of the ball. It's not my fault," he said. "Every time somebody is on me it's a mismatch. It messes up the offense. I like Coach (Carlisle) as a person, but I don't like playing for Coach. I like my team, though."
The Pacers run a structured offense in which Carlisle calls out most plays. That frustrates Artest, who has complained about the system in the past.


Artest seeks a system in which he can score more, which would lead to a bigger contract when his expires in 2008. He has a player option for $8.5 million for the 2008-09 season.
"Here I don't think I'm going to have a chance to maximize my opportunity for my potential," he said. "When I first got here, all I wanted to do was play defense. I never really cared about offense, but what I see is players like Kobe (Bryant), Tracy (McGrady), (Gilbert) Arenas and Jermaine (O'Neal) getting the opportunity to maximize their potential on the court and to get paid. I'm out of my character a little bit here.
"I don't think I'm going to maximize my opportunity just playing defense. I have to show I'm one of the premier players on offense on the wing. So when it's that time, there's no question what type of player I am."


He says it all there, He can play Defense and Bring that Defensive intensity to any team that he is apart of, But his Frustration and mood Swings had to do allot with the system and How he views himself as a player, He feels he's on the level offensively like kobe and others, He just doesn't want to play Defense and post up in a structured flow. Pj or whoever you may think is the Better coach will have Ron right back To the style of play he Dreaded playing, This can be something to Really pay attention to.


Truthfully his game isn't built like a kobe Bryant or McGrady
 
VF21 said:
I think from the article above it's pretty clear things were never going to get better...

Owners yelling at Jason Hart on the court? That's just wrong. If they had no faith whatsoever in Adelman, they should have fired him at the beginning of the season. To undermine his authority by screaming instructions at a player is ... well, not something I would want.

And did you notice? Hart exercised his player option. I sure hope Coach Joe can help Jason improve his game.

I'm done even thinking about this now. Reading this article, the Maloofs are - IMHO - exactly like Dr. and Mrs. York. I'll love the team in spite of the owners.

I aggree but what scares me now is, What coach would want be here with owners looking over shoulder undermining him?
 
And that ^^ might actually give some potential candidates reason to think very carefully. It's never comfortable to know your boss is looking over your shoulder. To find out he's pretty much actively undermining your authority is really tough for some to deal with.

If, on the other hand, they get someone who's going to run to them with every little thing that happens, that won't be good either.

An NBA coach is paid MILLIONS to do a job. He isn't paid all that money to act as a talking puppet with an owner's arm up his... well, you get the idea.

;)
 
Well, on that front the only guys I would be worried about not being interested in the job would be the very guys I think we should be looking at unfortunately.

For an assistant coach someplace, and NBA job is such a rare opportunity that they are going to take it regardless of the strings. At least we have talent, meddling owners or not. And an egomaniac like Brown is thoroughly convinced the world revolves around him, and perfectly happy to take his money and run if things don't work out, so I doubt he even thinks twice. The guys who I WOULD be worried about a little would be the Stan Van Gundy types -- maybe already the victim of one power play, not wanting to get themselves into an awkward situation with delusional owners who apparently think we should have beaten the Spurs, and not wanting to be the fall guy.
 
VF21 said:
And that ^^ might actually give some potential candidates reason to think very carefully. It's never comfortable to know your boss is looking over your shoulder. To find out he's pretty much actively undermining your authority is really tough for some to deal with.

If, on the other hand, they get someone who's going to run to them with every little thing that happens, that won't be good either.

An NBA coach is paid MILLIONS to do a job. He isn't paid all that money to act as a talking puppet with an owner's arm up his... well, you get the idea.

;)

The Maloofs stated in multiple radio interviews last week that once the coach is hired they step back and the coach will select his crew and they will coach the team without any interferance from them as it has always been. The coach would report to Geoff Petrie on a regular basis per usual.

I'm sure the Maloofs will be making this point crystal clear in all interviews with potential head coaches.

Every owner has a right to know what's going on with their team, but every little move will not be under a magnifying glass. The Maloofs leave that to us and the media.
 
Bricklayer said:
Well, on that front the only guys I would be worried about not being interested in the job would be the very guys I think we should be looking at unfortunately.

Agreed.

I guess our only hope is that someone like SVG would be upfront about telling the Maloofs he won't work as their front man. If they want to call the shots, look elsewhere. AND get something in writing!! (I know it wouldn't get done, but I'm grasping as straws here...)

;)
 
DocHolliday said:
Every owner has a right to know what's going on with their team, but every little move will not be under a magnifying glass. The Maloofs leave that to us and the media.


Really? Or will they be jumping up and down on teh sidelines screaming at the new coach and his players if things aren't going their way? And if they fired the last one and are going to hire the new one, then it becoems increasingly clear that it will be the Maloofs, not Petrie, who gets to make the call on the new guy's fate.
 
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