It's early, but anybody have a draft wish list yet?
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I agree on Jones. Of course it would depend on who else is available, but I've always liked Jones. He can play two positions, SF & PF. Very good defender who will block his share of shots. He has an NBA body, and plays with intensity. He tends to drift off every once in a while when he's not involved in a play, but he's really improved in that area. By drift off, I mean become a spectator instead of a participant. I think he's definitely top ten talent.
Absolutely perfect description of Wroten. I think he's a little better athlete than Tyreke, but his game is almost identical. They're even around the same size. And to make the match even more perfect, Wroten has no outside shot either. I agree, we won't take Taylor as high as were picking, but if we did, I wouldn't be upset. I want no part of Perry Jones.
Would anyone here trade IT or Jimmer for another first round pick this draft? And who would you take?
I think there's too much potential between IT and Jimmer to be sharing minutes as back-ups. Yes, IT in my opinion is purely a back-up PG. So I'd rather trade one of them with one of our overpriced bench at draft day.
My interest would be on any team that picks Royce White coz we definitely need another big who will score when Cousin sits and Ezeli coz he's big and love's defense. Thoughts?
I think there's too much potential between IT and Jimmer to be sharing minutes as back-ups. Yes, IT in my opinion is purely a back-up PG. So I'd rather trade one of them with one of our overpriced bench at draft day.
My interest would be on any team that picks Royce White coz we definitely need another big who will score when Cousin sits and Ezeli coz he's big and love's defense. Thoughts?
Jeremy Lamb to me is also a guy people are absolutely nuts if he's not atleast in the top 10, and personally i'd have him closer to top 5.
He got elite measurements at the SG position - he's a great shooter and shown the ability to do so with or without the ball - mainly without the ball which is a skill he does extremely well and is one of the surefire things to translate in the next level.
He has very good handle and improved much on that(another very positive note for a young man, actually addresses what he needs to work on in the summer and goes on to do it) - can create his own shot in many ways and creates elite separation from his defender using every inch of his length and athletic ability to get clean shots with his crossovers, step backs etc.
The knock on him is just that he doesn't really attack the rim, and that he shy away from the game - Well, I saw this kid in the U-19 world championship, and let me tell you this - this kid is a cold blooded killer. he took every big shot, demanded the ball, was THE MAN, did everything to get his team to win and carried them on his back.
About the attacking the rim thing - he will need to bulk up a little more - but again he's an elite prospect from size/length/athletic ability prospective - and he also had to play with some of the worst PGs a scorer can ever play with in collage, something that hurt him alot more then it did Drummond imo.
To me, he's an elite talent. people who picks him 14th like he's projected in many places are absolutely positively nuts and out of their minds.
He got elite measurements at the SG position - he's a great shooter and shown the ability to do so with or without the ball - mainly without the ball which is a skill he does extremely well and is one of the surefire things to translate in the next level.
He has very good handle and improved much on that(another very positive note for a young man, actually addresses what he needs to work on in the summer and goes on to do it) - can create his own shot in many ways and creates elite separation from his defender using every inch of his length and athletic ability to get clean shots with his crossovers, step backs etc.
The knock on him is just that he doesn't really attack the rim, and that he shy away from the game - Well, I saw this kid in the U-19 world championship, and let me tell you this - this kid is a cold blooded killer. he took every big shot, demanded the ball, was THE MAN, did everything to get his team to win and carried them on his back.
About the attacking the rim thing - he will need to bulk up a little more - but again he's an elite prospect from size/length/athletic ability prospective - and he also had to play with some of the worst PGs a scorer can ever play with in collage, something that hurt him alot more then it did Drummond imo.
To me, he's an elite talent. people who picks him 14th like he's projected in many places are absolutely positively nuts and out of their minds.
You wouldn't give up Tyreke for a guard in this draft. You'd trade him for a two-way player of value at the 3 or the 4. Then replace him at the 2 with a guard in this draft, one that could shoot outside and defend. Then you have a synergistic team, not a mismash of incoherent parts. But, like you say, it all depends on who that player is who we would get in return for Tyreke.
Lamb's main problem is lack of strength. That's why you rarely see him in paint. His shooting abilities are severely underrated though. LAmb shot 60% on 2-point attempts. It's not that rare feat by itself until you realise he doesn't get many at the rim. He's excellent at creating separation and shooting over defenders with his length (he has 7'4" wingspan). Basically Lamb is Durant of SGs. He will score a lot. But he needs to get a lot stronger to be a much better rebounder and defender. Lamb is probably training at some pre-draft academy so he's getting professional physical training and by June we should have a general idea how much stronger will he eventually be.
I agree with Gilles on this one. Lamb, the Doron lamb, and not the Jeremy Lamb, although they both play the same position, is highly underrated. He's a very good spot up shooter, and downright deadly from midrange. And as stated, he doesn't go to the rack much. He handles the ball well, and usually filled in for Teague at the PG spot when Teague went to the bench. I'am not, by any means implying that Doron can play PG in the NBA, but I'am saying he's a pretty good ballhandler and passer, who can bring the ball up the court on occasion and take some of the pressure off the PG. He's a team guy that, at least in college, just let the game come to him and seldom demanded the ball. In many games he was sort of a quiet assassin.
Some team at the bottom of the first round, like the Lakers, or the Spurs will end up with him, and in a few years we'll be wondering why he wasn't taken higher.
Some team at the bottom of the first round, like the Lakers, or the Spurs will end up with him, and in a few years we'll be wondering why he wasn't taken higher.
Think he ment Jeremy Lamb on the last post - but anyways I agree on both accounts as I stated in the last few pages.
Doron and Jeremy Lamb are highly underrated in their respected projections imo - Doron is one of the safest bets in this draft and for sure a bubble lottary to late teens pick - and Jeremy imo is a top 5 talent and should not go any lower then top 10.
Doron Lamb like I said I think is a Jason Terry ceiling kind of player but with a very high floor - and Jeremy Lamb in my honest opinion - is one of the few people in this draft who I can say has superstar potential.
Jeremy stock was hurt cause of the tournament and cause of his PGs - His combination of elite length(7'4 as mentioned, ridiculous on all accounts) - elite athletic ability, and elite shooting ability mainly from an off the ball position but also from off the dribble creating to himself - is just very rare.
Doron and Jeremy Lamb are highly underrated in their respected projections imo - Doron is one of the safest bets in this draft and for sure a bubble lottary to late teens pick - and Jeremy imo is a top 5 talent and should not go any lower then top 10.
Doron Lamb like I said I think is a Jason Terry ceiling kind of player but with a very high floor - and Jeremy Lamb in my honest opinion - is one of the few people in this draft who I can say has superstar potential.
Jeremy stock was hurt cause of the tournament and cause of his PGs - His combination of elite length(7'4 as mentioned, ridiculous on all accounts) - elite athletic ability, and elite shooting ability mainly from an off the ball position but also from off the dribble creating to himself - is just very rare.
Two years ago at the skills academy, Jones measured out at 6'9" in shoes with a 7'2" wingspan. To the best of my knowledge, those measurements usually stand up, and if they're wrong, its usually because the player has grown a little since being measured. I have little doubt that Jones is at least 6'9" in shoes. I also have little doubt that he can play PF in the NBA. His offense needs tweaking, but defensively he can contribute right away. I think people are going to be surprised by his athletic markers coming out of the combine.
J. Lamb is one of my favorite players, and the main reason I watched UCONN this year. It started out as the Drummond watch, but that ended quickly. I've been pretty hard on Drummond, and to be fair, I think he can play in the NBA on the defensive side of the ball once he gets up to speed. How long that will take is anyone's guess. Not sure about his BBIQ. The guy is loaded with talent, and on a scale of 1 to 10, if Drummond is a 10, Thabeet is a 1 talent wise. Maybe that puts it in prespective..
I have Lamb ahead of Barnes on my mock. I don't have a problem drafting him, but if we do, someone has to go.
I have Lamb ahead of Barnes on my mock. I don't have a problem drafting him, but if we do, someone has to go.
Vlade, I really like Barton. So this has nothing to do with my liking or disliking him. It has to do with having enough players that are 6'6" SG's on the team. I can stomach taking a Beal or a Lamb with our first pick if that player is the BPA. But I just can see us taking another SG in the second round. This team needs size and athleticism. I would love someone like Festus Ezeli in the second round. Unfortunately once he gets to team workouts, I think he'll slide into the bottom of the first round. But someone like Withey should be there when we pick, and I'd love to have him. And as I said, none of this has to do with how I feel about Barton.
My dream was to get either Davis or MGK. The chances are severely diminished now, but still possible. Tell you what, if we get lucky and still get one of those guys, I'll choose anyone you want in the second round.
My dream was to get either Davis or MGK. The chances are severely diminished now, but still possible. Tell you what, if we get lucky and still get one of those guys, I'll choose anyone you want in the second round.
Before college season started everybody talked how great this draft would be. Greatness talks cooled off as season went along but it's clear that this will be a very deep draft with players who stayed for another year because of lockout or will be screwed by new NCAA regulations. So saying guys who have concerns will move up is premature. Ezeli is constantly injured and Barton is not skilled enough for SG/not big or strong enough for SF. So Kings will probably get someone decent even in early second round. I feel #30s this year are worth #20s in recent years. Just have to find your diamond in rough and more importantly with this team find playing time to develop him.