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I'm just interested to see how we address our SF woes. You don't need a shotblocker quite as much if you have good perimeter defense, and the good thing about adding Robinson is we should get better at finishing defensive possessions by getting the rebounds. I hope that he knows his offensive touches are not going to be a priority though. Btw can someone fill me in on what happened with his family?
I generally agree with 99.9% of your posts, but I think you're getting a little grumpy with old age.
Brick, my advice is to relax for tonight. People aren't going to want to analyse team needs properly until the adrenaline has subsided and expectations come back to reality.
I like the pick, but the reality is that our roster does not fit at the moment. It's a legitimate criticism that we haven't adressed any needs. I'm glad we took Robinson, but more moves need to be made. We can't continue ignoring shot-blocking and defense in general. We certainly have a talented enough core, but now we need to be smart and get in our defensive role-players and vets. Do this and we are certainly competing for a PO spot. It's a lot to ask as of now, however, and I'm not sure I have faith in GP to pull off the necessary moves.
With the addition of Robinson, trading Thornton becomes much more easy. Robinson won't demand 20 shots a game, but he can score some. Even with a dropoff from trading Thornton for defense, we'll still score enough. Scoring has not been the problem. It's stopping the other team. We won't be respectable as a team until we seriously address defense.
I'm still wondering if we may be involved in a trade with Charlotte. I mean, they got MKG, we got TRob.. If I were Charlotte and I knew Cleveland wasn't picking TRob, then I'd pick MKG and then work out a trade with SAC. If that didn't work out, the Cats would have a good player and the pressure would be on the Kings to see if they wanted MKG more than TRob.
NOTE to all that want us to trade and pick a SF. The last thing I want is another SF to crowd the bench at that postion. We need to get into a win now mode and trade for a SF or sign one and Robinson isn't going to start from day one as some may think. Best case scenerio for us right now is trade Hayes get lowry and go after SF with trade of Thorton or as a free agent. and yes keep JT he is a great 3rd big and whiteside is better shot blocker than anybody drafted tonight.
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This is what I HOPE to see a lot of this year
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This is what I HOPE to see a lot of this year
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=siiQm0Cby3A&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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I generally agree with 99.9% of your posts, but I think you're getting a little grumpy with old age.
Brick, my advice is to relax for tonight. People aren't going to want to analyse team needs properly until the adrenaline has subsided and expectations come back to reality.
I like the pick, but the reality is that our roster does not fit at the moment. It's a legitimate criticism that we haven't adressed any needs. I'm glad we took Robinson, but more moves need to be made. We can't continue ignoring shot-blocking and defense in general. We certainly have a talented enough core, but now we need to be smart and get in our defensive role-players and vets. Do this and we are certainly competing for a PO spot. It's a lot to ask as of now, however, and I'm not sure I have faith in GP to pull off the necessary moves.
With the addition of Robinson, trading Thornton becomes much more easy. Robinson won't demand 20 shots a game, but he can score some. Even with a dropoff from trading Thornton for defense, we'll still score enough. Scoring has not been the problem. It's stopping the other team. We won't be respectable as a team until we seriously address defense.
Brick, my advice is to relax for tonight. People aren't going to want to analyse team needs properly until the adrenaline has subsided and expectations come back to reality.
I like the pick, but the reality is that our roster does not fit at the moment. It's a legitimate criticism that we haven't adressed any needs. I'm glad we took Robinson, but more moves need to be made. We can't continue ignoring shot-blocking and defense in general. We certainly have a talented enough core, but now we need to be smart and get in our defensive role-players and vets. Do this and we are certainly competing for a PO spot. It's a lot to ask as of now, however, and I'm not sure I have faith in GP to pull off the necessary moves.
With the addition of Robinson, trading Thornton becomes much more easy. Robinson won't demand 20 shots a game, but he can score some. Even with a dropoff from trading Thornton for defense, we'll still score enough. Scoring has not been the problem. It's stopping the other team. We won't be respectable as a team until we seriously address defense.
I absolutely agree that we cannot be done though. NOW is the time we go find players that fit, even if we lose out on talent. IT-Reke-T-Rob-Cousins is a playoff core. Now it's about filling strong defensive role players and floor spacers around them to build a playoff team
I agree with all that and it's pretty much what I had posted, I think. The money/mins factor is why I immediately said this means JT is gone, or at least should be, and now our 3rd big need to be a defender/shotblocker. I also agree with you on how Petrie has gone about getting shotblockers in the past with too many other bigs eating their mins, and then he lets them walk.
IMO, JT is now gone, or damn well should be, and Chuck should be included in a trade to make way for a new 3rd big, or we sign one/acquire one and Chuck turn into the clear 4th big with spot mins. I do think TRob will surprise some with his man defense, and now we really need better defenders next to Reke at the 1 and 3, or 2 and 3 depending on where Reke plays next year.
IMO, JT is now gone, or damn well should be, and Chuck should be included in a trade to make way for a new 3rd big, or we sign one/acquire one and Chuck turn into the clear 4th big with spot mins. I do think TRob will surprise some with his man defense, and now we really need better defenders next to Reke at the 1 and 3, or 2 and 3 depending on where Reke plays next year.
Do you not remember the Kings of 2001-2002? One of the top teams in opp fg% and they didn't have an elite level shot blocker in the starting lineup. Webber was fringe elite (1.5-2 I think that year?).
IT plays great D for his size. He was one of the league leader in opp fg%
Robinson is known for his D so I am not sure where you are getting your information.
IT plays great D for his size. He was one of the league leader in opp fg%
Robinson is known for his D so I am not sure where you are getting your information.
They certainly have been when their rim protectors are healthy, and they have been better than us defensively EVERY SINGLE YEAR. Your cluelessness about defense is jsut ridiculous. More because you are so stubborn about it than because you started off ignorant.
here's Milwaulkee in Opp FG% since Skiles took over:
11-12: t14th (injured Bogut)
10-11: 6th
09-10: t9th
08-09: t14th
Here's us:
11-12: 30th
10-11: 22nd
09-10: 20th
08-09: 30th
They've also finished ahead of us in the standing every year despite us having the much more dynamic talents.
You asked and you got an answer.. So teams with great players don't need to worry about shot blockers?
Does that mean that teams without great players need shot blockers? If we don't have great players we wouldn't make any noise anyway. So if I had a choice I would rather take a great player than a mediocre shot blocker.
Also, the Kings didn't have an elite shot blocker in their 2001-2002 team. Vlade/Webb/Peja/Christie/Bibby.
Does that mean that teams without great players need shot blockers? If we don't have great players we wouldn't make any noise anyway. So if I had a choice I would rather take a great player than a mediocre shot blocker.
Also, the Kings didn't have an elite shot blocker in their 2001-2002 team. Vlade/Webb/Peja/Christie/Bibby.