est.1999
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I’m willing to give Perry a couple more years before I pass judgment on how this team gets built and managed
[Game] 56/82: Kings @ Jazz 11 FEB 2026, 6pm PT/9pm ET
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Now, I'm not the type to say "be careful what you wish for because you just might get it," but if'n I were, now'd be the time.
Cool. The Kings still plan on selling tickets in the meantime, though, right?
fansinceday1
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It’s fun being at a downtown Sacramento bar and listening to the bartenders just destroying the kings. “Why do we even have this crap on?” “Too bad they didn’t move to Seattle”. How embarassing. What a joke.
Joshyjosh31
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OP said young stud we don’t have any I don’t get what you’re getting at. Keegan is a good complimentary player yes but he’s no young stud
Joshyjosh31
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Who cares! They won’t be bitching if we properly rebuild what was better an 11th place finish missing out on draft prospects on the back of Derozan, westbrick, and Lavine
I'll ask you again, why is "stud" where you draw the line? Are you incapable of seeing the value in any player who's not a "stud"?
So what if there are no "studs" on the team right now? This ain't the Olympics: you can't field an NBA team with 12 "studs," you need the other guys, too... Don't you think you ought to develop them, and instill winning habits in them, at some point?
You can't possibly believe that everything will just magically work itself when/if the Kings actually get their Golden Ticket™, can you?
Krunker
Northernmost Kings Fan
At least the bartenders were fun even if the game was unwatchable
est.1999
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That’s a fair point. I’m not a fan of tanking like this long term. The kings definitely have multiple issues to clean up. Easiest thing is to be able to draft a player with super star potential. You draft Peterson or AJ, you’ll sell tickets without trying.
There's still 13 home games between now and the end of this season, assuming that the tank works... You reckon that Ranadivé will be giving the tickets to those games away? And, if not, what's the sales pitch?
"If" doing a lot of heavy lifting in that sentence. What gives you any reason to believe that they even could?
I'm thinking talent will rise to the top
3 years from now, Cardwell/Max/Nique will be players or not due to their own innate talent/work ethic/inner fortitudes. Not sure being on losing teams beats a players innate talents down over time.
If that were the case, all the players at the end of the Thunders bench would be good players due to culture etc.
Well, that's the rub, isn't it? How do you find the balance between losing enough for the tank to work and playing competitive ball?
Joshyjosh31
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I literally just said I value Keegan as well as ellis and Carter
I’ll take the if over wining 38 games with mid 30’s players at least there’s light at the end. Winning 38 games does absolutely nothing for the team or young guys waving towels on the bench
That makes it sound like you think that the only kind of players worth your while are can't-miss types. You don't believe in player development?
I don't really buy into that "I'm just built different" stuff. Some players are, the rest have to be coached up. The young players on the Kings aren't really being coached.
sactowndog
Hall of Famer
The problem is this roster sucks, is old and is expensive. Not sure how you blame Perry and assign no blame to Monte when Perry came in with no cap space and no 1st round pick in a good draft.That was ... horrible. Yay, tanking! I'm sure the young players learned a LOT from this game.
The Jazz fans accused us of tanking. I said nah we are just that bad.
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Well, you "literally" didn't say it. What you said was that Murray is " a good complimentary player," while also going out of your way to make sure that I knew that you don't think he's a stud, which we also call "damning with faint praise"... If you value Murray, why do you care if he's a "stud" or not?
I feel like there's an excluded middle that you're ignoring on purpose. Those aren't the only two options. Like, why wasn't having one or two veterans (as opposed to six or seven) to teach the kids how to be professionals, show them good habits, and teach them how to stay engaged during a long season an option that was ever considered?
Insomniacal Fan
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I'm not aware of any other teams suffering a decade long curse for rebuilding (Ok, maybe the Knicks) Most get back on their feet in a few years.
Joshyjosh31
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Well ya that’s what normal franchises do lol
Potential doesn’t mean squat. Oden had potential. Hardaway had potential. Roy had potential.
And if you do draft him, you certainly hope he decides to play in more than 1/2 of the games, unlike this year, right? Is he your guaranteed stud to lift us out of this oblivion?
Because multiple sports radio shows are talking about how he’s not really showing he’s a team player or that he wouldn’t be the best pick for a team like Sacramento.
It takes more than just talent.
Krunker
Northernmost Kings Fan
I thought something like the cavs game was good balance, but I think what I really would like to see is the effort more so than being competitive - not just giving away easy layups and wide open jumpers.
Of course it doesn't help when you're down big and brick horrifically from 3 and pretty much everywhere.
Are you comparing the Kings to a normal organization?
I thought you knew better.
Until the trade deadline we were not tanking. We were just horribly bad naturally.
QWERTYLICIOUS
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If bottoming out now leads to topping out later, I am perfectly fine with bottoming out.
QWERTYLICIOUS
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We are redefining the art of tanking as we speak!
I’m most interested in supporting a team that is fun and has a chance to win most games. I don’t care if a team wins a championship. My favourite childhood sports team lost twice in the semi-finals, but I don’t really care my memories are of going to the games with my parents and waving a flag around (as well as crying when my dad said he couldn’t afford tickets to the semi-finals). My favourite teenage sports team won back-to-back world cups, and it was nice, but I don’t have any real positive memories of it, and it didn’t change my life in anyway. The Kings sort of needed to pivot before Fox asked out. Then they were forced to when he asked out. So, there is some inevitability that they will be bad for a minute or two. But they are a community asset and their responsibility to putting an engaging and accessible product on the floor is greater than their responsibility to compete for a championship. Be bad this year, draft someone, move on.