Any more moves?
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as of right now i don't think nothing is going to happen but at the nba's trade deadline somewhere after all star break we could see something happen, i think mike will come back strong this season and ron will have a good year to, enough to spark the interest of other teams in need of filling a particular position.
For some reason I see the only person worth a trade possibility is SARs. He's got some value for teams with no low post offensive threat. Plus we could trade him for some small expiring contracts and maybe a 2nd round pick. Bottom line though, GP better not trade Artest or Bibby until just before the deadline. Believe me, their value will go way up at mid season when teams will be trying to get over the hump of being a playoff team to contender status. Either Bibby or Artest could push a team over the hump even if it costs them talent and money to do so. Future talent is worthless to a team that wants to win it all this season.
Nope. I think Kings roster for training camp is set plus the few extras that will be invited with vague outside chance to last more than few weeks. With the emergence of Cisco as future floor leader and excellent ball handler, and progress of Douby plus pure PG in Shakur, rookie tho' he is, Bibbs could get real pushed for playing time. So his trade value can be increased if the kids prove out and push him early on but see any trade for him coming Nov-Dec maybe.
SG is set for next 5 years with Kev plus Cisco, Salmons
SF is Ron Ron plus Cisco, and my outside dark horse Caner-Medley (kid can shoot and score from anywhere and is a banger!!!)
PF is up for grabs but with new JWill, Watkins and Mikki we could be better.
C is set with new Brad, Mikki and future Hawes
SG is set for next 5 years with Kev plus Cisco, Salmons
SF is Ron Ron plus Cisco, and my outside dark horse Caner-Medley (kid can shoot and score from anywhere and is a banger!!!)
PF is up for grabs but with new JWill, Watkins and Mikki we could be better.
C is set with new Brad, Mikki and future Hawes
No trades. Petrie's feet have fallen asleep from resting on the desk for too long. I think the drama going forward is going to be centered around Theus and what he is really going to do as opposed to what he says he's going to do, or what we all hope and wish he's going to do. But as far as trades, we're going to hear the words, "midseason trade" a lot this year. Just like we did last year.
Petrie hasn't put up his feet on his desk cause he's lazy. He has because this is the team that he is planning on having until at least just before the deadline. Stop thinking about blockbuster trades. We won't get one and we don't NEED one. We've got great players, we just need a great coach and little luck with our young players.
There is absolutely no reason that this team as it stands could not make it to the playoffs this season.
There is absolutely no reason that this team as it stands could not make it to the playoffs this season.
I know people have said this too...and some have even said they've seen him running
, but I still will keep my expectations very low with Brad until I see proof that he's REALLY improved as much as people have said...after all, Reggie did pretty much call him 'fat' in a few creative words when he was hired. I dont know...maybe Brad can really establish himself again in our offense, and let Moore do the dirty work down low(even though that's not really his forte)...and who knows how much, and what, we'll see from Hawes this year, but we'll just have to see, I guess. The prospects of a 39-43 record are in place...welcome back to 1995!
, but I still will keep my expectations very low with Brad until I see proof that he's REALLY improved as much as people have said...after all, Reggie did pretty much call him 'fat' in a few creative words when he was hired. I dont know...maybe Brad can really establish himself again in our offense, and let Moore do the dirty work down low(even though that's not really his forte)...and who knows how much, and what, we'll see from Hawes this year, but we'll just have to see, I guess. The prospects of a 39-43 record are in place...welcome back to 1995!
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The photoshop to lead off my Geoff Petrie has jumped the shark thread is about 3/4 done now. Just a few more weeks and its gonna look sharp.
Typically I'm not a plaintiff's lawyer, but I have been thinking of approaching the Maloofs to see if I can convince them to sue Geoff for embezzlement -- he sucks down millions of dollars a year and doesn't actually do anything for the honor. Best job in America.
Typically I'm not a plaintiff's lawyer, but I have been thinking of approaching the Maloofs to see if I can convince them to sue Geoff for embezzlement -- he sucks down millions of dollars a year and doesn't actually do anything for the honor. Best job in America.
I don't think there is anything out there for Petrie to do. The Cavs didn't pull the trigger for Gooden-for-Bibbs. To GP's credit he is not doing something for the sake of doing something. There really isn't anything out there we want nor anyone out there beating on our door for KT or SAR (except screaming "let me out, let me outta here"). I don't think anything needs to be done now until we see what we really have and what the bench can do. In the early days of Jon Barry "The Bench Mob" won more than a few games on their own when the starters didn't get it done. In the last 3-4 years the bench hasn't won a game I can remember. Soooo, like it or not, we wait and see.
Jump the shark...
It was done first on Happy Days, when Fonzi (leather jacket and all) was on water skis on vacation (in Hawaii?) and performed a difficult stunt by jumping over a tank with a shark in it.
It's come to refer to the moment in time when a TV show reaches its peak and starts to lose momentum. For example, a lot of people think Henry's death in M.A.S.H. was the Jump the Shark moment even though the series continued on for quite a while.
At www.jumptheshark.com you can actually read about the episodes of various shows...
It was done first on Happy Days, when Fonzi (leather jacket and all) was on water skis on vacation (in Hawaii?) and performed a difficult stunt by jumping over a tank with a shark in it.
It's come to refer to the moment in time when a TV show reaches its peak and starts to lose momentum. For example, a lot of people think Henry's death in M.A.S.H. was the Jump the Shark moment even though the series continued on for quite a while.
At www.jumptheshark.com you can actually read about the episodes of various shows...
I'm just ready for things to get started. I really want to see how everybody will perform for Theus. I hope that last season embarassed them enough to make changes this year. Guys like Bibby and Miller have not been on losing teams for a long time. Hopefully, they have been inspired to get it together again. SAR has got to be tired of losing by now. The only thing that I am still crossing my fingers to happen BEFORE the season is that we buy out Thomas. I would rather pay him to stay home than pay him to sit on the bench and pout!
I think that we will have more midseason trades, even though I HATE them!
I think that we will have more midseason trades, even though I HATE them!
I totally agree. Case in point: Adonal Foyle on the Warriors got bought out for less than 70% of his agreed-upon salary. I think that was a win for everyone; Foyle can try to shine for Orlando now, the agent gets money, and the Warriors got a LOT of cap room.
One would hope the Maloofs would look at that and appeal to KT's conscience to make a similar deal. KT should sit on the bench with Sac; shouldn't that embarrass him enough to where he decides to take a buyout? I hope so.
Unfortunately, I don't expect it.
Earlier, people were saying that if teams wanted Artest, Petrie would insist they must take KT in the deal, with the logic being that if the Kings were getting little for Artest, they must also accept a negative in with the deal.
Unfortunately, I think most teams would interpret this as having BOTH headlights destroyed in the minor crash you just had in your Mercedes, instead of just one of them.
That's why I strongly urge patience with the Kings for the next 1-2 seasons. I seriously think teams will look at the terms of Bibby's contract (he's their most easily traded player, I think), and decide it's not worth it. It's the OTHER teams that are saying, "Okay, but in addition to our promising third-year player, you also have to take Adonal Foyle."
We really have to consider that other teams do not want the contracts of Miller, Bibby, KT, SAR and Artest. So I think the Kings are stuck with them.
I really disliked Mighty Mouse, but he might not have been the team's biggest problem last year.
Signing Martin was a good idea, but how does that change the team?
And, sorry, but I don't see much difference between Hawes and Todd Fuller. I fear they'll have similar "careers."
One would hope the Maloofs would look at that and appeal to KT's conscience to make a similar deal. KT should sit on the bench with Sac; shouldn't that embarrass him enough to where he decides to take a buyout? I hope so.
Unfortunately, I don't expect it.
Earlier, people were saying that if teams wanted Artest, Petrie would insist they must take KT in the deal, with the logic being that if the Kings were getting little for Artest, they must also accept a negative in with the deal.
Unfortunately, I think most teams would interpret this as having BOTH headlights destroyed in the minor crash you just had in your Mercedes, instead of just one of them.
That's why I strongly urge patience with the Kings for the next 1-2 seasons. I seriously think teams will look at the terms of Bibby's contract (he's their most easily traded player, I think), and decide it's not worth it. It's the OTHER teams that are saying, "Okay, but in addition to our promising third-year player, you also have to take Adonal Foyle."
We really have to consider that other teams do not want the contracts of Miller, Bibby, KT, SAR and Artest. So I think the Kings are stuck with them.
I really disliked Mighty Mouse, but he might not have been the team's biggest problem last year.
Signing Martin was a good idea, but how does that change the team?
And, sorry, but I don't see much difference between Hawes and Todd Fuller. I fear they'll have similar "careers."
Foyle didn't play for awhile before he agreed to the buy-out. That makes the decision easier. And considering he signed a new deal pretty soon afterwards, it looks like he made the right decision. Maybe after next season Kenny will be more cooperative if he rides the bench all year. It's really up to the front office and the coaching staff to decide who's in the future and who's not, who should get playing time and who should not. We'll see what they have in mind when the season starts. The proof is in the pudding, as they say, or in this case in the minutes.
PS - Doesn't Damon Stoudamire already have claim to the "Mighty Mouse" nickname?
PS - Doesn't Damon Stoudamire already have claim to the "Mighty Mouse" nickname?
Wow!!! Could not disagree more! Hawes as a Frosh has much more offensive game and movements and quickness than Fuller ever had. Fuller was a big load in the middle and was a very, very dumm choice of the Warriors (??). He wasn't any good in beginning or end.
So far, Petrie has not made any dumm choices for Kings in first round and has far more suprise winners than Warriors have had over same 12 years. When Hawes can get a defensive game in NBA he can be around for a long while and contribute big time. Wait and see.
So far, Petrie has not made any dumm choices for Kings in first round and has far more suprise winners than Warriors have had over same 12 years. When Hawes can get a defensive game in NBA he can be around for a long while and contribute big time. Wait and see.