2008 Olympics thread - use SPOILER tags!

Eh, not sure I need to tag this under the spoiler but I will anyway...unfortunately I missed Bolt's 200. I will say hearing that he busted Johnson's record made me giggle since Johnson had said there was no way he would break it, he had figured what the top pace Bolt could run...giggle. Otto Bolden disagreed.... point-Bolden. :)

Bolt is a freak. I hope the post Olympic recap show lets me see that race again. And the 100, which was just as stupid crazy, that I did see and just sat there "um, wow"

Damnit! That's for the USA Softball team.

WTG!! That's for the USA Women's soccer team, special shoutout to Hope Solo who I figured might really come out to show she could back up her beliefs. That was awesome this morning.

And finally GOOOO Women's Volleyball team
 
How does Roqaya Al-Gassra not pass out while wearing that? :eek:
I wonder is the record book would list that as fastest woman wearing hijab?

I respect her, though. It isn't easy to be a woman athlete in some countries, if they even let you try. To have had to do it while still honoring her religious beliefs! She must've really, really wanted to run.
 
Just turned on the TV and they are showing the ladies walking very fast. They aren't running, nor walking, just speed walking. Its looks funny. Is this a new event? By the way, as I'm watching this, it is downright pouring rain.
 

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International Olympic Committee launches probe into He Kexin's age

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/olympics/article4583174.ece

The International Olympic Committee has ordered an investigation into mounting allegations that Chinese authorities covered up the true age of their gold-medal winning gymnastics star because she was too young to compete.
An IOC official told The Times that because of "discrepancies" that have come to light about the age of He Kexin, the host nation’s darling who won gold in both team and individual events, an official inquiry has been launched that could result in the gymnast being stripped of her medals.
The investigation was triggered as a US computer expert claimed yesterday to have uncovered Chinese government documents that he says prove she is only 14 - making her ineligible to compete in the Olympics - rather than 16, as officials in Beijing insist is her age.
Mike Walker, a computer security expert, told The Times how he tracked down two documents that he says had been removed from a Chinese government website. The documents, he said, stated that He’s birth date was January 1 1994 - making her 14 - and not January 1 1992, which is printed in her passport.


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Just turned on the TV and they are showing the ladies walking very fast. They aren't running, nor walking, just speed walking. Its looks funny. Is this a new event? By the way, as I'm watching this, it is downright pouring rain.

No, that is not a new event. I remember making fun of that when I was a kid. You've probably not seen it before because they would rather show the same events over and over again instead of some of the lesser known events.
 

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Um, if she's watching it, isn't it pretty apparent they ARE showing different and lesser-known events? Sorry, hoopsie, but you seem to have a lot of anger about the coverage this time around while I think it's been incredible. With all the stations involved, I've watched events I never had the chance to watch before.
 
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/olympics/article4583174.ece

The International Olympic Committee has ordered an investigation into mounting allegations that Chinese authorities covered up the true age of their gold-medal winning gymnastics star because she was too young to compete.
An IOC official told The Times that because of "discrepancies" that have come to light about the age of He Kexin, the host nation’s darling who won gold in both team and individual events, an official inquiry has been launched that could result in the gymnast being stripped of her medals.
The investigation was triggered as a US computer expert claimed yesterday to have uncovered Chinese government documents that he says prove she is only 14 - making her ineligible to compete in the Olympics - rather than 16, as officials in Beijing insist is her age.
Mike Walker, a computer security expert, told The Times how he tracked down two documents that he says had been removed from a Chinese government website. The documents, he said, stated that He’s birth date was January 1 1994 - making her 14 - and not January 1 1992, which is printed in her passport.


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He Kexin, Olympic champion with baby teeth smile and all...:confused:

Just of fun: What will Olympic committee determine is actual age of He Kexin? Is she about to lose her gold metals?

16?
15?
14?
13?
12?
 

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Watching the men's gold medal beach volleyball match, I have a question:

The women wear these itty bitty little bikinis which are barely big enough to keep them from being arrested in some countries. Why then do the men not only wear board shorts, but tank tops as well? I want itty bitty little Speedos!! Seems unfair to me - equal eye candy for all!!!
 
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Watching the men's gold medal beach volleyball match, I have a question:

The women wear these itty bitty little bikinis which are barely big enough to keep them from being arrested in some countries. Why then do the men not only wear board shorts, but tank tops as well? I want itty bitty little Speedos!! Seems unfair to me - equal eye candy for all!!!
I agree.
 

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What is the precedent for scandal of this order from the host country?
I don't think there is one. Bob Costas did mention, however, the US relay team that was stripped of their medal from 2000 when one of their team members recently admitted to doping during the games.

He also said the documents the IOC is examining would indicate she was born on 1/1/94 and NOT the 1/1/92 shown on her passport.
 

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Wow. Nothing like a 12 hr investigation into possibly fraudulent documents. How about doing a little leg work here?

IOC: Is she 16?
China: Yes.
IOC: That's good enough for us.

It's like the NCAA is running things. If anything does come out of it, I'm sure it will be waaay after the Olympics are over.

On another note:
30-12 after the first quarter - will USA let Argentina back in the game, or will they slam the door shut?
 
On another note:
30-12 after the first quarter - will USA let Argentina back in the game, or will they slam the door shut?
USA up by 9 at half after Argentina cut it to 6. USA maybe starting to show its achilles heal with very weak inside game against another team that has a strong inside presence. If Argentina starts to hit better from the outside in second half USA could crash and burn.
 
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It's not like a zone is that tricky if you're aggressive. Just go 1-3-1, high post, then drop down to Howard or Kobe on the blocks. They score, or kick out to someone who takes an easy jumper.
The problem is, I'm not seeing much rotation. Maybe they'll wear down Argentina with defense in the 2nd half. We'll see.

I say open with a full court press.
 
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Well, USA didn't crash and burn winning by 20. Luis Scola was easily most effective player on the floor with 28 pts and 12 boards. Loss of Manu Ginobili to foot injury early in the game might have made it closer - but overall too much Team USA firepower.
 
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Argentina tested the U.S. more than any other team so far in the entire tournament, and the U.S. failed pretty miserably. Crap outside shooting, crap ball-handling, crap FT shooting, crap interior defense, crap passing...

...and yet they still won by 20.
 

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Well, USA didn't crash and burn winning by 20. Luis Scola was easily most effective player on the floor with 28 pts and 12 boards. Loss of Manu Ginobili to foot injury early in the game might have made it closer - but overall too much Team USA firepower.
Dude, use the spoiler, like above.
 

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Looks like the age issue might get the whitewash treatment....

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,408541,00.html

Snippets from the story - I like the attitude - the Chinese government would never lie about an athelete's age (even if it was the governments own documents making the case being argued).

The IOC said Friday there is still no proof anyone cheated, though it asked the International Gymnastics Federation to investigate "what have been a number of questions and apparent discrepancies," spokeswoman Giselle Davies said. However, all the information the Chinese gymnastics federation presented supports its insistence that its athletes were old enough to compete.

"We believe the matter will be put to rest and there's no question ... on the eligibility," Davies said. "The information we have received seems satisfactory in terms of the correct documentation — including birth certificates."

"At this competition, the Japanese gymnasts were just as small as the Chinese," he said. "Chinese competitors have for years all been small. It is not just this time. It is a question of race. European and American athletes are all powerful, very robust. But Chinese athletes cannot be like that. They are by nature that small."

He said the governing body of gymnastics was given additional documents Thursday night to try to dispel lingering questions. Those documents included He's current and former passport, ID card and family residence permit. Lu said the documents all say she was born in 1992, which would have made her eligible to compete. Gymnasts must turn 16 during the Olympic year to be eligible.

"Surely it's not possible that these documents are still not sufficient proof of her birthdate?" Lu asked. "The passports were issued by the Chinese Foreign Ministry. The identity card was issued by China's Ministry of Public Security. If these valid documents are not enough to clarify this problem, then what will you believe?

"The Chinese government and the Chinese athletes must be respected," he added.

The coach dismissed Chinese media reports and online records that suggested that He, Yang and a third team member, Jiang Yuyuan, might be as young as 14.

"If you trust every Web site but not a government...," he said. "There are so many Web sites, so much hearsay. These are not official. It is possible that all news on the Internet is accurate?"

The federation has said repeatedly that a passport is the "accepted proof of a gymnast's eligibility," and that China's gymnasts have presented ones that show they are age eligible. The IOC also checked the girls' passports and deemed them valid before the games began.

Andre Gueisbuhler, secretary general of the FIG, said the federation would release a statement later Friday.

"For the time being, there is nothing I can add," Gueisbuhler said.

Media reports include a Nov. 3 story by the Chinese government's news agency, Xinhua, that suggest He is only 14.

"I was born in 1992, and I'm 16 years old now," He said. "The FIG has proved that. If I'm under 16, I couldn't have been competing here."

Earlier this month, the AP found registration lists previously posted on the Web site of the General Administration of Sport of China that showed both He and Yang were too young to compete. He was born Jan. 1, 1994, according to the 2005, 2006 and 2007 registration lists. Yang was born Aug. 26, 1993, according to the 2004, 2005 and 2006 registration lists. In the 2007 registration list, however, her birthday has changed to Aug. 26, 1992.
 
Olympic boxing is a disgrace. The scoring system is an absolute joke. It actually makes me feel sick. Just watched DeGale "beat" the Cuban guy undeservedly. He fought OK, but the judges were giving him questionable points and missed multiple points the Cuban should have scored.

It's not the first fight I've seen this happen in, and it makes me so angry. :mad:
 
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I haven't watched much of the boxing coverage, but from what I have watched... they should really just NOT interview the boxers.

Granted, a cockney accent and the repeated assertion that "the geezer bit me" has a certain entertainment factor, but these guys are by and large the least gracious winners AND losers I've heard at the games.
 
Olympic boxing is a disgrace. The scoring system is an absolute joke. It actually makes me feel sick. Just watched DeGale "beat" the Cuban guy undeservedly. He fought OK, but the judges were giving him questionable points and missed multiple points the Cuban should have scored.

It's not the first fight I've seen this happen in, and it makes me so angry. :mad:
That happened in Seoul, SK (1988) to Roy Jones. He basically used a Korean fighter as a punching bag for the entire match and and the crooked judges gave the Korean guy gold.

Holyfield had to take bronze in 84 because an incompetent ref made some weak "break" call right in the middle of a combination. His opponent got knocked out and the ref said he intentionally threw the punch after the signal (which didn't even come with an attempt to break them up and which there's no way Holyfield could've heard during a flurry of punches). After the announcement of DQ, Evander's opponent grabbed his arm and raised it and the guy who eventually won gold brought him up to the 1 spot on the podium.
 

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I don't think stuff that happened over 20 years ago needs to be spoilered! Anyhow I posted before on how frustrating the scoring system is.

The RJJ fight is the reason we have the scoring system we have today.

Holyfield's DQ was outrageous, but that kind of thing happens in pro boxing too.

Basically the Olympics don't want pro boxing style boxing in their games. That's cool, they don't need to use the 10 point must, but surely there could be an alternate scoring system that works better. If you have 5 judges can't they just take the punch counts and throw out the high and low and take the totals for the other 3, regardless of whether they all pushed the button at the exact time or not? How about allowing the punches to be scored between rounds like how the gymnastics allow deductions to be replayed? And there needs to be some extra points awarded for knockdowns. Preferably 3 or 5 points. This would curtail the jab to score and turtle to hang on approach to medalling at Olympic boxing. Lastly, if they want to make boxing fencing with fists, maybe they could put the boxers in electronic suits that register scoring blows?
 

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The Bee says it's taking place at 11:30 p.m. and being shown at "2:30 a.m. taped."

I'm not taking any chances. I'm not going to watch anything but Ch. 3 until I've seen the game, bleary eyes or not.
 

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The Bee says it's taking place at 11:30 p.m. and being shown at "2:30 a.m. taped."

I'm not taking any chances. I'm not going to watch anything but Ch. 3 until I've seen the game, bleary eyes or not.
Me too (well channel 8 here).

I missed the semi-final game after checking the times on the USA Basketball page and setting the DVR accordingly - even the 12 hour window of programming on that channel said it had the men's semifinals. I went to watch it this afternoon and found 2 hours of ping pong and an episode of House. WTF??? And I cleared other Olympic events off to watch. Maybe I should stop trying to record exclusively in HD.

No chances tonight, I'll watch from 11:30 on.
 

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I usually don't break out the Gevalia coffee until the regular NBA season starts but I think tonight calls for a nice pot of strong French Vanilla. If you were closer, pdx, I'd offer you a cup.

:)