[Game] 32/82: Kings @ lakers 28 DEC 2024 7:30pm PT/10:30pm ET

[ShastaKingsFan]

As much as I love both Deebo and Monk, I think we need one of them coming off the bench and one of them traded. I’m not normally the type that calls for that but I think we need to fix the defense before anything. We need to be in every game due to physicality and defense and then figure out the rest offensively.

I think Monk gets a longer leash than he deserves, I guess because of his attitude? Just not a winning player in a lot of games, when you consider the details

 

[Double-K]

Yeah it would eliminate the bad shooters from shooting 3's as well upping % imo, the days of Josh Smith jacking 3s would be over.

Somewhere in a Y, Josh Smith suddenly airballs a 3.

Who am I kidding? Josh Smith is in no shape to play ball these days... hahahahah

 

[dude12]

Be careful what you say in the post game presser Doug. Once again Reaves and AD > Fox and Domas. Time to be sellers and not buyers. This season is toast

 

[serbiangoat]

Murray is one of many Kings who could have learned from Sasha Vezenkov how to move without the ball, to break to the basket, to find the backdoor cut. Those are skills you learn and that are incorporated into the offensive flow. In other words, the lack of off-the-ball movement comes from the coaches parking players in the corner and saying, "Sit."

If Murray keeps going down this path he may get signed to Sasha's Euroleague squad and he can learn in person again.

 

[iowamcnabb]

Murray is one of many Kings who could have learned from Sasha Vezenkov how to move without the ball, to break to the basket, to find the backdoor cut. Those are skills you learn and that are incorporated into the offensive flow. In other words, the lack of off-the-ball movement comes from the coaches parking players in the corner and saying, "Sit."

he actually does cut pretty well and he use to get a basket or two on those from Sabonis every game. Don’t know why he doesn’t get the same looks this year but some of it is he doesn’t always go hard on them. Room for improvement for sure

 

[Joshyjosh31]

As much as I love both Deebo and Monk, I think we need one of them coming off the bench and one of them traded. I’m not normally the type that calls for that but I think we need to fix the defense before anything. We need to be in every game due to physicality and defense and then figure out the rest offensively.

Maybe the 35 year old that doesn’t pass or shoot threes

 

[ShastaKingsFan]

Murray is one of many Kings who could have learned from Sasha Vezenkov how to move without the ball, to break to the basket, to find the backdoor cut. Those are skills you learn and that are incorporated into the offensive flow. In other words, the lack of off-the-ball movement comes from the coaches parking players in the corner and saying, "Sit."

spacing at the expense of player movement

 

[kingsboi]

Monk thinks everything is a good time. A generally great attribute in real life but not great during a losing streak

in psychology, this is referred to as toxic positivity

 

[Joshyjosh31]

Curious if you move Monk in a Fox deal how that impacts collecting some of the allegedly untouchable pieces that team in Fox's hometown has.

We ain’t getting Amen

 

[pdxKingsFan]

I'm for this. 25 three-pointer limit. After that, all shots are only worth two points, no matter where on the court you shoot from.

What if there we no 3 pointers until the 4th quarter? Or final 3 minutes of a quarter?

Is that too arbitrary? Would it break those hot minutes? Or would taking the rhythm out of it make them less likely even when they were available?

 

[Joshyjosh31]

If Murray keeps going down this path he may get signed to Sasha's Euroleague squad and he can learn in person again.

Hahaha

 

[Mr. S£im Citrus]

I think you can ask this question for a large group of the fans in attendance in any arena

Sure, but how many fans in other arenas are paying up to a band for the privilege?

 

[sactowndog]

Well it appears the problem is not the coach. On a good note with the 8th pick the BPA appears to be a center Khaman Maluach.

of course Monte will still draft a 6’3” guard.

 

[Sam0ah]

As much as I love both Deebo and Monk, I think we need one of them coming off the bench and one of them traded. I’m not normally the type that calls for that but I think we need to fix the defense before anything. We need to be in every game due to physicality and defense and then figure out the rest offensively.

How about both... Put Lyles and Keon in..... Now we might find offensive K Murray again.

 

[AaronPDX]

Not to be the total party bummer? But I suspect they're going to lose the next game as well. This is soooo damn frustrating. Something has to give.

 

[pdxKingsFan]

Monte will not be drafting if we are picking 8th.

 

[iowamcnabb]

Well it appears the problem is not the coach. On a good note with the 8th pick the BPA appears to be a center Khaman Maluach.

of course Monte will still draft a 6’3” guard.

did you watch the Gleague game today?

 

[kingsboi]

Sure, but how many fans in other arenas are paying up to a band for the privilege?

I'd imagine a fair amount

 

[sactowndog]

did you watch the Gleague game today?

Yeah. So who you sitting to give him minutes? Maybe you should trade Fox and open up space.

 

[Mr. S£im Citrus]

This is the first time since the 2009-10 season that the Kings were swept by the lakers. It's the first time since 2019-20 that the Kings have even lost the regular season series.

 

[SacTownKid]

Yeah. So who you sitting to give him minutes? Maybe you should trade Fox and open up space.

Anyone not named Fox would be a good start from the looks of it.

 

[Mr. S£im Citrus]

I'd imagine a fair amount

I don't think we're working from the same definition of "fair amount." I'm not willing to stipulate that there are a "fair amount" of thousand-dollar seats in all thirty arenas combined.

 

[SacTownKid]

Not to be the total party bummer? But I suspect they're going to lose the next game as well. This is soooo damn frustrating. Something has to give.

Something has to change. They were kind of implying that Christie didn't even try and do anything different because all this happened so quickly. One thing he has to try is putting Keon next to Fox as much as possible. It's very obvious that a team with only Keegan out there as a defender isn't working, won't work, and will likely never work. Moving forward Keon and Devin as your lead defenders on the ball is so obvious it's blinding.

 

[iowamcnabb]

Yeah. So who you sitting to give him minutes? Maybe you should trade Fox and open up space.

he’s my future starting 2 guard.

 

[sactowndog]

he’s my future starting 2 guard.

so you want to make the team smaller? Because playing undersized at every position has worked so well?

 

[SacTownKid]

Undersized at the 2? Really, moving those goal posts again lol. Yeah, you definitely didn't watch the game. If you did you would have taken note about what "size" did against him.

 

[kingsboi]

I don't think we're working from the same definition of "fair amount." I'm not willing to stipulate that there are a "fair amount" of thousand-dollar seats in all thirty arenas combined.

didn't he mention $300 seats?

 

[megapoxy]

Keon playing something like 3, 3, 3 and 4 minutes in each quarter was a bit odd. For sure he is not the solution to everything, but for the majority of Kings fans that "demanded" him having more playing time with MB, this moments he was on the court doesn't change much at least in this game compared with "MB era".
He didnt miss a shot (one of his made 3s was quite lucky the way the ball bounced at the rim and went in) but he wasn't so much effective in the defense especially when going against D-Lo that cooked him at least twice that I recall.
Still I think those 3+3+3+4 is not "ideal" to use any player on the court, he can't find a rhythm. During halftime Keon was the only player warming up not wearing "jackets" (having the Kings uniform/shirt as it was a normal match), maybe because of that.

 

[Joshyjosh31]

Undersized at the 2? Really, moving those goal posts again lol. Yeah, you definitely didn't watch the game. If you did you would have taken note about what "size" did against him.

Man Carter ain’t a star yall overhyped for a solid role player

 

[Joshyjosh31]

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