Are we going to acknowledge how bad Huerter has been?

So if he hits one more three last night is he good again? Small sample size man. I think people are going to respect your opinion more on this if you check back in 10 games with a more nuanced critique.
Funnily enough, he's doing everything so well that people complain about him mostly for; defense is great, rebounding is great, passing is great.

4th on the team in APG
3rd!! on the team in RPG
He has 2 turnovers total this season

Once the shooting regresses back to normal, he'll be on pace for another career season if he can hold these ancillary stats up
 
Here's the thing with Kevin Huerter: if he continues to give effort as a defender and rebounder and rounds back into form as a shooter, who are the Kings going to acquire that's a better fit than Huerter in the starting unit? His frenetic off-ball activity and the gravity he can create in the two-man game with Domas is not insignificant, even when he's failing to hit shots.

Or we could think of it this way: is there a greater likelihood that Huerter plays up to his median as a shooter or that the Kings are able to find a replacement that generates even half as much gravity for the Kings' offense?
 
Here's the thing with Kevin Huerter: if he continues to give effort as a defender and rebounder and rounds back into form as a shooter, who are the Kings going to acquire that's a better fit than Huerter in the starting unit? His frenetic off-ball activity and the gravity he can create in the two-man game with Domas is not insignificant, even when he's failing to hit shots.

Or we could think of it this way: is there a greater likelihood that Huerter plays up to his median as a shooter or that the Kings are able to find a replacement that generates even half as much gravity for the Kings' offense?
He’s on a great contract also. WHEN his shot returns this season (which it clearly will eventually) if he continues to play this current all around play he is one of our best trade chips for an upgrade for a wing 3 and d stopper as well.
 
Funnily enough, he's doing everything so well that people complain about him mostly for; defense is great, rebounding is great, passing is great.

4th on the team in APG
3rd!! on the team in RPG
He has 2 turnovers total this season

Once the shooting regresses back to normal, he'll be on pace for another career season if he can hold these ancillary stats up
We've got to wonder if Brown demanding more defense and physicality from his players is effecting Huerter's 3 point shooting. Especially since he has the added pressure knowing that he and Barnes are the only potentially interchangeable pieces on the starting 5.

Huerter has definitely answered Brown's call for more defense and physicality, let's hope his shot returns to form once he settles into this change in physicality.
 
We've got to wonder if Brown demanding more defense and physicality from his players is effecting Huerter's 3 point shooting. Especially since he has the added pressure knowing that he and Barnes are the only potentially interchangeable pieces on the starting 5.

Huerter has definitely answered Brown's call for more defense and physicality, let's hope his shot returns to form once he settles into this change in physicality.
Because he is expending too much energy on defense or another reason?

I think Kevin is just a bit too sensitive to the outside opinions about his play. I think he is feeling the pressure of underperforming and its in his head as much as anything else. He needs to keep up the improved D, and keep moving and cutting on offense. I think he will be fine in a couple weeks.
 
Here's the thing with Kevin Huerter: if he continues to give effort as a defender and rebounder and rounds back into form as a shooter, who are the Kings going to acquire that's a better fit than Huerter in the starting unit? His frenetic off-ball activity and the gravity he can create in the two-man game with Domas is not insignificant, even when he's failing to hit shots.

Or we could think of it this way: is there a greater likelihood that Huerter plays up to his median as a shooter or that the Kings are able to find a replacement that generates even half as much gravity for the Kings' offense?
Yeah, people obviously weren't watching the Warriors game. Or they've just decided Huerter is trash so they don't give him the credit he deserves for everything he brings to the offense. The Huerter-Domas 2-man game was pretty much the only consistent half-court set that was working, especially with Keegan struggling so much with his shot. I'd have to imagine the PPP on those plays were extremely good. And they worked in a few different movements where it wasn't just Huerter coming off the DHO and pulling, but him being a playmaker and getting Domas a few easy baskets and he got a lay-up of his own on a give and go from Domas.

I say all this, but Huerter is pretty obviously the most "moveable" guy of our current core. Fox/Keegan/Domas aren't going anywhere and I venture to say that Monk is probably long-term core too. Best friends with Fox and I think he's a pretty important part of our chemistry off the floor. And obviously our glass cannon offensive stud off the bench. Colby Jones has been exciting to see early on, but we need to see a lot more before just turning the job over to him. And you certainly don't sell Huerter for 30 cents on the dollar
 
Because he is expending too much energy on defense or another reason?

I think Kevin is just a bit too sensitive to the outside opinions about his play. I think he is feeling the pressure of underperforming and its in his head as much as anything else. He needs to keep up the improved D, and keep moving and cutting on offense. I think he will be fine in a couple weeks.
Why do you think he's too sensitive about outside opinions? He doesn't need to hear the opinions of others to be fully aware that he has shot poorly and inconsistently for quite some time now.
 

kingsboi

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We've got to wonder if Brown demanding more defense and physicality from his players is effecting Huerter's 3 point shooting. Especially since he has the added pressure knowing that he and Barnes are the only potentially interchangeable pieces on the starting 5.

Huerter has definitely answered Brown's call for more defense and physicality, let's hope his shot returns to form once he settles into this change in physicality.
what's effecting Huerter is that hitch shot that sometimes drops and other times doesn't which leads to inconsistency and its hard to rely on it for long stretches so you just hope when the games matter the most, it starts dropping
 
He’s on a great contract also. WHEN his shot returns this season (which it clearly will eventually) if he continues to play this current all around play he is one of our best trade chips for an upgrade for a wing 3 and d stopper as well.
Why would you trade him if his shots return and he keeps the all-around play? Wouldn't be that an upgrade we've been looking for?
Or else any decent defensive wing 3 upgrade will cost a fortune and our depth. Our depth is what keeps the juice flowing.
 
Why would you trade him if his shots return and he keeps the all-around play? Wouldn't be that an upgrade we've been looking for?
Or else any decent defensive wing 3 upgrade will cost a fortune and our depth. Our depth is what keeps the juice flowing.
You might do that, if not convinced that you are a contender with Huerter playing well in the regular season
 
Why would you trade him if his shots return and he keeps the all-around play? Wouldn't be that an upgrade we've been looking for?
Or else any decent defensive wing 3 upgrade will cost a fortune and our depth. Our depth is what keeps the juice flowing.
To me, it seems like the current core is solid, but not really contender level IMO. Not unless Keegan takes a major step forward and becomes a consistent 2nd/3rd option and gets to a borderline all star level.

It just seems like for the team to take a bigger step forward, there has to be an upgrade to Huerter or Barnes or both. They’re obviously both solid players, but if the Kings can somehow swing a trade to get in a two-way stud at the 2 or 3 spot, that’s how we’re going to get to the next level. Huerter seems like probably the easiest spot to upgrade at this point.
 
To me, it seems like the current core is solid, but not really contender level IMO. Not unless Keegan takes a major step forward and becomes a consistent 2nd/3rd option and gets to a borderline all star level.

It just seems like for the team to take a bigger step forward, there has to be an upgrade to Huerter or Barnes or both. They’re obviously both solid players, but if the Kings can somehow swing a trade to get in a two-way stud at the 2 or 3 spot, that’s how we’re going to get to the next level. Huerter seems like probably the easiest spot to upgrade at this point.
Don’t disagree - but “easiest” doesn’t mean easy in this context.
 

Kingster

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I think the idea that Heurter has been "great" on defense is a tad hyperbolic. Yes, of late he's made some good plays on defense, which I applaud. (His forceful block of AD's jump shot in the Laker game was fantastic). But he's starting from a very low baseline and I want to see more for an extended period of time before I award him with the "great" accolade. I'm not the only one that needs convincing. If Brown was really convinced of Heurter's defensive greatness then I think he would have been confident enough to have him defend Klay Thompson on his last second shot, not the 6'0" Mitchell.
 
The main problem is not Huerter... I feel it is that the Kings did not upgrade on Harrison Barnes. It's the position of weakness on the team that needs to be addressed first.
 
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McGee’s comments about physicality are telling:

“It’s not a hard adjustment at all. If you got it, you got it. You’ve got to f---ing step it up. We’re grown men at that, and we’re going against grown men. Some people don’t have it, but they can get it. You just got to work on it. I feel like in practice, we can work at it, and I feel like we can light some fires under some guys’ asses also.”
 
I just looked at Hueters season vs. playoff stats. Every year they go down in the playoffs.

*incoming "the playoffs are for the star players and they take his touches" comments*

Ok then he's not an elite shooter/star and is replaceable.

I'll take 8 points every night, over 16 points every-other night, or 24 points every 3rd or fourth game. 24 points every 3rd or 4th game didnt get TD a new contract and he wasn't even getting guaranteed minutes, let alone starting, when he was.
 
Huerter actually did well tonight. One of those games where he went off. I hope he stay consistent, that's the main thing. He did well on one game and then drop off the next. On the other hand, Duarte hasn't been great so far. I thought he would play great D...but he's been off on that area as well. If he keeps playing like this, he'll get replace once Trey Lyle comes back.
 

gunks

Hall of Famer
If HB doesn’t step up soon, one of Sasha and a returning Lyles gonna take his minutes and his starting spot.

I think Duarte has lost his opportunity. I think Brown is going to turn to Keon and Colby Jones to take his minutes.
Man I hope so. I knew it would be like this when we resigned HB.

Mr. Invisible aside from the one game in ten against weak competition when he goes off and gets people saying "see? He could do that every game!"

He might actually be useful off the bench where he could score on lesser opponents to his hearts content.... or continue to coast and it shouldn't matter as much.