How to situate our backcourt...
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Whether you wnat IT starting, or on the team even, is inconsequential to his production relative to our ability to sign him at the option.
IT is a bargain. You don't let bargains walk. Even if you don't want them. You accept the option, then you trade him for pieces you do want. If you can't find a piece, you trade him for a 2nd to someone and wipe your hands clean. That's called keeping your options open. Why anyone would advocate declining a 2nd round option on a player who has started in the league is beyond me. It's incomprehensible.
IT is a bargain. You don't let bargains walk. Even if you don't want them. You accept the option, then you trade him for pieces you do want. If you can't find a piece, you trade him for a 2nd to someone and wipe your hands clean. That's called keeping your options open. Why anyone would advocate declining a 2nd round option on a player who has started in the league is beyond me. It's incomprehensible.
Like I asked, what do you think you are going to get for a player with one year left on his contract that is worth less than a million? I honestly don't know. Of course you want to get something for him if you can but I don't see anyone offering much for him.
Just one second round pick, is that the value you see him commanding?
Just one second round pick, is that the value you see him commanding?
Because this forum refuses to see how productive he actually is and is fine calling him "selfish" and a "chucker". Neither of which are true, but thats besides the point.
And are you kidding? We'd have 15 teams ready to take IT off our hands for a 1st round pick. Or you use IT as an incredibly cheap asset to sweeten the pot in a larger deal. Or we use IT to unload a Hayes or Salmons to free up cap room.
And are you kidding? We'd have 15 teams ready to take IT off our hands for a 1st round pick. Or you use IT as an incredibly cheap asset to sweeten the pot in a larger deal. Or we use IT to unload a Hayes or Salmons to free up cap room.
Pete likes RMC(Ray McCallum) so much, so RMC could come off the bench. he likes Reke and Ben, too.
though of three guard rotation(Reke, Ben and RMC) make sense
MT is a great scorer, that is all he can do as well. paying 8M to the 3rd guard option(even 4th option) is crazy, not make sense.
Kings has to trade him for something, maybe SF or backup big, whatever.
though of three guard rotation(Reke, Ben and RMC) make sense
MT is a great scorer, that is all he can do as well. paying 8M to the 3rd guard option(even 4th option) is crazy, not make sense.
Kings has to trade him for something, maybe SF or backup big, whatever.
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This could be wrong, http://www.hoopsrumors.com/2013/02/isaiah-thomas-201314-contract-now-guaranteed.html no idea.
Here's this too http://data.shamsports.com/content/pages/data/salaries/kings.jsp
Which do I believe?!?!
Which do I believe?!?!
Assuming Tyreke is kept as a point guard (and that's a IF), I would go with this backcourt :
Starters : T. Evans & B. McLemore
Bench : T. Douglas & R. McCallum
I see Tyreke spending a lot of minutes as a 1/2 so, behind him and McLemore, there would be no many minutes left at the 2 spot. Salmons can fill in if needed (injury).
Point guard sub duty would be split between McCallum and Toney Douglas (very good D, good shooter, cheap).
I think this backcourt would be versatile :
Evans/McLemore => size and offense
Douglas/Evans => defense
Douglas/McLemore => shooting
McCallum/Douglas => small ball
Thomas, Thornton & Fredette have value and should be dealt for a SF (ideally good at defense and passing for helping Evans managing the offense).
Starters : T. Evans & B. McLemore
Bench : T. Douglas & R. McCallum
I see Tyreke spending a lot of minutes as a 1/2 so, behind him and McLemore, there would be no many minutes left at the 2 spot. Salmons can fill in if needed (injury).
Point guard sub duty would be split between McCallum and Toney Douglas (very good D, good shooter, cheap).
I think this backcourt would be versatile :
Evans/McLemore => size and offense
Douglas/Evans => defense
Douglas/McLemore => shooting
McCallum/Douglas => small ball
Thomas, Thornton & Fredette have value and should be dealt for a SF (ideally good at defense and passing for helping Evans managing the offense).
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I am pretty sure that we already picked up IT's option for next season before Vivek bought the team. I recall reading somewhere that we have done this!
For me, I would got Tyreke - McLemore backcourt with IT as the change of pace guard off the bench that can play with either of them and get his 20-25 minutes each game (which is close to his current minutes average). It also gives McCallum a year to get adopted to life in the NBA with a view to take over from IT if we decide not to pay him next year!
Thornton was expandable regardless, even more so now and a chip to use to address the SF and/or the shot blocking/defense at PF.
That is how I would go but I get the feeling the front office is planning on life without Reke!
For me, I would got Tyreke - McLemore backcourt with IT as the change of pace guard off the bench that can play with either of them and get his 20-25 minutes each game (which is close to his current minutes average). It also gives McCallum a year to get adopted to life in the NBA with a view to take over from IT if we decide not to pay him next year!
Thornton was expandable regardless, even more so now and a chip to use to address the SF and/or the shot blocking/defense at PF.
That is how I would go but I get the feeling the front office is planning on life without Reke!
Generally I prefer MT over IT, but Thomas sure looks like the better fit now. Just a better ball handler than MT, and that's what you need with Evans/McLemore.
That being said, MT is going to be harder to move. It and Jimmer should be moveable.
Evans/McCallum
McLemore/Thornton
And Salmons, if he's here, can backup both spots. If this is the route we take, I'd still look at signing Beno and have McCollum ride the bench this season. Udrih would be a great backup plan if something bad happens.
That being said, MT is going to be harder to move. It and Jimmer should be moveable.
Evans/McCallum
McLemore/Thornton
And Salmons, if he's here, can backup both spots. If this is the route we take, I'd still look at signing Beno and have McCollum ride the bench this season. Udrih would be a great backup plan if something bad happens.
Yes, that is true.
Also, one should note, Sham has very specific contract details if you hover your mouse over IT's name. In this he details that if IT played at least 50 games last year and averaged 15 minutes in the 50 that he had the highest minutes, his contract would be automatically picked up. I don't know why Deeks, who appears to have the best contacts in the business, would make up or get falsely fed such specific contract details. I would say odds are very strong that Sham is right and IT's contract has been automatically renewed for next year.
Also, one should note, Sham has very specific contract details if you hover your mouse over IT's name. In this he details that if IT played at least 50 games last year and averaged 15 minutes in the 50 that he had the highest minutes, his contract would be automatically picked up. I don't know why Deeks, who appears to have the best contacts in the business, would make up or get falsely fed such specific contract details. I would say odds are very strong that Sham is right and IT's contract has been automatically renewed for next year.
The first part of the season if everything remains the same as it is now (which I don't think it will);
PG: IT - Evans - McCallum
SG: Evans - MT - McLemore
Of course this changes once McLemore gets more experience, and it could happen as early as the end of pre-season. But as it stands now, the picks are the last guys on the depth chart for now. I really do like the McLemore pick though.
PG: IT - Evans - McCallum
SG: Evans - MT - McLemore
Of course this changes once McLemore gets more experience, and it could happen as early as the end of pre-season. But as it stands now, the picks are the last guys on the depth chart for now. I really do like the McLemore pick though.
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