ESPN: Chris Wallace leader for Kings GM

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anybody has an opinion on this guy?
He specializes in contract/salary cap management. I've heard a lot of endorsement for that but haven't heard much about roster philosophy.

I'd much rather have him as a number two next to a strong talent evaluator and roster organizer.
 

bajaden

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Its highly possible that they're looking for two people. One to fill president of operations, and the other to fill the GM role. Petrie held both positions, but on some teams its two people.
 

VF21

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Its highly possible that they're looking for two people. One to fill president of operations, and the other to fill the GM role. Petrie held both positions, but on some teams its two people.
This is quite likely.

And for the record? I'm not in any rush for them to make a hasty decision. They're doing their due diligence and not reacting to the external pressure to make a selection quickly.

Vivek Ranadive is gonna get it right.
 

Kingster

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I'm starting to get concerned about this draft. The Bee article did it for me. No mention of Petrie in the picture, though supposedly he's still working for the Kings until the 30th. Just Malone working out potential draft candidates and him saying he's looking at lots of film on these guys. Frankly, Malone making the pick would probably be a freaking disaster. His decision is probably going to be informed much more on the workout than on seeing games in person and watching virtually every game the player has played. In that scenario, maybe we get the workout warrior, but not necessarily the best basketball player available. The main ingredient that is missing in any workout is BBIQ, of which this team is desperately in need. Now, if Vivek hires a GM who has been intimately involved in the coming draft with another team prior to the draft, then it's no so bad, as he will be making a very informed decision. But if someone like Bird who has not been working 24-7 over the past year on assessing personnel and he's coming into the draft cold as refrigerated fish, then that's not good . Anyway, now that I've got that off my chest, I'll go back to enjoying the nice Delta breezes that we have today.
 

VF21

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I'm starting to get concerned about this draft. The Bee article did it for me. No mention of Petrie in the picture, though supposedly he's still working for the Kings until the 30th. Just Malone working out potential draft candidates and him saying he's looking at lots of film on these guys. Frankly, Malone making the pick would probably be a freaking disaster. His decision is probably going to be informed much more on the workout than on seeing games in person and watching virtually every game the player has played. In that scenario, maybe we get the workout warrior, but not necessarily the best basketball player available. The main ingredient that is missing in any workout is BBIQ, of which this team is desperately in need. Now, if Vivek hires a GM who has been intimately involved in the coming draft with another team prior to the draft, then it's no so bad, as he will be making a very informed decision. But if someone like Bird who has not been working 24-7 over the past year on assessing personnel and he's coming into the draft cold as refrigerated fish, then that's not good . Anyway, now that I've got that off my chest, I'll go back to enjoying the nice Delta breezes that we have today.
They may not have mentioned him, but Petrie was shown in clips from yesterday's pre-draft workout, standing right behind Malone. I think people just need to exhale and let the process evolve. I know of at least 12 people on this board alone who could make an educated choice in our draft picks. It's not rocket surgery. ;)
 
They may not have mentioned him, but Petrie was shown in clips from yesterday's pre-draft workout, standing right behind Malone. I think people just need to exhale and let the process evolve. I know of at least 12 people on this board alone who could make an educated choice in our draft picks. It's not rocket surgery. ;)
I read Petrie was scouting in Europe or something.
 
They may not have mentioned him, but Petrie was shown in clips from yesterday's pre-draft workout, standing right behind Malone. I think people just need to exhale and let the process evolve. I know of at least 12 people on this board alone who could make an educated choice in our draft picks. It's not rocket surgery. ;)
Agree. They- the Kings staff- are just about done with their draft work and, as always, they can only pick one person and they will. I'm very interested and curious about their pick but not worried.
 

Glenn

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My problem, and then I'll shut up as I am not hysterically worried, is that I think some creativity is needed to deal with this awkward #7 pick unless someone falls to us. The pick may best be used in a bundle to use as a trade. Whoever does that needs to know what direction the Kings are going with the position, with Tyreke, etc. and we don't have anyone on board who has that knowledge. We have gone long enough picking people who tickle our fancy or who we have essentially no knowledge (TRob). We need a direction and stick to it.
 
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Entity

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I agree glenn. would have been nice if somebody would have not been so high on Isaiah Thomas and actually picked lillard last year. I guess taking 2 pg's in the previous draft would have looked silly to take a 3rd in the very next draft. I'd say two straight top 10 picks were wasted the last 2 years. but I guess we can't continue to dwell on that. only makes me mad.
 
I agree glenn. would have been nice if somebody would have not been so high on Isaiah Thomas and actually picked lillard last year. I guess taking 2 pg's in the previous draft would have looked silly to take a 3rd in the very next draft. I'd say two straight top 10 picks were wasted the last 2 years. but I guess we can't continue to dwell on that. only makes me mad.

If you look back at the mocks from last year robinson was clearly ranked higher than Lillard, many had Robinson going right after Davis at #2.. I can't blame our front office necessarily for such a consensus pick.. could they have done better, I guess, but hindsight is 20/20
 
If you look back at the mocks from last year robinson was clearly ranked higher than Lillard, many had Robinson going right after Davis at #2.. I can't blame our front office necessarily for such a consensus pick.. could they have done better, I guess, but hindsight is 20/20
The key is for your fo to be better than the internet mock draft guys... hindsight is what they should be judged on, this is the highest level we're talking about. You want a guy as gm that has a proverbial crystal ball.
 
The key is for your fo to be better than the internet mock draft guys... hindsight is what they should be judged on, this is the highest level we're talking about. You want a guy as gm that has a proverbial crystal ball.

Good point roast. Though, you also have to look at it from the front office's perspective.. If you have a prospect who most believe is top 2-5, and you have another prospect that most of the basketball community is slightly lower.. If you believe that lower prospect to be truly better, your still risking the wrath of your fanbase.. What if it goes the other way? What conversation would we be having if Petrie picked Lillard and it was Robinson who was blowing up now?

Although, I agree, we do need a GM with a crystal ball.. and I'm not really happy with the choice of GM opportunities so far
 
The key is for your fo to be better than the internet mock draft guys... hindsight is what they should be judged on, this is the highest level we're talking about. You want a guy as gm that has a proverbial crystal ball.
.......and nobody does. If they pick your guy every third person on here will be p¥¥¥Ed off. You can win by trading your pick....or lose. Same with a guard or a center or SF. So I'll sit back and enjoy seeing them do their thing, congratulate them and enjoy watching our new guy develop....... Or not.
 
Just saw this posted on twitter
Marc Stein ‏@ESPNSteinLine 22m
New name, meanwhile, surfaces in Sacramento's ever-expanding GM search: Heard Kings are interviewing San Antonio assistant GM Scott Layden

 
Just saw this posted on twitter
Marc Stein ‏@ESPNSteinLine 22m
New name, meanwhile, surfaces in Sacramento's ever-expanding GM search: Heard Kings are interviewing San Antonio assistant GM Scott Layden

I like this. Anyone from SA is ok with me... love how that teams put together with all of the length and all of the shooters.
 

Bricklayer

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From tomorrow's SI:

Kings Broaden GM Search To Include Every Front Office Employee in NBA


If this keeps up I am seriously thinking of applying. Why not? I'll probably at least get a phone interview out of it.
 

VF21

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Just saw this posted on twitter
Marc Stein ‏@ESPNSteinLine 22m
New name, meanwhile, surfaces in Sacramento's ever-expanding GM search: Heard Kings are interviewing San Antonio assistant GM Scott Layden

Oh, please, please, please, please, please... :)

If only it wasn't Marc Stein saying it...
 
  1. I like this. Anyone from SA is ok with me... love how that teams put together with all of the length and all of the shooters.

And I thought I was worried about chris Wallace. Scott layden is a complete joke. Sund is experienced and wouldn't be a bad number 2 but he wasn't great in Atlanta.
 

hrdboild

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Dear god no! Scott Layden would be worse than David Kahn. His tenure in New York was epically bad. I still remember the Knicks fans chanting "Fire Layden" so loud during the draft that they drown out David Stern. And associating him with the Spurs organization in any way is misleading. He's been with the Spurs less than a year.
 
Amick reporting Sund would pair with Schlenk and serve in an advisory role to him.
How about pairing Geoff Petrie as President and Schlenk for GM.

So you have a good blend of experience (2 time NBA executive of the year) and new world data analysis and scouting (Schlenk).

Make GP and Schlenk cooperate on any basketball decisions.

Give GP a 1 year contract to show he's better than the last 6 years of being Magoofed. If Vivek does not like the results, then replace GP next year.
 
How about pairing Geoff Petrie as President and Schlenk for GM.

So you have a good blend of experience (2 time NBA executive of the year) and new world data analysis and scouting (Schlenk).

Make GP and Schlenk cooperate on any basketball decisions.

Give GP a 1 year contract to show he's better than the last 6 years of being Magoofed. If Vivek does not like the results, then replace GP next year.

I definitely thought the organization needed to part ways with GP, but thats before I've seen whats apparently available. Some of the names I've heard bandied about make Petrie look like West in his prime.. That bridge has probably been burned though, and after being let go I wonder if either party would swallow their respective prides to agree to keep GP within the organization if there is indeed no better prospects
 
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