ASW continued: Day 3 of Arena meetings - DEAL REACHED
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I've tried in the Bee's forums, but they never respond when you give them real facts. They just come up with some other nonsense or wait for the next article to make the same moronic posts over and over. Not only that, but whenever an answer to their objections is come up with, they just come out with other objections. It's a no-win situation with real CAVE people. I gave up when they started attacking me personally, when they couldn't win the argument based on research, facts or figures.
The arena project will benefit from the newly passed state legislation allowing a streamlined environmental process for major projects. Los Angeles got their reps to sponsor such a bill to speed up the environmental processes for their proposed football stadium.
Well, our Senator Steinberg from Sacramento decided is it's good for Los Angeles, it should apply to mmajor projects everywhere. He got legislation passed. Yay for our Senator Steinberg! It may the only favor LA as ever done for a North State city.
Well, our Senator Steinberg from Sacramento decided is it's good for Los Angeles, it should apply to mmajor projects everywhere. He got legislation passed. Yay for our Senator Steinberg! It may the only favor LA as ever done for a North State city.
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Nope. He wasn't on the council back then. It was an Asian councilman (I can't think of his name right now), but he retired. D. Fong has voted no right down the line on every arena vote. R. Fong will vote yes.
Edit: The swing vote on the $70 million loan was Councilman Jimmie Yee. Robert Fong replaced him following Yee's retirement. BTW, that loan probably saved the Kings from being sold then.
Edit: The swing vote on the $70 million loan was Councilman Jimmie Yee. Robert Fong replaced him following Yee's retirement. BTW, that loan probably saved the Kings from being sold then.
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Cosigned, I used to go back and forth with them a lot but it's a no win situation. In the end it's better focusing your efforts else where. These people aren't seriously having objections or questions that need to be answered, they just don't want it done no matter what and continually come up with ridiculous BS as not to lose the argument/their position. They're mostly idiots. It's not like wasting time arguing with these morons on the Sac Bee will get it done, things like Mike and the crew going to the city council were what helped us get to this point.
As someone that's had a thing or two to say about Kings arena plans, I'm very happy. This one looked like a real deal. Everybody gave to make this happen. It was a win/win deal, which was the only way it was going to happen.
In 2004, it was about the city getting over on the Maloofs and vice versa.
Q & R tried to pass the buck to the tax payers.
Cal Expo 1 and 2 tried to pass the buck to the state.
In the end, KJ got smart and creative and everybody made it work.
We aren't home, but we are on the downside of the hill.
In 2004, it was about the city getting over on the Maloofs and vice versa.
Q & R tried to pass the buck to the tax payers.
Cal Expo 1 and 2 tried to pass the buck to the state.
In the end, KJ got smart and creative and everybody made it work.
We aren't home, but we are on the downside of the hill.
I doubt it, the developers have already been going through that, right?
It would go, draft EIS or FONSI (in this case it may be a FONSI, since the railyards are desolute), demonstrate compliance with NEPA if no EIS is required, or facilitate the EIS, which may take waaaaaaaaay more than a year. In CA we have CEQA and call impact statements EIRs, which is just elitist.
It would go, draft EIS or FONSI (in this case it may be a FONSI, since the railyards are desolute), demonstrate compliance with NEPA if no EIS is required, or facilitate the EIS, which may take waaaaaaaaay more than a year. In CA we have CEQA and call impact statements EIRs, which is just elitist.
Don't forget that the Sate Legislature recently passed a bill to streamline and shorten the environmental process on big projects. LA wanted this for their new football stadium. Our Senator Steinberg said, if its good for LA, it should be good for any city with big projects, so he got that legislation passed. YAY!
I hearby predict (assuming no unforseen road blocks) that new Sports & Entertainment complex at the railyards in downtown Sacramento will be open (perhaps soft opening) in early/mid 2015 - before that seasons NBA schedule gets underway. Just knowing how things are usually done at excruciating snails pace in California - makes even that soon a minor miracle.
I doubt it, the developers have already been going through that, right?
It would go, draft EIS or FONSI (in this case it may be a FONSI, since the railyards are desolute), demonstrate compliance with NEPA if no EIS is required, or facilitate the EIS, which may take waaaaaaaaay more than a year. In CA we have CEQA and call impact statements EIRs, which is just elitist.
It would go, draft EIS or FONSI (in this case it may be a FONSI, since the railyards are desolute), demonstrate compliance with NEPA if no EIS is required, or facilitate the EIS, which may take waaaaaaaaay more than a year. In CA we have CEQA and call impact statements EIRs, which is just elitist.
The Mayor's press conference?
There is one about to start here: http://sacramento.cbslocal.com/watch-live-sd/
There is one about to start here: http://sacramento.cbslocal.com/watch-live-sd/
A lot of thanking, applause etc...
But this is important piece of info!:
David Bienick @kcrabienick
Council member Steve Cohn says this looks like a good deal for city. Sounds like a yes vote on #arena.
Rob McAllister @Rob_McAllister
Cohn: I haven't always been in favor of public financing on an arena, but I feel we are really going to get this done"
A definite vote!
But this is important piece of info!:
David Bienick @kcrabienick
Council member Steve Cohn says this looks like a good deal for city. Sounds like a yes vote on #arena.
Rob McAllister @Rob_McAllister
Cohn: I haven't always been in favor of public financing on an arena, but I feel we are really going to get this done"
A definite vote!
The arena project will benefit from the newly passed state legislation allowing a streamlined environmental process for major projects. Los Angeles got their reps to sponsor such a bill to speed up the environmental processes for their proposed football stadium.
Well, our Senator Steinberg from Sacramento decided is it's good for Los Angeles, it should apply to mmajor projects everywhere. He got legislation passed. Yay for our Senator Steinberg! It may the only favor LA as ever done for a North State city.
Well, our Senator Steinberg from Sacramento decided is it's good for Los Angeles, it should apply to mmajor projects everywhere. He got legislation passed. Yay for our Senator Steinberg! It may the only favor LA as ever done for a North State city.
I don't think it's too much. If they chip in too much, Milwaukee, Detroit and any other city looking for a new arena is going to ask for the same amount. If anything, I was thinking that they were going to loan the upfront money to the Maloofs and then get paid back over time. Is that no longer the case and it's just a gift pitch in?
I'm guessing that the sale of the land is supposed to cover the full $75 million that the Maloofs will contribute up front since they're so broke. If it doesn't cover the whole thing then I have to imagine that the league will cover the remainder and expect to be paid back.
I'm guessing that the sale of the land is supposed to cover the full $75 million that the Maloofs will contribute up front since they're so broke. If it doesn't cover the whole thing then I have to imagine that the league will cover the remainder and expect to be paid back.
The tracks are being moved now. I can't be sure, but I think they are looking at summer to be finished.
Here's a recent update.. http://www.trainorders.com/discussion/read.php?4,2684440
Here's a recent update.. http://www.trainorders.com/discussion/read.php?4,2684440
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