2005-2006 Kings Leading Scorer
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Bballkingsrock
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VF21 said:
I don't think so. It says the free-agents that will be in the summer of 2006, next year, does not have Peja in it. BUT, in summer of 2007, the year after, it has him as a free agent.
Free Agents of 06: http://www.realgm.com/src_freeagents/2006/
Free Agents of 07: http://www.realgm.com/src_freeagents/2007/
Plus, a lot of talk would be talked about him and we haven't really heard anything yet, except theat Bonzi should play well this year because heis contract ends after this year.
http://www.realgm.com/srcfreeagents/2006/
Bricklayer
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Bballkingsrock said:
Not sure what you're looking at there, but here's the situation:
Peja has a contract through the end of this year, 05-06.
Peja has a PLAYER option to extend it through next year, 06-07
There's no way he's going to exercise that player option, so his contract is up at the end of this season. Geoff has said as much. Numerous stories about next year's FA class have said as much. Its this summer unless he exercises that option, and he has no reason to exercise that option given the amount of money coming his way, and the lack of other top FAs to compete for it with him this summer.
If he's still on the team come April, he could walk away this summer and leave us with nothing. After having Vlade leave for nothing, Doug go for Cat, who then left for nothing, and Webb bring back only three overpaid benchers, losing Peja for nothing as well would be a sore sore blow and extremely difficult to recover from. Tally sheet from our golden years starting 5 would be Vlade, Webb, Peja, Doug for KT, Skinner, Corliss.
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Bballkingsrock
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Oh ok. I see. My bad..... 
kingsfan916
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i would love to see thatCirca_1985_Fan said:
but of course we need that D
kingsfan916
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well we should re sign peja in my opinion
Circa_1985_Fan
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Well thats a no brainerKP said:
Bricklayer
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Kings113 said:
$$$ even if he does have an "impressive" season, which I rather doubt he will given the competition. Peja's not an intangibles off-the-ball guy. He needs shots to be effective. The one thing we do not have enough of to go around.
Slightly off topic, but somewhat related to who has an impressive season and who does not:
Structure of our team is interesting right now.
a) we have four guys who could legitimately score 20.
b) Mike and Brad appear solidly set up to stay -- each has a solid defensive backup (Hart/Skinner) behind him, but not a guy you would start. Each has a longterm deal, and they play the two most difficult positions to fill. They do not need to have huge years to still be easily the best options at those spots.
c) SAR and KT are in a virtual platoon. SAR should win that as the more talented player, although he's been enigmatic in the early going here. When that happens looks like KT may be unhappy. If SAR has a good season and KT is stuck on the bench permanently, put a tick next to KT's name as a potential ex-King.
d) and here's the interesting part -- Peja and Bonzi are unrestricted FA's this summer. Both are ending contracts. And it just so happens that sitting behind them, now that we seem to be playing Garcia at SF, are our two young 1st round picks of the last 2 years. They are young, they are far cheaper. Could we be setting things up to have Kevin and Cisco take over next year and let Bonzi/Peja walk + save $20 mil in cap room in the process? If the kids show and either one of the Peja/Bonzi pair struggle, would not surprise me if that's being considered.
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Bricklayer
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KP said:
Not sure why exactly? What Peja provides is points. We've got PLENTY of points whether Peja has a good season, a bad one, or something in between. Peja could score 17 and we should still easily break 100ppg. Much different situation than in the past when Peja was the clear #2 to Webber and there weren't any other major scorers on the roster. Now if he doesn't score, Bonzi does. Or Shareef does. Or Mike does. Or...
What we need is somebody to have a big defensive year or big rebounding year to be successful. Those are the areas where we are lacking and need a leader.
Bricklayer
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tyrant said:
If Brad scores 21ppg, which seems rather highly unlikely given his history and mentality, then that's points from everyone else on the board. In order to make room for that, that means the 4 guys who are all proven to be better scorers than Brad have to be down around 15-17 pts.
Ths team reminds me a lot of the Dallas team of two years ago with Twoine and Jamison. Even some similarity in personnel (Peja/Dirk, Mike/Nash, Bonzi/Finely, SAR/Jamison, KT/Walker (or maybe Brad for the passing) etc., and maybe even the kids (Daniels+Howard/Martin+Cisco) providing the bulk of the hustle. More scorers than there are shots, and everybody has to get their points by stealing from others. Somebody, or multiple somebodies, has to lose out. But I'm not really sure the team loses out regardless of who it is because the points are scored anyways. Biggest thing is that, like that Dallas team (which won 50) its going to create a problem with identity, chemistry, defense, PT etc.
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6th
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Brad is just not a shoot first kinda guy. With all the shooters on this team, I expect Brad to defer except when he has the ball in the low post (not that often); when he is trailing someone into the lane and it is passed off to him (couple of times a game); or, when time is running down and he has the ball and must take the shot (on occasion). He will not be looking for his shot, as will many of the others. I expect Brad to average 12-15 ppg.
tyrant
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the only chemistry problem that the kings have is that they don't know if they want to do a behind the back pass or a bounce pass. this team is looking good and they look better the more they play with eachother. dallas had players who wanted to jack up shots and couldn't make a good pass. terrible decision making. can't believe you're comparing them to the kings. i'm happy to say that there is not 1 player in our starting lineup that will pad their stats instead of helping the team. i want brad miller to become the leading scorer. run the offense in the high post, knock down shots and feed the perimeter guys. kenny thomas is the only real cancer. he needs to accept that he will not be a starter. get his act together and he can win 6th man of the year.
Bricklayer
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tyrant said:
Um..weren't you the guy who hasn't been able to watch them play yet? They have shown flashes here and there, of both the good and the bad.
And that Dallas team had just as many passers as this one does. Problem was, like this team, the passers are all also shooters. ESPECIALLY if Brad decided to go off and become oour leading scorer. He's the one guy I actually expect to be able to step back and sacrifice shots for the team.
tyrant
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you can tell alot from highlights and espn media play. but no, i haven't sat down and watched the full 2 1/2 hours. i thought you knew best of all that our starters don't mind passing. the only gifted passers the mavs have seen lately are nash and walker, everyone else is so predicatable. basic bounce or chest pass. how can this team be compared to dallas. we moved the ball and we always play better than dallas? that's an insult. and they always get beat 4-1
the kings have guys that can move the ball better. threading the needle. this club has paid guys will real ball handling ability. some of the best passers within the last half decade. jason williams, divac, bibby, webber, christie, miller. and it seems to be rubbing off on rahim and bonzi
the kings have guys that can move the ball better. threading the needle. this club has paid guys will real ball handling ability. some of the best passers within the last half decade. jason williams, divac, bibby, webber, christie, miller. and it seems to be rubbing off on rahim and bonzi
OptimusRhyme
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Kings113 said:
Shareef is a good shooter.
KP
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Then we are in for a long season, because no one is capable of that on this team. We need production from Peja night in and night out and he is the only proven 20 point a night guy on this team. We do have a lot of scorers but he is by far the most prolific. We no longer have the guy who does everything at a high level, we traded that away. Now we need everyone to play to their strengths and mask each others weaknesses. Peja's strength is his scoring... at least until we really need a bucket to win a game.Bricklayer said:
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tyrant
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the only thing that can kill our hopes is defense. protect the paint and get in someones grill. what kills me is remembering game 4 of the 1st round last year. ray allen shooting from 50 feet away with no one in his face. you would think after he made his 5th straight 3-pointer someone would get in his face. i think we're okay with rebounding. kenny and brad are both 9+ rebounds a game players. tho shareef will have to bang for the boards a little harder. i think he's averaging like 2 rebounds per game so far. NOT GONNA CUT IT AS A STARTING POWER FORWARD.
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KP
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What killed me last year was playing good defense for a whole possesion and then not getting the rebound and allowing second and 3rd chance points. Kenny and Brad couldn't grab a defensive board when we needed it. We have to limit teams to one shot when we can. Reefs rebounding so far is a little worrisome.tyrant said:
tyrant
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KP said:
because no one wants to box out. it's rediculous. on a defensive possession our players are inbetween the goal and the player their guarding. when the ball goes up, face the basket, put your backside to a player and move them the heck out the way. everyone just stands there
tyrant said:
Yeah, SAR is just gonna start averaging 2-3 boards a game during the season when he's a 8RPG career guy. Also note the last season and a half in Portland he didn't start, and was playing as SF (I don't know when he started playing PF, I assume in his latter Grizz days or in Atlanta?) and played in 54 games the second run with Portland. But over those two whole seasons (ATL/Portland), he averaged 7.5 and then 7.3 RPG. But before being traded to Portland in 03-04 (53 GP) w/ Atlanta, he was averaging 9.3 RPG.
http://www.nba.com/playerfile/shareef_abdur-rahim/index.html
It's pre-season, just calm down.
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