[Grades] Grades v. Blazers 04/15/12

Kings Player of the Game

  • Tyreke Evans

    Votes: 1 3.3%
  • DeMarcus Cousins

    Votes: 11 36.7%
  • Marcus Thornton

    Votes: 10 33.3%
  • Isaiah Thomas

    Votes: 5 16.7%
  • Other

    Votes: 3 10.0%

  • Total voters
    30
  • Poll closed .

Bricklayer

Don't Make Me Use The Bat
#1

Okay, a pretty feel good win over a depleted Blzers team (who this season went from a Camby/Aldrdige/Wallace frontline to Old Pryz/Hickson/Batum) to snap our loss streak at 7 (kinda disappointing really as we were perfectly set up for an epic showdown in Charlotte next week by which time we would have been on the 10 game losing streak, and they would have been on the 18 game win streak).

Could feel in this game the unbalance in our lineup as we struggled all night to keep all of our main guns involved, with this guy or that constantly getting frozen out because not enough shots to go around. But notably int he end first Reke, then Cuz, and finally MT all combined for the big hoops/FTs to win it for us as all 3 guys notched 20pts, and that has to help everyone feel pretty good about things in the lockerrom later.

Now, before I get to the grades I feel like I have to go take a shower after listening to Jerry Reynolds have on air sex with IT for the past 2 hours, but when I get back I'll try to get these up tonight this time.

Boxscore

Evans ( B ) -- hit his first layup, but you could see him race to force it up because he was having trouble geting the ball early. Got him going though, and he found ways to get extra attempts as he went inside for some good offenisve rebounds and follows -- rare for Reke as he is primarily a defensive rebounder, but tonight again found himself on the backline of our zone having to check out guys like Hickson and Thabeet, and just no way. Got on the hoop repeatedly in the early 2nd with off the ball movement, and was passing pretty well, although guys were rarely knocking the shots down, and he did commit the IT error of actually passing it to Hayes expecting him to score on several occasions. Started the thrid notching a steal in similar fashion to a couple of games ago, slapping the ball to IT, then racing out to get the finsih when It gave it back. Had some nice moves in the late 3rd and early 4th but kept on missing the layups, throw in a couple of missed jumpers and it turned what could have been a big game into a 9-21 night. Had a say at the end when he raced out on the break and got tackled by the Blazers defense at the 40 second mark, and tied the game with 2 FTs. Overall looked pretty good, too small inside, but solid defense on Batum, made a lot more passes than the assists indicate, but not creating high quality looks, and found ways to be involved on offense, with 4 or 5 missed finishes being the downside. Should note btw a shift in my grading scale for Reke of late, as 20-3-3 would formerly have been C+/B- type work, depending on details. But I like to grade guys on a scale of what I think its legitimately possible given role/talent and usage, and since the AllStar break that has been Reke averaging 15-4-4, so this was pretty good considering.

Thompson ( C ) -- Hickson kicked our butt early, and while he eventually calmed down, he still was much better than Jason who appears to have completely pissed away all that momentum he had a month ago as he heads into free agency. We made a copel of attempts to post him up, but he got nowhere, and generally the guards and forwards were putting up too many shots for him to get many roleplayer off the ball movement type attempts. Best play of the night may have been a good pass to Cuz for the big dunk late in the 3rd. If I thought Jason actually hurt us tonight I would go lower with this, but he was just more irrelevant, and all our roleplayers were in a tough spot with all 4 of our main gunners taking 18+ shots. This perhaps a warning sign BTW for our search for a shotblocking PF this summer -- if we retain this same crazy coach and same crazy lineup, if all our main guys are going there are simply no shots for anybody else. Normal shots in an NBA game is about 80-85. Our top 4 guys tonight took 75 combined.

Cousins ( A- ) -- good post move to start, but then just one of those loose offensive fouls trying to drive in all the way from the 3pt line. Not quite sure what to do with Thabeet the first time he saw him and went to the bench. After returning in the mid 2nd, ignored by his guards and forwards and did not evern get a touch for 4 to 5 mintues straight Not as hot. A touch. Was pissed too as he was season yelling at guys during a timeout. Season may be ending just at the right time for us, as you can see Cuz's frustration beginning to boil here late in the year. Most of his boards were in the first quarter, and maybe some of that was because after that the Blazers were bombing and most of the rebounds were long. Started the 3rd after coach presumably talked to the team at halftime, and we slowed it down, gave him back to back post moves and he beat Pryz for back to back hoops. Got him off and runing to a big third quarter, which was capped by a big two handed gorilla dunk late in the quarter. And once he started getting the touches he got into a rhythm efficiently beating the Blazers up in there, the body language picked up, and with it energy and focus. Took a charge, got fired up. His reward? He got benched for the first 8 miutes of the 4th quarter. That's Coach Smart for you -- nothing is so obvious he won't miss it, and obviously he did not want to mess up the rhthym of the awesome JT/Hayes and Donte/Hayes frontlines we had out there for a guy who only shot 11-18 on the night. We finally reinserted him at the 3:59 mark for Donte, and he promptly scored over Pryz with a hook. And drove baseline and beat Pryz for what looked like it was going to be the the game winner at the 11 second mark, until Cisco's mistake on defense necesssitated MT re-bailing us out. Going A- here considering the recent up and down play. The rebounding was not up to snuff, but he was very efficient and dominated on offense, when his coach deigned to play him or our guys felt like passsing it to him, and this was against two bigger players who's sole purpose for being out on a basketball court was to stop him.

Thornton ( B ) -- had an up and down game largely centered around whether it was his turn to be the designated guy not getting his shots in our overstuffed lineup, as of course Marcus Thornton not touching the ball largely means Marcus Thornton not contributing. In fact the big factor holding this grade back is if you scan on down to Marcus's counterpart tonight and check out HIS boxscore. 8-10 from 3ptland and 31 pts?? Are you kidding me? Wasn't all Marcus's fault, as we flipped in and out of a zone, and Cisco was the guy who allowed Matthews to hit the near backbreaker at the end, not Marcus. Nonetheless, for some reason I continue to not understand, Marcus keeps leaving his guy on the perimeter and always seems to be hustling back in the frame just as the uncontested shot goes up. And if he does contest, he's too short to make much of a difference. Now back on Marcus's side of the floor...was missing his early shots both inside and out -- the inside largely because he kept getting his shots blocked. Sort of scruffed his way to 6-8pts in the first 14 minutes, but it never was efficient or in rhythm. Then because our rotations are ridiculous, never returned for the rest of the half, sitting out nearly the entire second quarter (to put a cherry on top of the rotatinal capriciousness, he then never left the game for the entire second half). A forgotten man in the early third offensively, and like Cuz in the late 2nd just not even getting touches, let alone shots. Finally got a three late in the 3rd as IT quit shooting, and that freed up extra shots for Marcus. Was determined to take the last shot of the 3rd, although his teammates looked dubious and unsure of what he watned to do. But after Cuz finally came up and gave him a little pick he stepped into a three to tie the game for the first time in a long while. Contributed a few more hoops in the 4th as we rode our three guards to the complete exclusion of the bench, and in the end, we drew up the play for him and he hit the little midrange game winner for us at the 4 second mark.

Thomas ( B ) -- got off to a shaky start forcing his early takes and Felton was getting around him surprisingly easy. But out of a timeout in the mid first we drew up a play for him to drive inside, and Reke found him for a corner three as he got going more by moving off the ball than with it. Got cheated of at least 1 and maybe 2 hoops in his first stint, although on the first one a foul was called so we got the points anyway. Had consistent defensive issues tonight and not sure why. Kept losing Felton off ball as he set up for threes, and both Felton and even Johnny Flynn were getting by him to their spots. Proved again that the third quarter is his attack quarter as he came out very aggressive and got off to a quick start hitting a two, a three, then racing out on the break and taking a pass form Cuz for the layup as he just outran everybody. But you could see the problem again for our linuep -- and there simply is no solution for this other than for it to not BE our lineup --as he started to get aggressive and look for his own shot, we started to lose Reke, and entirly lost Marcus, who wasn't even getting touches, let alone shots. Just not room for everybody to do their thing, because everybody's thing is shooting/scoring. You could feel the difference toward the end of the quarter when he shifted back toward being more of a passer, and all of a sudden we surged as everybody else got reinvolved. Some high degree of difficulty shots in the early 4th are what tanked his shooting numbers on the night, and the Blazers guys were just shooting right over him the other way. Bad bad turnover at the one minute mark with us down two, and IT threw a blind pass to MT hoping Matthews did not turn into time to see it. He did.

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Bench

Fredette ( B- ) -- like most of our bench, only got first half minutes. Used an upfake to free himself for his first long jumper, something he has been doing more of lately. Defense was the same issue it normally is, so we sunk into a zone ot protect him. Added a score on the break after Marcus found him, and a three on kick from TWill. Largely a very small off the ball SG at this point. Grade is a bit of a reach because minutes were short enough there wasn't time to see much overall game.

Hayes ( B ) -- nice over the shoulder assist to Thornton in the early going, and when he came back late al of a sudden we were running a lot of the offense through him, and he responded with a number of good passes. Struggled to handle Hickson's vertical game, but somewhere in there started to board, which we again needed as our big slide has coincided with the end of JTs hot run as a second rebounder for us. Using him to initiate the offense late in the 4th, and despite his normal offensive impotence otherwise he ended up scoring the go ahead bucket at the 3:00 mark when they took away all his passing angles but forgot to stay between thim and the hoop. This grades are feeling a little wonky with too many high grades for beating a bad team on our home floor, but then again maybe we are just that bad (the x factor is of course again our defense, where our guards especially got torched and we let a team wiht Wes Matthews as its best scorer shoot 53% against us).
 
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Bricklayer

Don't Make Me Use The Bat
#2
Outlaw ( B ) -- hit back to back threes late in the half, nice steal knocking down an intended pass as well. Drew Cousins ire on one of those shots, as it was apparently a selfish take when he was suppsoed to dump it back in to the big man and did not. Its not actually a compliment to your team when you hand out this many good grades for a 1pt win at home btw.

Wiliams ( You Guess ) -- Settled in and began briefly to take over as our best player late in the first half...and this with Isaiah and Cousins both on the court. Rebounds, assists, scoring inside and out -- and inside his ability to float in the air let's him have delicate touch on his layups. Lost all of his 2nd half minutes because we had too many guys going well and too many mouths to feed for minutes and shots. Finally back in the game in the final 40 seconds for defenseive reasons, and went ahead and immediately stole the ball (although he actually committed the foul) to give us a chance to go up in atie game with 26 seconds left.

Garcia ( INC ) -- tied up a Blazer for a jumpball in his first half stint. Also missed a wide open corner jumper. We had a terrible turnover at the end of the half as going for the last shot of the half Cisco inbounded it to Outlaw, and Outlaw tried to throw it right back to him, but Cisco was moving to the corner -- more on Outlaw than Cisco most likely though. Was in very briefly in the final minute of the game as he and Twill replaced IT and Hayes for defensive purposes, and then alost ended up being the game's goat s he was beat by Matthews for the corner three by the Blzers at the 01 seond mark jsut after it looked like Cousins had win it. Cisco thought he was going to drive, and gave too much ground. I mean, come on -- the guy only shot 8-10 form 3pt land on thengiht, you just absolutely cannot give up that show.

Greene ( INC ) -- first in the game in the early 4th and ended up playing a long stretch of the period as apparently Demarcus was not dominant enough for Smart's tastes. Donte was aggressive as a rebounder, although a couple of them were relatively easy defensive rebounds off missed FTs, but did little else.
 
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#3
Okay, a pretty feel good win over a depleted Blzers team (who this season went from a Camby/Aldrdige/Walalce frontline to Old Pryz/Hickson/Batum) to snap our loss streak at 7 (kinda disappointing really as we were perfectly set up for an epic showdown in Charlotte next week by which time we would have been on the 10 game losing streka, and they would have been on the 18 game win streak).

Could feel in this game the unbalance in our lineup as we struggled all night to keep all of our main guns involved, with this guy or that constantly getting frozen out because not enough shots to go around. But notably int he end first Reke, then Cuz, and finally MT all combined for the big hoops/FTs to win it for us as all 3 guys notched 20pts, and that has to help everyone feel pretty good about things in the lockerrom later.

Now, before I get to the grades I feel like I have to go take a shower after listening to Jerry Reynolds have on air sex with IT for the past 2 hours, but when I get back I'll try to get these up tonight this time.

Boxscore

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When you start keeping tabs on missed goaltending calls, you've gone too far.
 
M

Mal

Guest
#4
Thomas has a total of 2 turnovers in the last four games....vs 23 assists. But, keep baggin' He deserves the accolades, even if it draws a little attention away from your boy. Some folk just need to learn to deal with things as they come.
 

VF21

Super Moderator Emeritus
SME
#5
Does Jerry wax poetic about IT way too much? Oh, hell yes. But does it diminish just how well Isaiah played tonight? Nope.

I think some people really need to adjust their IT-meters. He's not the second coming of John Stockton but he's not exactly Quincy Douby, either. Celebrate the win and relish these moments when we get them.
 
#6
Thomas has a total of 2 turnovers in the last four games....vs 23 assists. But, keep baggin' He deserves the accolades, even if it draws a little attention away from your boy. Some folk just need to learn to deal with things as they come.

I dont think he's being criticized in this thread. Its just that the official kings hyperbole is a little much from jerry and grant. It actually detracts from the good things IT does bring
 
#7
IT is short. One thing I have noticed is that at all levels of basketball, some people just HATE short players. Doesn't matter what they do, some people find reasons to hate them and prove to themselves that short people have no right on a basketball court.
 
#8
IT is short. One thing I have noticed is that at all levels of basketball, some people just HATE short players. Doesn't matter what they do, some people find reasons to hate them and prove to themselves that short people have no right on a basketball court.
I think it has more to do with the limitations of being shorter in the nba. IT at 6'3" would be a different player than he is at 5'9". Nothing he can do about it and he can still provide great value at his size. Its just that nature and the way the game is played stacks the odds against shorter guys
 
#9
Voted "ot;her" because each on the list had a good game. They played well. Defense was a problem. But they won and it was my last game at Arco this season. They did well by me.
 
#10
Okay, a pretty feel good win over a depleted Blzers team (who this season went from a Camby/Aldrdige/Walalce frontline to Old Pryz/Hickson/Batum) to snap our loss streak at 7 (kinda disappointing really as we were perfectly set up for an epic showdown in Charlotte next week by which time we would have been on the 10 game losing streka, and they would have been on the 18 game win streak).

Could feel in this game the unbalance in our lineup as we struggled all night to keep all of our main guns involved, with this guy or that constantly getting frozen out because not enough shots to go around. But notably int he end first Reke, then Cuz, and finally MT all combined for the big hoops/FTs to win it for us as all 3 guys notched 20pts, and that has to help everyone feel pretty good about things in the lockerrom later.

Now, before I get to the grades I feel like I have to go take a shower after listening to Jerry Reynolds have on air sex with IT for the past 2 hours, but when I get back I'll try to get these up tonight this time.

Boxscore

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It's not different than how he portraited Evans and how posters here keep portraiting him.
 
#11
You guys should have gone to the game. I enjoyed the play without the benefit of commentary. I don't think IT's play was controversial. I would give Smart a high score for this game. I even saw Petrie smile once. Not bad.
 

Mr. S£im Citrus

Doryphore of KingsFans.com
Staff member
#13
You guys should have gone to the game. I enjoyed the play without the benefit of commentary. I don't think IT's play was controversial. I would give Smart a high score for this game. I even saw Petrie smile once. Not bad.
I would love to have been at the game, but that's a hell of a commute.
 

Tetsujin

The Game Thread Dude
#14
Thomas has a total of 2 turnovers in the last four games....vs 23 assists. But, keep baggin' He deserves the accolades, even if it draws a little attention away from your boy. Some folk just need to learn to deal with things as they come.
Ladies and gentlemen, Grant Napear has a Kingsfans.com account
 
#16
Well, IT is a solid NBA point guard but, no question Irving will be rookie of the year. Still, Grant and Jerry are, let's face it, homers and after seven straight losses there isn't really, a lot to talk about during those losses. I think the F0 is having G and J talk up a ROY night to further push IT into the limelight and for me, I have no problem with that. As far as the game today I almost fell off my chair when Cisco backed off Johnson instead of using our foul to give. Felt good to win one during crunch time.
 

Bricklayer

Don't Make Me Use The Bat
#17
Ladies and gentlemen, Grant Napear has a Kingsfans.com account
Nah, just a simple player fan. Could be a Jimmer fan, a Casspi fan, A Peja or Hedo fan, it never changes. Same schtick.

The irony is that our three best guys brought with them relatively few player fans. Its a phenomenon that always seems to cluster around what should be feel good stories on the next tier, and maybe that's because its defined by the player fans eternally have outsized expectations/demands for their guys out of step with reality. The fans of the star guys are more in step with reality, and hence less annoying.
 
#18
Nah, just a simple player fan. Could be a Jimmer fan, a Casspi fan, A Peja or Hedo fan, it never changes. Same schtick.

The irony is that our three best guys brought with them relatively few player fans.
Maybe it's not irony, but the fact that some people are acting like player fans and just can't see it.
 

rainmaker

Hall of Famer
#21
I'm not even talking about RoY. Just they hyping.
Who was Reke hyped over, while actually the favorite to win ROY? Spencer? JT? Noc? Beno? Omri?

Who's IT hyped over without a chance at winning ROY? Cuz? Reke? MT?

Reke was hands down the best player on the team as a rookie. IT might be the 4th best player on this team, but if you only listened to the hype you'd think he's a 5 time All Star who'll be leading us to homecourt advantage in the playoffs a couple weeks from now.
 
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LWP777

Guest
#22
When you start keeping tabs on missed goaltending calls, you've gone too far.
So true! I'm also sick and tired of Grant saying how the NBA referees should start reviewing goaltending calls. Does he realize that it would be almost impossible to do that? Would they stop play every single time there was a block shot? You can't review plays like that because there is no right time to review it.
 
#25
Does Jerry wax poetic about IT way too much? Oh, hell yes. But does it diminish just how well Isaiah played tonight? Nope.

I think some people really need to adjust their IT-meters. He's not the second coming of John Stockton but he's not exactly Quincy Douby, either. Celebrate the win and relish these moments when we get them.
Like I've been sayin, Isaiah has been reminding me a lot of a young Avery Johnson.
 
#27
I don't get all this hostility.

We picked up a nice player who works his butt off every game and has a nice attitude.... with the 60th pick.

just because you hate the coach i don't know why that has to lead to resentment toward IT. This kid deserves a lot of praise IMO.

obviously the announcers are going to talk him up thats their job.. who cares.

He clearly isn't ROY, but the fact he's even in the conversation, however quiet, is remarkable, hats off to him.
 

Bricklayer

Don't Make Me Use The Bat
#28
Like I've been sayin, Isaiah has been reminding me a lot of a young Avery Johnson.
Not sure I am feeling that comparison. Height aside, you would be hardpressed to find two more different players. Nor I think do you want to doom IT to Avery's fate, bouncing in and out of the league, playing for 6-8 different teams. Avery was called the Little General because he was a high assist pass first PG with a broke jumper with no range. On top of that of course he was small, but not even small athletic like Isaiah. Just small.

IT bears a lot more resemblance to a Booby Jackson than he does an Avery, although he's a more natural passer than Bobby was. But he's a gunner, and a high energy fearless gunner who suddenly has range on his shot and is not afraid to go inside.
 
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#29
Not sure I am feeling that comparison. Height aside, you would be hardpressed to find two more different players. Nor I think do you want to doom IT to Avery's fate, bouncing in and out of the league, playing for 6-8 different teams. Avery was called the Little General because he was a high assist pass first PG with a broke jumper with no range. On top of that of course he was small, but not even small athletic like Isaiah. Just small.

IT bears a lot more resemblance to a Booby Jackson than he does an Avery, although he's a more natural passer than Bobby was. But he's a gunner, and a high energy fearless gunner who suddenly has range on his shot and is not afraid to go inside.
But ........... (like Jackson he is a bench player?).
 
#30
Last night was encouraging about our team. All our folks including our "stars" played well, together, and seemingly not in competition with each other. We haven't seen that ofter enough. I problem I see all too often is Tyreke and Cousins taking time off on the court on whatever schedule they please. I didn't see that last night. Everyone seemed to be 'in the game' for the most part. And they got the reward - a win. That's why I voted "other".