Alternative Idea if Rubio is there at 4

Dime Dropper

Dime Dropper

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Personally, I take Rubio if he's there at 4. But I know there are some people who are skeptical about his game translating, so I'd like to hear what you think if something like this were to happen. I wouldn't be totally against it, because I am genuinely intrigued by alot of prospects in this draft.

Let's assume Griffin, Thabeet and Harden/DeRozan go in the top 3. We're left sitting on Rubio.

We trade #4 to Minny for #6, #18. With #6 we take Curry/Jennings/Evans. With #18 we take Williams. With #23 we take Teague/Mullens. With 31 we could take Daye/Summers/Casspi, depending on what we do with our other picks.

I suppose this is more about your preffered choice; Rubio (#4) or Curry and Terrence Williams (#6 and #18).

You can substitute in whoever you like for Curry and Williams, but they're two guys I like.

I'd probably just take Rubio and hope upon hope that Williams slides to 23. I really like that guy.

This is just an alternative for the Rubio skeptics. Would you do something along the lines of this?

Why for Kings: Depends on them liking alot of different prospects. I can imagine GP liking Curry, although we haven't actually heard anything like that. He might want to get multiple guys.

Why for Minny: They could do with a PG, and Rubio isn't getting past the Wiz at 5. I know they have Arenas, but they've already said they'd take Rubio or Griffin if they got the first pick.

I think most people already know they "why nots".
 
In the 1990 draft we had the #7, #14, #18 and #23 picks of the first round, as well as the #40 pick in the second round.

We ended up with Lionel Simmons, Travis Mays, Duane Causewell, Anthony Bonner, and Bimbo Coles. :p

If you legitimately think one of the lower ranked PGs has a better chance of being a star and think you can still get him if you trade down a few picks, sure. But you don't do this just to do it -- quantity does not trump quality in draft picks. Guys picked outside of the lottery are all longshots of one sort or the other.
 
if rubio is at the 4 there are no alternatives.. you take him

his agent already cited interest of him playing for sacramento..

if no trades pull through and we manage to take rubio you use the 31st for rodrique beaubois or sergio llul.. the 23rd could be used too it all depends on whos left

but the priority is to take rubio
 
i dont know how and if we will be able to acquire rubio but i really really really really hope JUST this once things go our way..

seriously there is no alternative idea if he falls to you

petrie better be more active than pritchard come draft night..
 
This isn't my preferred scenario. As stated, I'd just take Rubio at 4 and pray that Williams falls to 23. But the premise of this thread is to see what they Rubio doubters think of this situation.
 
Dime Dropper said:
This isn't my preferred scenario. As stated, I'd just take Rubio at 4 and pray that Williams falls to 23. But the premise of this thread is to see what they Rubio doubters think of this situation.
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And you do have me intrigued with the idea. I'm not a Rubio doubter per se but I really don't think he is all that you guys think he is. Anyway back on topic. If we were to be able to pull off a trade like that I would be a very very happy camper. Get Jennings with #6, Williams with #18, Lawal with the 23rd, and pick up a guy like DeMarre Carroll with the 31st. You cannot tell me that is not a successful draft.
 
Bricklayer said:
In the 1990 draft we had the #7, #14, #18 and #23 picks of the first round, as well as the #40 pick in the second round.

We ended up with Lionel Simmons, Travis Mays, Duane Causewell, Anthony Bonner, and Bimbo Coles. :p

If you legitimately think one of the lower ranked PGs has a better chance of being a star and think you can still get him if you trade down a few picks, sure. But you don't do this just to do it -- quantity does not trump quality in draft picks. Guys picked outside of the lottery are all longshots of one sort or the other.
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Wasn't Bill Russell our GM then? Further negating any substance to quantity over quality. 4 1st rouders in ANY draft and I guarantee you Petrie lands 1 star, 2 starters and a nice role player. Geoff picks quality almost exclusively, therefore quantity IS Quality with Geoff track record in drafting.
 
Dime Dropper said:
We trade #4 to Minny for #6, #18. With #6 we take Curry/Jennings/Evans. With #18 we take Williams. With #23 we take Teague/Mullens. With 31 we could take Daye/Summers/Casspi, depending on what we do with our other picks.

I suppose this is more about your preffered choice; Rubio (#4) or Curry and Terrence Williams (#6 and #18).
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All of a sudden this is a strong draft? ;)

My guess would be that Williams won't last to #18, neither Teague nor Mullens will last to #23, and neither Casspi nor Daye will last to #31 (Daye may not last to #23).

Anyway, maybe Curry and T-Will ends up better than Rubio, but you can't bank on getting both. I say take Rubio.
 
Bricklayer said:
In the 1990 draft we had the #7, #14, #18 and #23 picks of the first round, as well as the #40 pick in the second round.

We ended up with Lionel Simmons, Travis Mays, Duane Causewell, Anthony Bonner, and Bimbo Coles. :p

If you legitimately think one of the lower ranked PGs has a better chance of being a star and think you can still get him if you trade down a few picks, sure. But you don't do this just to do it -- quantity does not trump quality in draft picks. Guys picked outside of the lottery are all longshots of one sort or the other.
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Actually, outside of Simmons, Coles was probably the next best player in that bunch. I agree with you on quality over quantity any day of the week. So I guess the real question is whether Rubio is that much better than some others a little further down the draft board? There have been a lot of players over the years that people thought were sure things who turned out, not so much to be total busts, but never reached their projected potential.

Going back to the draft you brought up. I suspect that if Petrie were the GM then we might have done a tad better than we did. When supposedly Motta never spoke to, worked out, or even looked at film of any of those players before drafting them. I don't think we should be surprised at the result.
 
Smills91 said:
Wasn't Bill Russell our GM then? Further negating any substance to quantity over quality. 4 1st rouders in ANY draft and I guarantee you Petrie lands 1 star, 2 starters and a nice role player. Geoff picks quality almost exclusively, therefore quantity IS Quality with Geoff track record in drafting.
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Nope, it was Dick folding chairs Motta....:rolleyes:
 
If Rubio falls to the 4 spot, you take him no matter what. But if Petrie is really high on another player that might not be around at #23, than you use the #23 and #31 picks to move up, maybe throwing some money in if needed. But I would take Rubio at 4, and use the other picks to trade up into the 10-15 range if another prospect we really like won't slide to #23.
 
First, if the Kings don't think Rubio is worth a #4, Minni isn't going to give up 2 top 20 picks for him. They might exchange the 4 & 23 for the 6 & 18, but they're not giving away the 18.

If there is someone we want other than Rubio, then draft him and try to buy or trade with one of the teams over the cap to get their's. Wash, Milw,NY, & Pheonix have between $64M & $77M in contracts already, and might not want to pay luxury tax on a 1st round pick. Offer them the 31st pick & cash, or a future 1st round pick that's top 10 protected.
 
HighTopKicks said:
First, if the Kings don't think Rubio is worth a #4, Minni isn't going to give up 2 top 20 picks for him. They might exchange the 4 & 23 for the 6 & 18, but they're not giving away the 18.
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Well, that would depend on how Minny felt about him woudn't it? Assumign we did not tip our hand prematurely, if they were wild for rubio, they might sacrifice that #18. A #18 in a draft of this nature really is a shot in the dark. Its like a #25 in a normal draft.
 
Trading Minny our 4, 23, and 31 for their 6, 18, and 28 could make sense for a number of scenarios. Rubio being available at 4, however, is not one of them.
 
What about Earl Clark and Eric Maynor/or Ty Lawson, and Mills at 31? if no Rubio?

Earl Clark, Donte Greene, and Andres Nocioni fight for the starting spot and trade 1.

Be nice if Clark could be Danny Granger type.

Maynor said he would like to come here.

Maynor/Mills
Kmart
Clark
Jt
Hawes
 
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