Draft Thread

For what it's worth, I love the pick because I think Robinson was clearly BPA, and he can form the basis of a fantastic, physical frontcourt for many years. But for this to be a successful off-season, we can't just stand pat. We need a defensive SF, even if that means moving Thornton. We also need a shotblocker, preferably as the third big off the bench. That's unlikely now given our roster make-up, but hopefully we trade for one in the short-term.

This pick wasn't a perfect fit, but it's not terrible either. Robinson will be a good defender. He has the quickness, hands, work ethic and strength to be much better than average. But he's obviously not that elusive shotblocker, and we need one.
I agree completely with this post.

Robinson was the clear best player available. But we did not address our greatest need, which is a solid SF who can play defense. That has to be addressed in some manner before we start next season.
 
Bricks posts are normally a bit pessimistic ;) Best to read the wonderful stats and analysis he posts and try not to respond to strategy related areas :)
Didn't he admit a while back that he doesn't watch college BB? If that's the case why is he telling the people that DO watch these guys that we are wrong? I don't get it.
 
This is outrageous and makes no sense as to the Kings needs but now I want us to work a trade for Henson. Yeah, yeah, throw the bricks this way. :) I can want what I want.

Perhaps a little trade for a SF needs to occur before the summer is over. (returning to sanity)
I'd be on board. I've been a big Henson fan for years know.

With Robinson AND Henson on board, I'd be ok letting JT walk.
 

Capt. Factorial

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This is outrageous and makes no sense as to the Kings needs but now I want us to work a trade for Henson. Yeah, yeah, throw the bricks this way. :) I can want what I want.
I like Henson, and I'm pretty surprised he's fallen this far. I don't think we have ROOM for him right now, but I like him.
 
We just gained a +1 in the passion department. You can never have enough of that on this team. Big Cuz and TRob will kick people in the *** if they don't work their butts off during practices and games. Love the pick. Absolutely love it!
 
I don't even know how to respond to you anymore. You're so full of yourself and your opinion that you're bashing a gift from god pick in T-Rob. Judging from your posts, you think he's a offensively selfish player who is a liability defensively. Which is absolutely the furthest thing from the truth.

One question though. Would you rather have Dalembert or Thomas Robinson?

But don't you kind of have to admit that there is a tipping point between too much talent for it to work and not enough roles filled to compliment it appropriately? Talent drop is good when you are desperate for it but are the Kings desperate for more talent?
 
I took this excerpt from NBADraft.net's scouting report on T-Rob. If he lives up to that assessment in the NBA, he's a great fit defensively san shot blocking. But we have Whiteside who can do that and maybe, just maybe they'll go get a veteran SF that can do it also.
Yup. I don't have issues with him guarding his man. He's an extremely talented player. What's important with the pick though is for Petrie to now get guys to cut off perimeter penetration, as I don't think either he or Cuz are or will be great help defenders. He's now one of our top 3-4 players and part of our core. You build around your core. Reke/TRob/Cuz need defenders at the PG and SF. If we do that and get a defensive 3rd big I don't have any problems for the time being.

Really, the pressure is on Petrie to round out the roster defensively around the new Reke/TRob/Cuz core.
 
Wow....the Suns just drafted their next Steve Nash...or so they hope in Kendall Marshall.

Looks as if Nash will probably try for a ring next season.
 
For what it's worth, I love the pick because I think Robinson was clearly BPA, and he can form the basis of a fantastic, physical frontcourt for many years. But for this to be a successful off-season, we can't just stand pat. We need a defensive SF, even if that means moving Thornton. We also need a shotblocker, preferably as the third big off the bench. That's unlikely now given our roster make-up, but hopefully we trade for one in the short-term.

This pick wasn't a perfect fit, but it's not terrible either. Robinson will be a good defender. He has the quickness, hands, work ethic and strength to be much better than average. But he's obviously not that elusive shotblocker, and we need one.
You simply cannot pass on a talent like Robinson. The thought of him and Boogie on the boards is going to be a thrill to watch to say the least. The offensive potential is going to be through the roof with these 2.

We talk about building a playoff basketball team all the time. We just took a HUGE step in doing so by having 2 big, physical, rebounding bigs with tremendous athletic and scoring ability. Not too many other teams in the NBA can boast that fact. Let's also not pretend that Cousins won't improve defensively, or that Robinson isn't ALREADY a great man/team defender.
 
For what it's worth, I love the pick because I think Robinson was clearly BPA, and he can form the basis of a fantastic, physical frontcourt for many years. But for this to be a successful off-season, we can't just stand pat. We need a defensive SF, even if that means moving Thornton. We also need a shotblocker, preferably as the third big off the bench. That's unlikely now given our roster make-up, but hopefully we trade for one in the short-term.

This pick wasn't a perfect fit, but it's not terrible either. Robinson will be a good defender. He has the quickness, hands, work ethic and strength to be much better than average. But he's obviously not that elusive shotblocker, and we need one.

I think this was a perfect fit.. Why? Because we already saw we could bring in a guy off the streets to play SF (Williams) and I do NOT want Thompson as a long term starting PF on this team. Thompson is WAY too inconsistent. Hayes can only play D and Whiteside might be another year from being able to get some minutes.
 

Bricklayer

Don't Make Me Use The Bat
Bricks posts are normally a bit pessimistic ;) Best to read the wonderful stats and analysis he posts and try not to respond to strategy related areas :)

Yeah, nudge me when my pessimism isn't warranted. I've been around here a LONG time. Long enough that there was a time when I often got accused of being a homer and not realizes how bad we had it being stuck with bums like Webber and Adelman. You will find my "ism" of the moment has generally tracked nicely with the fortunes of the team.
 
Jeremy Lamb to Houston... Does it mean Kevin Martin is going to be traded? Anyways, I don't think this is a pick made for us, or at least I hope so. Maybe the trade with Houston is definitely dead.
Yeah, with Houston drafting Lamb, it means that Martin has to be on his way out.

Lamb's a terrific pick-up for them, especially with the 12th pick.
 
Drafting the best talent available (and top 3 in this draft) is never a bad thing. Yes, our roster has holes but I'll give Petrie a month or so to see what he does before I judge this decision any further. If we enter the season with this roster as it stands, then Petrie and the Maloofs need to go. Seriously.
 
Unfortunately yes. FO needs to figure out something.
IT did great as a starter, and his defense was stellar for a man his size (was among league leaders in opp fg%). My only worries is when he has to guard SGs in a switch. Better than the alternative (Evans playing PG)
 
But don't you kind of have to admit that there is a tipping point between too much talent for it to work and not enough roles filled to compliment it appropriately? Talent drop is good when you are desperate for it but are the Kings desperate for more talent?
That's what I'm not understanding. How is drafting the best rebounder in the draft, a freak athletically (measured the same as Blake Griffin), a fantastic motor, a great man defender in the post, and the big with the most polished offensive game not a good fit?

T-Rob's ceiling is an Amare Stoudemire who plays defensive, rebounds, and works hard all the time. You're going to pass on that for some average big like Dally cause he can block shots?
 
Yeah, nudge me when my pessimism isn't warranted. I've been around here a LONG time. Long enough that there was a time when I often got accused of being a homer and not realizes how bad we had it being stuck with bums like Webber and Adelman. You will find my "ism" of the moment has generally tracked nicely with the fortunes of the team.
Who would you have picked, and please don't say Drummond.
 

Bricklayer

Don't Make Me Use The Bat
Yup. I don't have issues with him guarding his man. He's an extremely talented player. What's important with the pick though is for Petrie to now get guys to cut off perimeter penetration, as I don't think either he or Cuz are or will be great help defenders. He's now one of our top 3-4 players and part of our core. You build around your core. Reke/TRob/Cuz need defenders at the PG and SF. If we do that and get a defensive 3rd big I don't have any problems for the time being.

Really, the pressure is on Petrie to round out the roster defensively around the new Reke/TRob/Cuz core.
The difficulty here is that you only have so many minutes/so much money to do it. People never think about that, but its the whole key to building a team. On several occasions in the past Petrie has seemed to acquire a "shotblocker"on the cheap...and then park him on the bench behind 3-4 other guys who are going to get more minutes. Which means you have no shotblocer at all and its all for show.

I said before the draft that if you're building a reasonable team, that you take TRob, there proably no longer is room fro JT. And I happen to like JT as a third big. But not when that third big has to be your rim protector. Just having a rim protector on the roster buried down behind Cousins, TRob, JT etc. doesn't help you in the least. He can't block a shot from the bench. You need that guy to get 20-25min+. With TRob in town, those 20-25min would be Jason's.
 

Glenn

Hall of Famer
Drafting the best talent available (and top 3 in this draft) is never a bad thing. Yes, our roster has holes but I'll give Petrie a month or so to see what he does before I judge this decision any further. If we enter the season with this roster as it stands, then Petrie and the Maloofs need to go. Seriously.
We all know that. :) Yes, the cluster group of guards and SFs needs to be restructured and we have a major trade piece in Marcus. I think we absolutely need to move MT and that is not meant as a knock on MT. A trade means we have the correct amount of guards and he and another piece could get us a damn fine SF.
 
Looks like a lot of teams opted for fits rather than BPA.
And whether it works out for the Kings or not, they made the right decision IMO. History has shown time and time again that drafting for need rather than BPA is rarely the right thing to do. The ultimate example being Portland passing on MJ because they already had Clyde the Glyde and needed a big man.

ALWAYS take BPA then sort it out later.
 
The difficulty here is that you only have so many minutes/so much money to do it. People never think about that, but its the whole key to building a team. On several occasions in the past Petrie has seemed to acquire a "shotblocker"on the cheap...and then park him on the bench behind 3-4 other guys who are going to get more minutes. Which means you have no shotblocer at all and its all for show.

I said before the draft that if you're building a reasonable team, that you take TRob, there proably no longer is room fro JT. And I happen to like JT as a third big. But not when that third big has to be your rim protector. Just having a rim protector on the roster buried down behind Cousins, TRob, JT etc. doesn't help you in the least. He can't block a shot from the bench. You need that guy to get 20-25min+. With TRob in town, those 20-25min would be Jason's.
Agree.