Another shot at Kenyon Martin

[NoBonus]

Here is another shot at Kenyon Martin. Say we trade Miller and Thomas + filler (Hart, Potatohead, etc) to Denver and a third, still undetermined team for Kenyon Martin and a low-paid center. Can anyone else help me figure out how this scenario could go down?

I think there is a possibility of Denver wanting to move Kenyon Martin and his big contract so badly that they would take on KT's contract if he came with a more valuable player.

Ideas?

 

[Kings113]

Nay to Kay Mart.

But, to help, Nuggets need a proven shooter so badly.

 

[Bricklayer]

There is a damn good reason why Denver wants to move Kenyon's contract.


Why would we try to dump Kenny's bad contract only to get an even worse one in return?

 

[Sac.Kings]

Nay to Kay Mart.

But, to help, Nuggets need a proven shooter so badly.

They must be the worst perimeter shooting team in the league. It is disgusting to see them shoot. Their fans go crazy when they hit a three...Maybe they should go after Peja, it would be a good choice. Denver is loaded down low and Peja would have open looks a lot of the times.

 

[Kings113]

Peja at SG though? Maybe, but I was thinking more Q-Rich or Jamal Crawford or Rasual Butler.

 

[Entity]

There is a damn good reason why Denver wants to move Kenyon's contract.


Why would we try to dump Kenny's bad contract only to get an even worse one in return?

true it is a worse contract but alot better player. err was a better player i am scared of the knees. knees scare me. Nene has bad knees as well.

 

[Sac.Kings]

Kenyon martin isn't the player he once was (you can't tell by looking at his contract though). He is getting older and his knees are a cause for concern. He doesn't seem like much of a team player or a good teammate(see "getting suspended in the first round") His contract is too big for a player like him.

 

[Kings113]

Nene has a torn ACL, not bad knees.

 

[chelle]

I do not want Kenyon Martin.

 

[Gary]

No way. I would rather have KT than K-Mart.

 

[Kev.in]

I'll take Kenny's 13 and 8 over Kenyon's 13 and 8 any day.

 

[D-Mass]

K-Mart is, or was, WAY overrated.

 

[King4Life]

According to the Rise guys, the Kenyon Martin/George Karl fight was because K-Mart didn't want to pass the ball to Andre Miller due to problems they have on the court. No way should the Kings sign a guy like that. His contract is bad enough.

 

[LPKingsFan]

All too easy...

Bad contract? Bad attitude? Match made for NY...

New York Trade Breakdown
Outgoing

Jerome James
7-1 C from Florida A&M
3.0 ppg, 2.0 rpg, 0.3 apg in 9.0 minutes

Quentin Richardson
6-6 SG from DePaul
8.2 ppg, 4.2 rpg, 1.6 apg in 26.2 minutes
Incoming

Kenyon Martin
6-9 PF from Cincinnati
12.9 ppg, 6.3 rpg, 1.4 apg in 27.6 minutes
Change in team outlook: +1.7 ppg, +0.1 rpg, and -0.5 apg.

Denver Trade Breakdown
Outgoing

Kenyon Martin
6-9 PF from Cincinnati
12.9 ppg, 6.3 rpg, 1.4 apg in 27.6 minutes
Incoming

Jerome James
7-1 C from Florida A&M
3.0 ppg, 2.0 rpg, 0.3 apg in 9.0 minutes

Quentin Richardson
6-6 SG from DePaul
8.2 ppg, 4.2 rpg, 1.6 apg in 26.2 minutes
Change in team outlook: -1.7 ppg, -0.1 rpg, and +0.5 apg.


Successful Scenario
Due to New York and Denver being over the cap, the 25% trade rule is invoked. New York and Denver had to be no more than 125% plus $100,000 of the salary given out for the trade to be accepted, which did happen here. This trade satisfies the provisions of the Collective Bargaining Agreement.

 

[Warhawk]

How many K-marts fo you want on one team?

I say one is enough.

 

[Packt]

Contract worht 91 million, and still due 81 million of that, for a guy with no offense and above average defense.

KT puts up similar numbers and makes half of what Kenyon makes. KT is overpaid, but Kenyon is... thankfully a Nugget. A role player making superstar money.

 

[BMiller52]

I like getting him but nobody else does. People just believe that he's overrated(by who?), overpaid(yes), only a dunker(WRONG), has no jumpshot(WRONG), has no post moves(wrong, he has a jump hook), bad rebounder(not really, not a great rebounder though), bad defender(this is very wrong he's a really good defender) because they hear it. It's garbage but people believe it anyway. The last time he played a lot he averaged like 17/8. His knee will heal up. He's a MUCH more effective player than Kenny Thomas.

I'd think we could get him for Kenny and Potapenko just because his value is so low but that's only if Denver doesn't re-sign Nene.

 

[atxrocker]

i am something of a martin fan and would have to say hell no this deal. i dont think kenyon would succeed here and i think giving up miller and thomas is WAY to much for him. there are times when his flashes of talent impress the hell out of me but his denver stint has really been unimpressive. im not sure what is playing into it but i dont see the guy making strides in sac. he can be explosive and sometimes very effective in the paint but the risk far outweighs the advantages here imo.

 

[atxrocker]

K-Mart is, or was, WAY overrated.

his play lately would prompt me to agree.. i used to think martin was underrated with some of his previous efforts in other seasons.. i suppose his play in the west and lack of hunger have exposed his desire.

 

[walker60]

I've always thought Kenyon Martin was overrated, even when he was with the Nets. But now, I think he's so overrated that he's actually a little bit underrated. Haha, does that make any sense? I still wouldn't want him tho...

 

[LPKingsFan]

Would never do it if Miller was included. Would at least think about a KT/Potapenko for K-Mart/#49 deal. But there's a lot of factors that would make me cringe, and end up passing.

BMiller, I tend to agree that K-Mart is more than a Kenny Thomas because he showed signs of becoming a good defender and shotblocker in NJ. But 17/8 is not exacly what we need from the PF, considering that Bibby, Bonzi, Ron and Brad will all be looking to score too. What we need is 8/10/3 blks. Where's the next Ben Wallace?

 

[BMiller52]

Would never do it if Miller was included. Would at least think about a KT/Potapenko for K-Mart/#49 deal. But there's a lot of factors that would make me cringe, and end up passing.

BMiller, I tend to agree that K-Mart is more than a Kenny Thomas because he showed signs of becoming a good defender and shotblocker in NJ. But 17/8 is not exacly what we need from the PF, considering that Bibby, Bonzi, Ron and Brad will all be looking to score too. What we need is 8/10/3 blks. Where's the next Ben Wallace?

In the draft and he goes by the name of Tyrus Thomas... Only he has an offensive game too.

 

[atxrocker]

In the draft and he goes by the name of Tyrus Thomas... Only he has an offensive game too.

tyrus... now there is a guy i would love to get in a kings uni.

 

[moradi420]

how could u rather have kt than kenyon martin, kt wines about coming off the bench when sar is clearly the better player, so kenyon would probably do the same except hes better than kt and its arguable that he better than sar, even though sar has better carrier numbers and did it without j-kidd one of the top point guards. overall no to kenyon becuause of salary, but kenyon, ron, and (old school) brad would be a mean frontline that not many would want to run into.

 

[VF21]

overall no to kenyon becuause of salary, but kenyon, ron, and (old school) brad would be a mean frontline that not many would want to run into.

At one time, maybe. But I've become more and more UNIMPRESSED with Kenyon Martin to the point where adding him to the team could, IMHO, end up being a pretty big step backwards.

 

[Rome]

I doubt Geoff even thinks about getting Kenyon Martin. I mean why would he trade Webb who had a bad knee and 2 years later get another PF who has been injured + cancer to the team + not as good as Webb talent wise. Doesn't make sense to me.

 

[AriesMar27]

if we included thomas in th trade, had a faster center and then traded reef for earl watson.... maybe.... if musselman wants to run then martin would be a nice pick up.... if we also had a center that could run with the team....

but then again martin is injury prone with a huge contract...