And It Begins....Pelicans About to Talk to Tyreke Evans

[Mass]

I'm not really worried about this Tyreke saga. I don't care about the Pelicans, or the other 16 teams interested in him. First of all, there aren't 17 teams with the cap space to sign him. Then, most important thing, he is a RESTRICTED free agent, So, at the end, it will be on our FO to make the final decision. It's not up to him, or the other teams. This will be a decision made by our FO. If they want to keep him, they'll match. If they believe the offer will be too high, they won't.
I also believe the "big offer" is not as big as we might think. I don't see other teams throwing 12-13 M to Tyreke, for guard who won't be their first option. What they think it's big may not look so big to us. Then, like I said, if someone goes crazy and puts max money on the table, I'd say bye bye Tyreke and good luck. But I don't think this will be the case.
I bet my dollar on Tyreke staying, and his contract will be around 10 M.

 

[Chupacabra]

Im almost positive that SOMEONE will offer Tyreke a max contract and i dont think our FO will let him walk just because hey dont want to go up another 3-4 million per year above what they would otherwise pay him. Thats a REALLY big piece to lose over a 3-4 million dollar discrepancy. Not only that but theres more value in matching a max contract offer for Evans than there is in letting him walk. If the FO gets buyers remorse they can turn Evans into a valuable trading chip. I think its likely Evans will be on the roster next season.

 

[lwc]

Im almost positive that SOMEONE will offer Tyreke a max contract and i dont think our FO will let him walk just because hey dont want to go up another 3-4 million per year above what they would otherwise pay him. Thats a REALLY big piece to lose over a 3-4 million dollar discrepancy. Not only that but theres more value in matching a max contract offer for Evans than there is in letting him walk. If the FO gets buyers remorse they can turn Evans into a valuable trading chip. I think its likely Evans will be on the roster next season.

My only fear in Maxing Tyreke is that if you max him out, do you have owners willing to do the same later for Cuz?

 

[Mass]

Well, we'll see in the next days. Right now it's just speculations, and everybody has his own opinion. Like I said, I don't think anybody will give him a max contract, but I understand people who think someone will.

 

[Flopi]

I don't know this source but....

@whatelvirosaid 14 min
The New Orleans Pelicans are reportedly making Tyreke Evans a large offer, starting at $11,378,284.

 

[Entity]

Well that is large. That would hurt pretty bad. To pay that you better be damn sure thats what you want going foward. FO needs to make sure.

 

[Flopi]

I don't know this source but....
@whatelvirosaid 14 min
The New Orleans Pelicans are reportedly making Tyreke Evans a large offer, starting at $11,378,284.

Well apparently, it is NOT a reliable source. Just some fan...

 

[Mass]

Still in the range I'd match without hesitation.

 

[Sac.Kings]

Still in the range I'd match without hesitation.

I would as well. It might scare off some of the teams after Tyreke if we match the Pelicans offer immediately. Tyreke come back to Sacramento!

 

[Bricklayer]

I would as well. It might scare off some of the teams after Tyreke if we match the Pelicans offer immediately. Tyreke come back to Sacramento!

Well, in order to match, we need Reke to take the offer. And once he does that if we match its over, we keep him. Nobody else gets a shot.

 

[Sac.Kings]

Well, in order to match, we need Reke to take the offer. And once he does that if we match its over, we keep him. Nobody else gets a shot.

Naturally, that is the process after all. Hard to match when no one knows the offer yet! I hope the Pelicans do something stupid and try to lowball him.

 

[ParniValjak]

What ever happened to the select but loud f who said Tyreke will not get much interest.

A few of us knew he would attract a lot of interest. Teams are not stupid, they know a talented and mis used player when they see one! I am expecting him to get a big offer. If Batum could get max offer last year, so can Tyreke and he just might!

If we lose him, it is a huge set back! The position we are in now is very much due to our front office and ownerhsip last year. Tyreke should have been extended when he was eligible. I hope we do not make the same mistake with Cousins...just extend the man!

 

[Entity]

Well, in order to match, we need Reke to take the offer. And once he does that if we match its over, we keep him. Nobody else gets a shot.

All these years I have never had to worry much about it. I didn't realize that nobody else got a shot. Nice to know.

 

[Mass]

What he's saying is that once he takes an offer sheet, and we match, it's over. He can't take another offer sheet from someone else. Of course he won't take the first one, he'll listen to other offers for sure.

 

[OptimusRhyme]

Jonathan Santiago @itsjonsantiago

Chances Tyreke signs w/ NOLA low if they plan on using him at SF. Source close to Evans says Reke won't "go anywhere for any amount as a 3."

 

[Section 101]

What he's saying is that once he takes an offer sheet, and we match, it's over. He can't take another offer sheet from someone else. Of course he won't take the first one, he'll listen to other offers for sure.

Keep in mind once an offer sheet is signed they can no longer do a sign and trade.

 

[Section 101]

What ever happened to the select but loud f who said Tyreke will not get much interest.

A few of us knew he would attract a lot of interest. Teams are not stupid, they know a talented and mis used player when they see one! I am expecting him to get a big offer. If Batum could get max offer last year, so can Tyreke and he just might!

If we lose him, it is a huge set back! The position we are in now is very much due to our front office and ownerhsip last year. Tyreke should have been extended when he was eligible. I hope we do not make the same mistake with Cousins...just extend the man!

You realize there is talk about every free agent having lots of suitors right now?

 

[Spike]

You realize there is talk about every free agent having lots of suitors right now?

Except that many other teams have free agents that are easily replaced. Not so in Sacramento. We have two assets. (Three, but BMC isn't a contractual issue.) One wants a max deal, and one is out resting the waters because the prior regime was either going to lowball him or let him walk in further efforts to tank the team.

At the very least, this FO wants the team to do well in Sac., but they're about to find out how tough the market can be. We're not a destination team...yet, we will have to overpay, and it starts by keeping our one valuable asset out there testing the waters.

Like I said, yes, this kind of chatter is going on everywhere, but do you think the Bucks are worried about life after Ellis? Not likely. The Lakers with Howard? Many believe they're better off without him. People HERE are rightfully concerned because our backup plan right now involves starting IT, should Evans walk. We would be down to one real major piece, and one unproven rookie. That is what causes worry.

 

[lwc]

Jonathan Santiago @itsjonsantiago

Chances Tyreke signs w/ NOLA low if they plan on using him at SF. Source close to Evans says Reke won't "go anywhere for any amount as a 3."

Good for him. I do not blame him a bit. Why any NBA coach ever thought he could flourish most as a 3 is crazy. What the Kings hopefully have now in BenMac is what Tyreke has needed all along: a 2 that can play defense and shoot from long range.

 

[Mass]

Except that many other teams have free agents that are easily replaced. Not so in Sacramento. We have two assets. (Three, but BMC isn't a contractual issue.) One wants a max deal, and one is out resting the waters because the prior regime was either going to lowball him or let him walk in further efforts to tank the team.

At the very least, this FO wants the team to do well in Sac., but they're about to find out how tough the market can be. We're not a destination team...yet, we will have to overpay, and it starts by keeping our one valuable asset out there testing the waters.

Like I said, yes, this kind of chatter is going on everywhere, but do you think the Bucks are worried about life after Ellis? Not likely. The Lakers with Howard? Many believe they're better off without him. People HERE are rightfully concerned because our backup plan right now involves starting IT, should Evans walk. We would be down to one real major piece, and one unproven rookie. That is what causes worry.

Well, I don't think this is overpaying Evans, and it doesn't depend on the fact that Sacramento is not a great destination. Even if you are the Lakers or the Knicks, your good FAs are going to test the market and look for the best offer they can get. So, if you want to keep them, you need to accept the market value. It's basically what's going on here. It's not overpaying. Thornton was overpaid, because there weren't many teams willing to give him 8+ M.

 

[Kingster]

Jrue is more athletic, more talented and an All-Star with a far higher ceiling and does more things on the floor, Jrue averaged 17 and 8 while Vasquez averaged 14 and 9 I don't see how statistically Vasquez is the better player. Holiday is better by the eye test and statistically.

Holiday is also the better defender.

 

[KingMilz]

Holiday is also the better defender.

Yeah Holiday is a monster pretty much, he's basically a elite level PG nowdays

 

[Spike]

Well, I don't think this is overpaying Evans, and it doesn't depend on the fact that Sacramento is not a great destination. Even if you are the Lakers or the Knicks, your good FAs are going to test the market and look for the best offer they can get. So, if you want to keep them, you need to accept the market value. It's basically what's going on here. It's not overpaying. Thornton was overpaid, because there weren't many teams willing to give him 8+ M.

That's not quite my main point. There is a difference between market value and what sacramento has had to pay, and Thornton is a good example, given the benefit of hindsight. Evans will likely be matched, unless someone throws max at him.

My main point is that the Kings do not have the luxury that other teams do in terms of absorbing the loss of a marquee player right now. Maybe in the future, with a shiny new arena, a better balanced roster, and a team on the upswing, etc., they will.

 

[Mass]

My main point is that the Kings do not have the luxury that other teams do in terms of absorbing the loss of a marquee player right now. Maybe in the future, with a shiny new arena, a better balanced roster, and a team on the upswing, etc., they will.

I agree, you are perfectly right here. That's why I hope we keep Evans. We can't affort to lose talent for nothing in return.

 

[Capt. Factorial]

I don't know this source but....

@whatelvirosaid 14 min
The New Orleans Pelicans are reportedly making Tyreke Evans a large offer, starting at $11,378,284.

To the best of my ability to tell, that's basically their entire capspace, with I assume Jason Smith waived as of yesterday (when his option was due) and Robin Lopez waived if Tyreke signs (option due on the 5th). New Orleans would be looking at this team:

Holiday/Vasquez
Gordon/Rivers
Evans/Nobody/Nobody
Anderson/Nobody/Nobody
Davis/Nobody

With zero capspace and only the room exception, because they'd have to renounce their MLE/Biannual to have the capspace to sign Tyreke. Basically under this circumstance, Tyreke is banking on the Pelicans finding a taker for Eric Gordon or he's stuck at the three on a 7-man squad. And they don't even have a draft pick next year unless they win the lottery.

If he signs that offer sheet, maybe he signs with the hope that the Kings match. Because that team does not look like a recipe for success to me.

 

[Section 101]

To the best of my ability to tell, that's basically their entire capspace, with I assume Jason Smith waived as of yesterday (when his option was due) and Robin Lopez waived if Tyreke signs (option due on the 5th). New Orleans would be looking at this team:

Holiday/Vasquez
Gordon/Rivers
Evans/Nobody/Nobody
Anderson/Nobody/Nobody
Davis/Nobody

With zero capspace and only the room exception, because they'd have to renounce their MLE/Biannual to have the capspace to sign Tyreke. Basically under this circumstance, Tyreke is banking on the Pelicans finding a taker for Eric Gordon or he's stuck at the three on a 7-man squad. And they don't even have a draft pick next year unless they win the lottery.

If he signs that offer sheet, maybe he signs with the hope that the Kings match. Because that team does not look like a recipe for success to me.

They can still sign players for the min salary. And my guess if it's NO then it would be a sign and trade.

 

[Padrino]

wow. so a career 18/5/5 guard with an elite rim attack coming off his fourth season is attracting a whole lotta interest around the league? ya don't say?!



the prevailing opinion across the nba, and across media outlets, is that tyreke evans was misused in sacramento and would benefit from a change of scenery. i have no idea why a sizable contingent of posters at kf.com have assumed that evans could be had for, say, $8 million, particularly given his RFA status. it should not be surprising in the least that teams figure they're going to have to pry evans away from the kings with a big time offer, and that, in doing so, they'll be able to rehabilitate the game and reputation of a deadly offensive weapon with considerable defensive potential, molding him into the all-star caliber guard that his rookie season first suggested he could become. why wouldn't a team not already in the finals conversation take on that kind of minimal risk, given the potential of its reward?

that said, "a change of scenery" can occur right here, where there is new ownership/management/coaching that, on the surface at least, appear to be committed to winning. but tyreke evans is about to test that commitment, and he has every right to do so. will they pay up to retain a talent of irreplaceable value, or will they bleed talent and be forced to compensate elsewhere? i suppose we'll just have to wait and see...

 

[LPKingsFan]

To the best of my ability to tell, that's basically their entire capspace, with I assume Jason Smith waived as of yesterday (when his option was due) and Robin Lopez waived if Tyreke signs (option due on the 5th). New Orleans would be looking at this team:

Holiday/Vasquez
Gordon/Rivers
Evans/Nobody/Nobody
Anderson/Nobody/Nobody
Davis/Nobody

With zero capspace and only the room exception, because they'd have to renounce their MLE/Biannual to have the capspace to sign Tyreke. Basically under this circumstance, Tyreke is banking on the Pelicans finding a taker for Eric Gordon or he's stuck at the three on a 7-man squad. And they don't even have a draft pick next year unless they win the lottery.

If he signs that offer sheet, maybe he signs with the hope that the Kings match. Because that team does not look like a recipe for success to me.

To some extent, I get what they're thinking. I've always thought Holiday would be a good backcourt fit with Evans, and Vasquez would be intriguing too, given his height (in fact I had hoped we could draft him in the second round for that reason, but he went in the late first). That said, there's no way it works with Gordon, and unless they can unload his max contract for a SF it doesn't make much sense to me. If they sign and trade for Iggy with Gordon, though, my head might explode, because they'll have assembled the team I always wanted.

 

[Kingster]

To the best of my ability to tell, that's basically their entire capspace, with I assume Jason Smith waived as of yesterday (when his option was due) and Robin Lopez waived if Tyreke signs (option due on the 5th). New Orleans would be looking at this team:

Holiday/Vasquez
Gordon/Rivers
Evans/Nobody/Nobody
Anderson/Nobody/Nobody
Davis/Nobody

With zero capspace and only the room exception, because they'd have to renounce their MLE/Biannual to have the capspace to sign Tyreke. Basically under this circumstance, Tyreke is banking on the Pelicans finding a taker for Eric Gordon or he's stuck at the three on a 7-man squad. And they don't even have a draft pick next year unless they win the lottery.

If he signs that offer sheet, maybe he signs with the hope that the Kings match. Because that team does not look like a recipe for success to me.

And Evans isn't a 3 and it's very doubtful he is interested in playing as a 3.

It would have to be Evans/Gordon/Rivers, which doesn't make sense. Or they trade Gordon. For what? That seems easier said than done, given his issues. These dots don't connect very well. "Interest" is one thing; paying the bucks is another. I can see Iggy being more in NO's sights than Tyreke because of their logjam at the 2 and their desperate need at the 3.

 

[Padrino]

And Evans isn't a 3 and it's very doubtful he is interested in playing as a 3.

It would have to be Evans/Gordon/Rivers, which doesn't make sense. Or they trade Gordon. For what? That seems easier said than done, given his issues. These dots don't connect very well. "Interest" is one thing; paying the bucks is another. I can see Iggy being more in NO's sights than Tyreke because of their logjam at the 2 and their desperate need at the 3.

well, remember that iguodala is a converted-SF. he successfully made the transition to the frontcourt from the SG position, whereas evans didn't. so it's also up to iggy to determine if he wants to remain a SF, which i imagine he has no problem with. that said, i find myself agreeing with you. NO may have 'reke in their sights, and tyreke may even be expressing interest in NO, but it's all likely a gambit to raise his price in sacramento...

in fact, whatever rumor has been put out there regarding tyreke's lack of interest in playing SF anywhere for any amount of money is likely just another gambit to ensure that the kings keep him lodged firmly in the backcourt, despite the drafting of ben mclemore. arn tellem is a pro, and if his client wants to stay in sacramento at "x" position and at "x" amount of $$$, then tellem will make that happen, even if it means using another team as leverage. agents aren't so scrupulous that they're afraid to play the game. it's what they do...