[Game] 54/82: Kings vs. Cavaliers 07 FEB 2026, 7pm PT/10pm ET

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But it didn’t really work out on the business side either. Shroder wasn’t a breakout star. In fact he probably had a lower value than we got him because he played below his contract. I’m ok with a FO and owner that makes mistakes but not with ones that refuse to admit mistakes and change things…like playing Carter over Shroder earlier.
They clearly admitted the mistakes moving on from Schröder as quickly as they did. Nique is getting the ball handling duties which was Schröder's role, so Carter is getting Keon's time.

The team made it clear at the end of last season they wanted to add an experienced PG to the rotation, they did, it failed, they have now set themselves up nicely in the draft and are playing kids in those spots. Sometimes you have to fail to move forward.
 
They clearly admitted the mistakes moving on from Schröder as quickly as they did. Nique is getting the ball handling duties which was Schröder's role, so Carter is getting Keon's time.

The team made it clear at the end of last season they wanted to add an experienced PG to the rotation, they did, it failed, they have now set themselves up nicely in the draft and are playing kids in those spots. Sometimes you have to fail to move forward.

Carter is running a lot of the pick and roll sets lately. Nique is still kind of doing what he's been doing, bring the ball up and swing it over. Overall both play the style of ball the Kings wanted to play on both ends. Get the ball up fast, be unselfish, and D up on the other side.
 
Carter is running a lot of the pick and roll sets lately. Nique is still kind of doing what he's been doing, bring the ball up and swing it over. Overall both play the style of ball the Kings wanted to play on both ends. Get the ball up fast, be unselfish, and D up on the other side.
Getting the ball out of the back has been a bit of a problem dating back to when Fox was here and out of the game. Especially when we let Huerter do it (for whatever reason), he'd get easily trapped. I think that is why they brought in traditional points but as Nique is proving you don't exactly need it with the right personnel. If we don't wind up drafting one next season we'll probably bring another one in but hopefully only to play back up and the team will continue its new direction.

I think Doug will be back so whatever.
 
Getting the ball out of the back has been a bit of a problem dating back to when Fox was here and out of the game. Especially when we let Huerter do it (for whatever reason), he'd get easily trapped. I think that is why they brought in traditional points but as Nique is proving you don't exactly need it with the right personnel. If we don't wind up drafting one next season we'll probably bring another one in but hopefully only to play back up and the team will continue its new direction.

I think Doug will be back so whatever.

and the one guy that never really seemed to have a problem with it in Monk, "they" were not comfortable with. Go figure
 
If you want to believe that Dallas just happened to organically get the #1 pick, when they had a 1.8% of doing so,...while "coincidentally" it was right after they traded Doncic to the Lakers, be my guest :oops:

That's how probabilistic outcomes work sometimes.

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and the one guy that never really seemed to have a problem with it in Monk, "they" were not comfortable with. Go figure
Based on post trade deadline and the exit interviews none of the players and you have to assume the entire org seemed happy with going into this season with Monk in that role. Given how it's played out with us in the driver's seat for a real impact player and perennial all star or even better I'm not going to split hairs on this.
 
Based on post trade deadline and the exit interviews none of the players and you have to assume the entire org seemed happy with going into this season with Monk in that role. Given how it's played out with us in the driver's seat for a real impact player and perennial all star or even better I'm not going to split hairs on this.
Yeah. I would have rather seen Monk, Keon, and Carter all get the full role and playing time opportunity to raise their value and development. Even a player like Monk can still improve with the right stimulus and situation
 
Yeah. I would have rather seen Monk, Keon, and Carter all get the full role and playing time opportunity to raise their value and development. Even a player like Monk can still improve with the right stimulus and situation
And if somehow everyone stayed healthy, we were a play in team, and gave Keon 15m plus next year, would we be better off for it?
 
And if somehow everyone stayed healthy, we were a play in team, and gave Keon 15m plus next year, would we be better off for it?

Likely depends on who the pick ends up being, but Monk and Keon could have both been traded for good value, had they been handled better...and we would have a much better idea of what a more developed in rhythm Carter could be going forward after this season
 
Likely depends on who the pick ends up being, but Monk and Keon could have both been traded for good value, had they been handled better...and we would have a much better idea of what a more developed in rhythm Carter could be going forward after this season
What if Hunter is good next year? I feel like we're all sleeping on him out of frustration.
 
What if Hunter is good next year? I feel like we're all sleeping on him out of frustration.
Unless they are willing to go big at the two position, there's a decent chance that the high draft pick could create a starting lineup issue. Take AJ or Boozer for example. Would they be willing to try Hunter, Murray, and AJ or Boozer together in a starting lineup? or if not, one of this high priority investments will be coming off the bench
 
Some are willing to believe in convenient very low odds coincidences. To each their own
Please explain to me, in detail, why every other team (including the Kings) would go along with the league manipulating the draft to send the #1 pick to a #11 team that just traded away one superstar for another big name star. The teams don't want to see a team like Dallas get a good pick.

Did the league do the same for the Lakers in 2019 (moved from 11th to 4th) and the Nets and Hawks in 2024 (both moved up from 9th and 10th to 3rd and 1st, respectively)? Or was Dallas "special" due to the stupid trade? And why would the league reward them for making a stupid trade to begin with?

The idea is preposterous.
 
I’m so much happier while watching this young team play, win or lose. I would go buy tickets for a game now and I would not have at any point earlier this year.
 
Please explain to me, in detail, why every other team (including the Kings) would go along with the league manipulating the draft to send the #1 pick to a #11 team that just traded away one superstar for another big name star. The teams don't want to see a team like Dallas get a good pick.

Did the league do the same for the Lakers in 2019 (moved from 11th to 4th) and the Nets and Hawks in 2024 (both moved up from 9th and 10th to 3rd and 1st, respectively)? Or was Dallas "special" due to the stupid trade? And why would the league reward them for making a stupid trade to begin with?

The idea is preposterous.
Even if teams suspected it, there is very little to nothing they can do without concrete proof. So why go there, if they're making a lot of profit anyways? I sense that you've made up your mind on this, no matter what anybody says. Don't know what to tell you, if you've watched the league close and believe that it's all organic. That's Ok
 
Unless they are willing to go big at the two position, there's a decent chance that the high draft pick could create a starting lineup issue. Take AJ or Boozer for example. Would they be willing to try Hunter, Murray, and AJ or Boozer together in a starting lineup? or if not, one of this high priority investments will be coming off the bench
Did I read somewhere that Keegan's dad thinks he can play the 2? I don't think running three wings is out of the question in today's NBA if we have the right players in the other two spots, which is going to be the bigger question moving forward.

Depending who we draft Hunter may very well end up being our 6th man and that is fine if we plan to keep him hopefully it will be at a reduced price.
 
Did I read somewhere that Keegan's dad thinks he can play the 2? I don't think running three wings is out of the question in today's NBA if we have the right players in the other two spots, which is going to be the bigger question moving forward.

Depending who we draft Hunter may very well end up being our 6th man and that is fine if we plan to keep him hopefully it will be at a reduced price.

I would be willing to try it, but have doubts that the Kings will. Murray's general skill set is not far off from prime Klay Thompson
 
Even if teams suspected it, there is very little to nothing they can do without concrete proof. So why go there, if they're making a lot of profit anyways? I sense that you've made up your mind on this, no matter what anybody says. Don't know what to tell you, if you've watched the league close and believe that it's all organic. That's Ok
You'd also have to have Ernst & Young in on the deception, or fooled somehow.

A firm that has clients like Coca Cola, Lockheed-Martin, and AT&T is not plausibly going to risk its reputation for a single night per year of joyful fraud.
 
You'd also have to have Ernst & Young in on the deception, or fooled somehow.

A firm that has clients like Coca Cola, Lockheed-Martin, and AT&T is not plausibly going to risk its reputation for a single night per year of joyful fraud.
Like, that is legitimately an "If this gets out, we're out of business! No fines, no suspensions, no sanctions, we're out of ****ing business!"-level scandal. How big would the payoff have to be?
 
If you want to believe that Dallas just happened to organically get the #1 pick, when they had a 1.8% of doing so,...while "coincidentally" it was right after they traded Doncic to the Lakers, be my guest :oops:

Ya it was a coincidence that it happened to New Orleans as well also a coincidence that the lakers have lead the league in free throws for five straight years regardless of roster construction
 
You'd also have to have Ernst & Young in on the deception, or fooled somehow.

A firm that has clients like Coca Cola, Lockheed-Martin, and AT&T is not plausibly going to risk its reputation for a single night per year of joyful fraud.

Yes you would. Billions of dollars at play and the power that goes with it
 
A Big 5 accounting firm's portfolio in total is worth billions, the NBA gig is probably valued mostly in PR. Silver probably writes them a check; I doubt it's worth going the Arthur Andersen route.
Ok. You believe it's all run organically and above board. I don't. Tim Donaghy was just the tip of the iceberg
 
Ok. You believe it's all run organically and above board. I don't. Tim Donaghy was just the tip of the iceberg
It doesn't require anybody to believe that "it's all run organically and above board." It merely requires people to believe that the NBA couldn't offer EY enough money to make it worth their while to do that. You can maybe pay a referee off, because a referee isn't worth fifty-one billion dollars. EY's not tanking their entire business for a couple of million; they wouldn't even do it for the NBA's entire net worth.
 
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