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[drupal=59]Beat LA!!![/drupal]

The dreaded Lakers are in town and regardless of what a few individuals might think, this is big. This is Army-Navy, this is Federation-Klingons, this is the Hatfields and the McCoys. In fact, the standings are irrelevant. This is a RIVALRY.

The Lakers have rebuilt and reloaded and are looking like a good bet to make it deep into the WC playoffs. BUT it doesn't change the fact that the Kings seem to be able to step it up against better opponents and should be able to make a game of it.

It's not about the standings or the playoffs. It's about pride.

This is a game you have to experience to believe. Watching on TV is one way but actually being inside Arco Arena is something that cannot be defined. It is beyond description, it is beyond belief. It is an experience for a lifetime.

The PBP thread is here

The game discussion thread is here.

It's game day and it's the Lakers coming into Arco. The excitement is palpable and Arco should be rocking like the good old days.

Let's get ready for some Kings basketball!

GO KINGS!!!!
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I can honestly say I have the same regard for them that I had for the LA Rams and UCLA. And I hold them in almost the same esteem as Mark Cuban.

That clear it up for you?

;)
 
DirtyAcres said:
This is only a rivalry according to certain Kings fans. I think the Lakers would laugh at calling this a rivalry. This rivalry is dead.
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1. I couldn't possibly care less about the Lakers laughing at this ... or not.
2. If the rivalry is dead for you, fine. Then what the rest of us say couldn't possibly matter, could it?
3. The NBA seems to think it's a rivalry as they picked it as one of the games to feature in the advertising for ... get ready ... RIVALRY WEEK.

This argument is just silly. As I said, if you don't think there's a rivalry, no problem.
 
DirtyAcres said:
This is only a rivalry according to certain Kings fans. I think the Lakers would laugh at calling this a rivalry. This rivalry is dead.
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If Lakers fans don't consider this a rivalry, then why do so many go to the bother of popping out of the woodwork to deny a rivalry? We'd never see any Lakers fans posting here. (With a few exceptions...you know who you are. ;))

Anyway, as I said in another thread, I don't need a "rivalry" to hate the Lakers and want to beat them.
 
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The rivalry argument is spent already. Please do not bother to carry that on. Go back and search the word and you will find everyones opinion 3 or 4 times.


DIE LAKER SCUM!!!!!!!
 
As far as a rivalry goes, they had audio from Fisher on before the game on the radio saying that it was quite a rivalry, and he still gets chills walking into ARCO from it (IIRC).
 
Lets face it, we remember that Robert Horry shot in 2002 and the Lakers don't. We remember the 12 missed FT in the 7th game in 2002 and they don't. The Kings handed a championship to the Lakers, the didn't earn it. But no Laker or Laker fan will admit that.

No, the rivalry is one sided. But hey, who cares? The Kings need a rivalry as they never really had one with anyone else. Least of all their neighbors 75 miles down I-80. And if some KingsFans don't think it's a rivalry, fine, then as VF said, you won't mind if others of us view it as such. After all who else gets the team AND the fans riled up as much as the dreaded Lakers?

Last night we saw the Kings at their best for 3 quarters. Then in the 4th we saw why the Lakers are the best in the west and maybe the best overall. They had another gear in their truck, the Kings did not. Simple, basic and reality. Loved watching the game until 4:01 left in the 4th when we over here knew the game was over.
 
looks like the kings were hanging on then bam, back to business for the 1st place lakers. im actually glad sacramento lost this game. maybe now some of us will have enough sense to not stir the pot. we're not better than they are and havent been for years. im sure this board was swarming with laker pals afterwards. i wonder if thats the reason this site was shut down for a while. :rolleyes:. i would love to think kingsfans including myself know it all, but you know what..we dont. finish the season, shut our traps (let go of the beat L.A crap) be as humble as possible and pray we end the season with class and effort.
 
If the rivalry was onesided, than how come ARCO was filled with faker fans last night? that doesn't seem onesided to me.
 
DirtyAcres said:
This is only a rivalry according to certain Kings fans. I think the Lakers would laugh at calling this a rivalry. This rivalry is dead.
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I was at the contest last night (my third at Arco this season) and all I can say is 17,000 plus fans (including a few hundred Laker fans in attendance) don't think it's a dead rivalry. Maybe not like it once was, but definitely not dead. Screaming fans were into it right from the tip and no doubt helped keep Kings players motivated to leave it all out on the court.

A few memorable moments:

Early on and throughout Kings fans were all over Kobe with yells in his ear like, "Kobe, think Colorado!" "Kobe scum!" "Kobe sucks!" ...and worse, but this is a family forum:)!

Ron Artest was his usual highly intense self and I loved how he simply kept Bryant from getting tons of early touches by blanketing him tour de force. Unfortunately, by the 4th period he was so much in his face that #24 got to the basket more and more with super quick moves and inadequate defensive help.

I thought Gasol was very big (no pun) all night for LA and without him the Kings probably would have won. Makes you wonder just how good Lakers will be when Bynum returns:eek:

John Salmons seemed very inspired off the bench for a change. His 17 pts was desperately needed and just about the only Kings reserve of note. Anthony Johnson is not an adequate back up for Beno IMO - I'd rather see Douby more just to find out if he can ever play PG. But I understand why Coach Theus went with AJ instead of Q who might be better suited on some other night - with lots less pressure.

All in all, a fun night - got my moneys worth. Expected the Kings to play hard, and they did. Expected the Lakers to probably pull it out - and they did. Now beat the Clips tonight and later get ready for 3 more tilts this season with those Laker bums!
 
several hundred laker fans were there im sure. dont confuse rivalry with just pure hatred. they where just there supporting their team.
 
In the minds of long term Kings fans, the feeling of disdain for the Lakers remains and will probably never go away.

But I don't think the present day teams and players buy into the rivalry thing.
 
VF21 said:
3. The NBA seems to think it's a rivalry as they picked it as one of the games to feature in the advertising for ... get ready ... RIVALRY WEEK.
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ding ding ding! cripes, i don't understand how this is still an argument, if the NBA is emphasizing it as a rivalry.
 
tyrant said:
several hundred laker fans were there im sure. dont confuse rivalry with just pure hatred. they where just there supporting their team.
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Uh huh, and that's why Laker fans bother to register here and pop up all over when it's game time with the Kings. :rolleyes:

You just don't get it and never will, obviously. Why do you feel such a desperate need to change other people's minds? I certainly don't care whether you think it's a real "rivalry" or don't feel as passionate about beating that team from SoCal.

Just out of curiousity, do you think Red Sox fans shouldn't have felt they had a "real" rivalry for all the many, many years when they sucked and were not competitive with NY? Would you try and convince a Boston fan there was no rivalry at all and they had no reason to hate the NY? Good luck with that.
 
venom_7 said:
it was more than several hundred. i'd say about a third of the arena was laker fans
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That would put LA fans at multiple thousands. If that's true, they were mostly quiet 5,000-6,000 compared to the 10,000 plus Kings fans who continuously drowned them out. I was in 220 and there were only a small handful of obvious Laker supporters or their gear wearing fans in that entire section or right below in 120. I said hundreds or maybe a thousand or so because that's what it seemed like all there was. I'm very hoarse this morning from all my yelling and cheering!
 
PurpleHaze said:
That would put LA fans at multiple thousands. If that's true, they were mostly quiet 5,000-6,000 compared to the 10,000 plus Kings fans who continuously drowned them out. I was in 220 and there were only a small handful of obvious Laker supporters or their gear wearing fans in that entire section or right below in 120. I said hundreds or maybe a thousand or so because that's what it seemed like all there was. I'm very hoarse this morning from all my yelling and cheering!
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Watched the game on TV -- there was nothing quiet about the Lakers fans, and there must have been thousands. The cheering on made Lakers shots, MVP chants, "Luuuke" chants etc. were all quite loud. Sounded like there were more Kings fans there to drown them out, but it was not a wipeout fanwise. If you told me a 2-1 Kings fan/Lakers ratio that would have sounded about right based on sound alone (obviously I was not taking a census, just listening to the cheers).
 
kennadog said:
Uh huh, and that's why Laker fans bother to register here and pop up all over when it's game time with the Kings. :rolleyes:

You just don't get it and never will, obviously. Why do you feel such a desperate need to change other people's minds? I certainly don't care whether you think it's a real "rivalry" or don't feel as passionate about beating that team from SoCal.

Just out of curiousity, do you think Red Sox fans shouldn't have felt they had a "real" rivalry for all the many, many years when they sucked and were not competitive with NY? Would you try and convince a Boston fan there was no rivalry at all and they had no reason to hate the NY? Good luck with that.
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i hate baseball and i dont care. all i know is the redsox did win a world series. im not trying to change anyones mind. im just jabbering on about my opinion. for $10 ill buy yours.

im not the one that doesnt have a clue. some posters here get it. but the majority of this board does not get it.
 
Wuster said:
In the minds of long term Kings fans, the feeling of disdain for the Lakers remains and will probably never go away.

But I don't think the present day teams and players buy into the rivalry thing.
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They don't buy into it because the players are different, except for Bryant, Fisher, Walton, & Miller. They can't be expected to feel the intensity of 2000-03 because they weren't there. The rivalry exists only with the memory of the fans now.
 
Oscar said:
They don't buy into it because the players are different, except for Bryant, Fisher, Walton, & Miller. They can't be expected to feel the intensity of 2000-03 because they weren't there. The rivalry exists only with the memory of the fans now.
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kings fans
 
I think sometimes sounds projected to the TV viewer is different than if you're actually at the game, seeing, hearing, getting the entire big picture. Clearly TV and radio microphones are mostly at or near press row so that might make it seem like Laker fans in that area (and no doubt lots of them paid the big bucks to be in those sections) were taking over Arco Arena. I still think Kings fans cheers, yelling, call outs, dominated throughout the game 10-1. I was there, that's my story, and I'm sticking to it:)
 
PurpleHaze said:
That would put LA fans at multiple thousands. If that's true, they were mostly quiet 5,000-6,000 compared to the 10,000 plus Kings fans who continuously drowned them out. I was in 220 and there were only a small handful of obvious Laker supporters or their gear wearing fans in that entire section or right below in 120. I said hundreds or maybe a thousand or so because that's what it seemed like all there was. I'm very hoarse this morning from all my yelling and cheering!
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I was in Section 218 and I think there were just as many Kings fans as Laker fans. They were just as LOUD as the Kings fans.
 
Rockmeister said:
I was in Section 218 and I think there were just as many Kings fans as Laker fans. They were just as LOUD as the Kings fans.
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Yeah, from what I saw on TV they were pretty obnoxiously loud, as always. Kings fans and Laker fans are two different breeds, for sure. I respect the Laker fans that have been there since the 70's/80's(Hoopsie in the house!!:D), but the Kobe Bryant era Laker fans are definitely um...different, I guess would be the right word...in an annoying sort of way. Winning brings brash cockyness, and the LA area has had PLENTY of winning lately, with all of their teams(well, except for the Kings of the NHL, but they had 'The Great One', so thats a reason to boast*L*) Anyway, we Kings fans will NEVER know what its like to win as much as LA has, but that's life, I guess.:)
 
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