Amick – Sacramento Kings To Pass On Drummond, Iffy On Kidd-Gilchrist And Barnes?
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We give up the 5th pick... We give up the 10th pick (Jimmer) in one of the weakest drafts in recent memory, Salmons who is a major pain on our salary cap, and MT who does not have a place to play unless he's willing to come off the bench.
We get a good PG, and a good PF. On a team which was over .500.. Those two players were most of the reason that team was .500+ this year by the way. Those two players make us a .500 team the first year imo..
A 5th pick this year and keeping those three players wont.
We get a good PG, and a good PF. On a team which was over .500.. Those two players were most of the reason that team was .500+ this year by the way. Those two players make us a .500 team the first year imo..
A 5th pick this year and keeping those three players wont.
As I have previously said, I like Henson as the type of player and on paper he would be a perfect fit next to Cousins. A lengthy, athletic role player who can block shots, rebound the ball, play D and has enough offence to keep the defences honest.
My main concerns with his are:
1. Lack of bulk - his frame is such that he will never be able to really beef up. He will always be considered slander
2. He has a high centre of gravity - He has VERY long and skinny legs which generally means that people with such characteristics are generally un-coordinated and also leads to not being able to hold his position which limits his one on one defensive ability at the next level.
However, if we do get pick 12 and Lowry, then I would be open to picking Henson with pick 12 if he is still there. He is definitely the right type of player we need regardless of other question marks
EDIT: Provided that Petrie TRULY has full control of who we draft (ie not getting Maloofed) then I am happy with who ever he picks. He has the ability to pick good to great players and get the value for money with his picks so if it is Henson, I am good with that.
On Tyreke, there is no doubt that a team out there will offer him a max which Maloofs will NOT match. However, my hope in all this is that by the time Tyreke becomes RFA, we will have a new ownership group willing to spend money and build a contender. Its a roll of the dice I am willing to take.
My main concerns with his are:
1. Lack of bulk - his frame is such that he will never be able to really beef up. He will always be considered slander
2. He has a high centre of gravity - He has VERY long and skinny legs which generally means that people with such characteristics are generally un-coordinated and also leads to not being able to hold his position which limits his one on one defensive ability at the next level.
However, if we do get pick 12 and Lowry, then I would be open to picking Henson with pick 12 if he is still there. He is definitely the right type of player we need regardless of other question marks
EDIT: Provided that Petrie TRULY has full control of who we draft (ie not getting Maloofed) then I am happy with who ever he picks. He has the ability to pick good to great players and get the value for money with his picks so if it is Henson, I am good with that.
On Tyreke, there is no doubt that a team out there will offer him a max which Maloofs will NOT match. However, my hope in all this is that by the time Tyreke becomes RFA, we will have a new ownership group willing to spend money and build a contender. Its a roll of the dice I am willing to take.
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Check Scola's contract. This IMO is one of the worst thing we could do. Scola - Cousins could be good on offense, but they would be a disaster on D. Then, we are stuck with an aging PF with a horrible contract, and we also want to add last year's 10th pick and Thornton, who is a clutch player on a reasonable contract, and who also seems to like Sacramento.
The only deal I'd do with Houston is this:
Lowry + #12 + #16 or 18 for #5 + Hayes, and I'd do it just if MKG is gone.
The only deal I'd do with Houston is this:
Lowry + #12 + #16 or 18 for #5 + Hayes, and I'd do it just if MKG is gone.
We don't really know what because Detroit could quite easily draft Leonard at 9 or Drummond if he falls that far.
That is just way over the top. You will struggle to get 12 and one of their other teen picks for Hayes and 5. No way they offer that. Its really in in our favour and removed any flexibility Houston has in getting another top 10 pick which is obviously their target (2 top 10 picks).
That is just way over the top. You will struggle to get 12 and one of their other teen picks for Hayes and 5. No way they offer that. Its really in in our favour and removed any flexibility Houston has in getting another top 10 pick which is obviously their target (2 top 10 picks).
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Personally I don't think that 2 mid-round picks and Lowry are too much for the #5. Lowry is a good player, but he is not a superstar. Then, they are the one desperately wanting to move in the top 5. They are the seller, we are the buyer, so we are in a strong position right here and we can make the price. Do they think it's too much? Ok, we'll keep the 5th. Good luck trying to get Howard with the #12 and #18.
Just read this today. Kareem was 7'2" and listed at 225 pounds yet made 7 All Defensive teams. My admiration just took an unexpected leap upward and I was starting at a high place quite obviously/ Henson is not Kareem as Kareem was all muscle and a few more inches probably didn't hurt. People were probably afraid to try to back him down for fear they'd get slashed by his elbows. 
Reportedly 11 teams have expressed interest in Tyreke. Just an ESPN rumor as I know nothing more.
Reportedly 11 teams have expressed interest in Tyreke. Just an ESPN rumor as I know nothing more.
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Lowry might not be a superstar but he is a borderline all-star and you would do well if you actually pick a player of that level with pick 5. Its a bit of a crap shoot to be honest. Lowry is very under rated around these parts. He is a two way player who would make us better instantly and still has a lot of good years ahead of him.
Agree. But in one of our great season, we once paired Vlade and Brad with very nice results. Scola may not block shots at an elite level but he's one of the best bigs that takes charges, flops well, and pass. Not to mention we won't be running out of offensive options down low when with this pair. Scola's game will last with age because he rely on his IQ and not his knees.
FWIW, we are "hearing" way more from inside sources this year compared to the past few years. And every time it is for a different player.
My guess is that we are trying to drive up the price for a trade. Actually putting a lot of misinformation out there so that no team feels safe that the player they want will make it past us. Because quite frankly we rarely get this much supposed chatter from the front office. Guys like Ford have always pretended to know someone. But the Amick's and Jonses' are reporting different players and seem pretty flummoxed.
And this makes sense if you just look at Houston as an example. Say they really do want Drummond, well Ford's latest mock says we are prepared to take him. This is just what you would want the Rox to believe. The rumor is that Morey is exploring trades with the Blazers and Warriors. If he thinks the Kings will pass on Drummond, then he can always go to the next couple of teams and offer less to move up fewer spots. However, if he is seriously worried Petrie might take Drummond, then he has to pay an additional premium to secure the 5th pick.
I could be way off, but that's my read.
Barnes can't get his own shot, isn't much of an athlete, disappears in games, and can't play D. Other than that he's pretty good. It was interesting that yesterday Grant played a couple of interviews of guys who have seen Barnes play a lot (one was the announcer for NC) and they didn't think very highly of him. One thought he would be a flat out bust. My read is that the Kings just don't think the ceiling of Barnes is very high. Barnes is a guy who people seem to disagree on quite a bit.
Bottomline it wouldn't matter much anyway. If Kareem came along today he would just end up working out more and he wouldn't be 225. Be closer to 245-250 maybe. I am just old enough to remember the laughably old school notion that you should not work out as a basketball player because it would make you stiff and hurt your shot. They actually actively avoided it at one time.
Bottomline it wouldn't matter much anyway. If Kareem came along today he would just end up working out more and he wouldn't be 225. Be closer to 245-250 maybe. I am just old enough to remember the laughably old school notion that you should not work out as a basketball player because it would make you stiff and hurt your shot. They actually actively avoided it at one time.
I am just old enough to remember the laughably old school notion that you should not work out as a basketball player because it would make you stiff and hurt your shot. They actually actively avoided it at one time.
Best guess: Kings keep the pick; don't pick MKG (he's probably not available and maybe they don't like the fact he's a so-so shooter; don't trade down; and select Lillard, Henson, or Mr. X (not Barnes or Drummond). They don't trade down because they really don't want more than one new young guy on this team; that's going in the exact opposite direction they want to go in. They probably have visions of three Donte Greene's dancing in their head. They don't make a trade for a veteran because nobody is paying up with a good veteran (somebody better than Salmons) for this #5 pick. If they do get a quality veteran they will have to package the #5, probably with Thornton, maybe with Tyreke.
Personally, I'd like to see MKG in a Kings uni. He's mature beyond his years (that's something fairly rare for a Kings player), he's got an incredible motor, and a never say die attitude. The Kings need more of that.
Personally, I'd like to see MKG in a Kings uni. He's mature beyond his years (that's something fairly rare for a Kings player), he's got an incredible motor, and a never say die attitude. The Kings need more of that.